if you search the archives you will see there are alot of people who have tried these methods before but no longer post here anymore god only knows why
I know it's hard to have hope at times, but please don't think there isn't any. We are all going through the same thing, we are in this together! If I seen any of you in person, I would give you a hug & we could cry together! I also promise one day if I become rich, I will do anything I can to help any scar sufferers. I also want to add that I had subcision done back in June and I cried "because I didn't see any improvement." However, sometimes it becomes hard for us to recognize when we have had improvement.
Hey just wanted to say that you might want to check out realself, there are lots of reviews on fat transfers.
Hey michi, yeah I checked realself, but I am weary of that website because the doctors & people on there are so negative. Not only that, it's websites like that where people go when things go wrong. I know it can be helpful for finding a doctor, but I just don't like all of the negativity. A lot of people have successful scar revision, but they never join websites or report back because it worked. So while I find acne.org beneficial to many, it can be depressing too. I consider it a support, venting group. Sorry to ramble. I wish others came back on here to give us more information about their success, but at the same time I understand that this website reminds them of dark times.
I will be stalking this thread. I've called up several doctors about fat transfer. Some claim that it isn't permanent and that the fat gets reabsorbed within a couple of years, some claim at least 50% remain because some of the cells die off(?) during transfer and some survive, I read on one site the doctor noting that fat contains stem cells and that results are permanent.
The super expensive doctor in my city who claims to offer permanent results had a very negative review in the last few months...the woman claimed he lied and the results only lasted 6 months.
Also, some people may not come back on this board if their scars are gone or mostly non-existent!
I think Datura got the grafting done in California...I tried sending her a message asking who the doctor was who performed the grafting and she won't respond.
Yeah, from what I hear if it's done correctly it is permanent. There are stem cells in fat, and as long as they continue to live and get a good blood supply, not all of them will die. I know it's something you have to have done more than once, but come on we should be used to that. People tend to get it done more than once, because they don't want it to be over corrected the first time. Also, from my experience reading on the realself website, I have seen some horror stories about how the fat has stayed there forever. While I understand that sucks, but I look on the positive side of it. I think hmm, well it lasted for them. Not only that, I feel that even if it was over corrected, with all the stuff we know on these boards the ability to fix an over correction is there. I think we need to set the bs aside, and realize that many of us on these boards are highly intelligent people. This is a learning experience for us. Here I am rambling again, I will definitely be keeping up with this thread. I hope others do too.
I had fat graft in October 2012 in conjunction with subcision for my rolling scars on my cheeks. Plastic surgeon destroyed fibers, fixing the bottom of the scars in the derma, with a blunt cannula in a reciprocating/fan-shaped/circular motion (not with a Nokor needle in order to prevent injuries of blood vessels...so weird - it sounded like eating of dry conflakes or the like), afterwards he did the fat graft extensively followed by a very aggressive needling (with the dermapen... full-face because I had Boxscars and a couple of ice-pick-scars on my temples and forehead). Downtime was a week: On day 5/6 the uppermost layer of the skin removed, on day 7 I was absolute socially acceptable, maybe with a nice red/brown glow. The idea was that the stem cells would help to heal the injuries produced by the needling as well as the smoothing effect, in addition the fat layer should prevent a re-connection of the retracted scars. It works very well, maybe I got an improvement of around 50 percent (the rolling scars respond best, the ice-picks and the boxscars on my cheeks/temples seemed to have more shallow due to the needling). So I decided to proceed.
In November I had another full-face-needling, in December the whole procedure of October once again. The results are very impressing: The rolling scars on my cheeks are gone (or at least almost...I have had a larger volume lost on my right cheek bone because of acne cyst) and obviously I look younger (I'm 35 now) - as people say I didn't see for a while. But be aware that is a rocky road: I tried to avoid face movements as good as possible (didn't speak for a week, ate only mashed stuff and so on) plus I ate not only very healthy (with a couple of supplements) but opulent right after the derma graft (mashed walnuts with virgin olive oil ) in order to support of the engraftment - that's why I increased in weight...once a friend in the gym asked if I take cortisone (did fitness/bodybuilding for years - before some wise guys is going to write a comment: I have had acne in school and started fitness/bodybuilding afterwards when I was in the army....plus I never took steroids). But now my cheek bones are back thanks of sport, jogging...
In January and February I had ablative fractional laser treatments (full face) for my boxscars, in March subcision for isolate scars on my temples, in April another ablative fractional laser treatment, in June PRP. Now (after the summer break) I'm going to struggle with my perfectionism-problem - it's astonishing if you suffer for years because of the scars and then you get improvement you aim to perfection.
Long story short: fat graft in conjunction with needling removed almost all of my rolling scars plus certainly it improved the boxscars on my cheek area (and improved skin surface/texture although I can't say that fat graft helped in this way, laser in that way...all I can say is, that the multiple approach helped a lot).
First off, before I say anything I want to thank you for posting your experience. I honestly appreciate it, and I'm sure many others do too. I completely understand the concept of a multi approach to the problem we are struggling with. It gives many people an idea for a treatment plan. Can I ask how much it cost you for the subcision/fat transfer/needling? Another question, where did the doctor take the fat from? I have read some take it from the back of the knee, some take it from the stomach, and some take it from behind the ear. Yeah you are so right there, we can never get enough improvement. Sometimes, we don't even realize that we have had improvement. I also understand that it is important to eat healthy and get the right supplements. Honestly though, I think the most important thing to do when you are healing is to be as positive as you can be. I remember being really negative with each treatment. I cleaned the house and moped around, because I looked to crazy to go outside. Are emotions are stronger than we think. I definitely think vitamin C is important though, because it is proven to boost the mood. One should look into mood boosting foods in the recovery process. Also, where is your doctor located? I won't be able to have anymore treatments for awhile, but it doesn't hurt to plan ahead.
****One more thing I want to add to people reading this, I know it can be hard to have a positive mindset. However, don't let your scars "own" you. Know that there will be improvement, know that you WILL get through this! Know that there are treatments out there you haven't tried. Know that even though you might of had some treatments done, they are more beneficial when done together. Know that your life's not over. Don't let this hold you back from doing anything you enjoy, because that makes it worse. In order to become what you want to be, you really do have to see the bright side and feel that you are there. We are our own worst critics. Why do you think we strive for perfection? Know that you are beautiful. Know that this is a learning experience. Know that it's OKAY to cry, it's OKAY to let anger out.****