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In Topic: Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

20 April 2013 - 07:56 PM

Hello all

Sorry for my belated update, it was supposed to be on the 3week mark, it has now been 4weeks.

Here is my update on acne & hair.

After the continued dosage of 3g b5 daily & NAC 1.7g daily:

With my skin I have noticed slight improvements, again nothing majorly new to the 1st report made, my skin is somewhat calmer & isnt as agrevated by

monthly's or junk food, but i'm pretty sure that was similar to my 1st report, & congestion plus occasional breakouts continue.

BUT

Something I have noticed in the last 2days I have begun taking source naturals L cysteine 3grams daily & even though it's too early to tell I must say my skin is

exceptionally clear this morning, congestion much calmer, & just looks all round better, but could be due to something else, will update in another 3weeks.

As for my hair, well there's no hair loss but I can't help but notice how transparent my scalp has been of late I think due to loss in hair density rather then hair loss, strange, I have never expereiced this before, usually it's hair loss not hair density loss, but there you go.

Decided against increasing my dose of b5, will remain on 3grams daily this week only, then will lower my dose to 1.5 grams daily for the coming weeks & provide another update.

I will continue with NAC 900grams daily L cysteine 1.5-3grams daily & will begin including Alcar 500mg daily.

I may start incorporating my hail loss meds Finestiride once daily

Till the next update


In Topic: Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

26 March 2013 - 04:51 AM

Hello Adrien & welcome, I'm also quite new to this forum

I'm very fascinated by your research & choices of dosage.

May I ask...

Why did you choose the 2:1 reatio in regards to taking more cysteine/nac then b5?

This forum mostly discusses a 1:2 ratio, which is what I have been following.

Also

What is your opinion on the absorption of L cysteine to NAC?

As with the research I've done I've come to the conclusion that NAC is the best form to take, the least toxic, & the most binding,

I have attatched this info in previous quotes written in this forum.

And finally..

Since you discussed magnesium as also being depleted while dosing on b5,

why have you not included it in your regime?



Oh & if you could please include the sources/links of you research,

would love to read into them myself.

Especially in regards to the doses of calcium depleting magnesium

as im taking high doses of calcium ascorbate along with the b5,

but I've also recently included magnesium ascorbate, but wasn't planing on staying on it long

 

 

Hello Mis911,
 
Thanks for your welcoming and for your interest in my post.
 
I chose the 2:1 cysteine/vit b5 ratio to avoid cysteine depletion by Panthotenic Acid.  
 
From what I read NAC is better absorbed, but nearly all the posts I found about cysteine supplementation with vit b5 didn't talked about NAC.
 
I forgot to say that I'm taking 600 mg magnesium and a b-complex everyday.
 
Sorry I haven't kept the links, but if you want to find info about calcium/magnesium I would recommend you to look into some paleo websites like paleohacks.
 
May I ask how much calcium you are taking?
 
Sincerely,
Adrien
Would you mind directing me to the posts discussing cysteine supplementation with vitamin b5?
I wasn't aware there was other one's besides this one.
 
I am taking calcium in the form of calcium ascorbate, I take around 6grams twice daily the equivelant of calcium amount to that would be approx 600mg twice daily



Correction:

I recently lowered my dose of calcium ascorbate to 3grams once a day, calcium equivalent 300mg.

I also take magnesium ascorbate 3grams twice daily

B multivitamin

& a variety of other vitamins, minerals & amino acids


In Topic: Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

25 March 2013 - 09:15 PM

Also I would like to mention for those experiencing massive hairloss to read up on miconazole nitrate.

There are extensive forums & rave's about how it's regrowing bald patches, Filling in thin hair, & increasing the speed of hair growth.

If your at your wits end this is possibly something you may wanto try.

I myself am experimenting with this on a patch of hair on my head for a 1 month to see if there's any postive results,

I will report either way, but please don't hesitate to read up on this yourself, there a literally hundreds of pages to read on so many

people have tested in many different ways.

Hope this helps some of you :)


In Topic: Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

25 March 2013 - 08:38 PM

Have the people so far that reported hair loss, did this occur even while taking the remedy discussed here Cysteine/nac??

If you have read this forum from the beginning.

 

I must admit only 2people have experienced the results of the b5/nac combo & reported positive results, which is not much to go by,

I myself have been on this treatment but it is much too early to report, I have made an earliear report with no result from 1.5grams of b5 daily

& now have increased my dosage to 3grams & awaiting 3weeks to report results....it has been 12days & so far I must admit my skin looks some

what calmer but still with occasional breakout.

 

What ever the outcome I will not continue on a high dosage (5grams is my maximum) for longer then 3 months before tapering down to a maintenance dose.

 

In my opinion, 7months of mega dosing on b5 is much too long for any body to tolerate with the reported negative results so far.

I think with caustion & extensive revision this b5 experiment can be tested without too much negativity experienced.

So far I have not read any one that has proceeded this way to have any negative results, If there is please don't hesitate to let the rest of us know



DON'T TAKE B5 it fucked my life up my hair is really really thin now I may have to shave it all off, except for the op know one else has found a cure out of hundreds of people. Don't take anymore than 1.5 if you really do want to take it

 

 

I wouldn't take B5 at any dose higher than .5 grams per day. A girl on another forum said she lost her hair by using 1 gram a day and it never grew back. 

 

It ruined my hair. Still looking for a cure. I am going to book a doctors apt and get tests done on thyroid/ hormones. 

 

I meant to mention this earlier but I have been on Propecia (Finasteride) and Rogain for 6 months and I am still shedding like crazy and it has not slowed down...

 

 

Mate I was the same I took about 6 grams for about 7 months and then it began and it hasn't stopped since and I havnt taken b5 for about 8 months now, 9 grams is way too much man ur just messing yourself up but it's your choice at the end of the day
 

Cheers. Glad I found this forum. I guess I'll cut it out completely. Not worth the risk in my opinion. Have to find something else to help with the acne I guess. Thanks a million guys!


Try msm powder for acne that's what I've been using and I find it pretty good, also get some real African black soap form eBay or somewhere that also helps.

Have the people so far that reported hair loss, did this occur even while taking the remedy discussed here Cysteine/nac??

If you have read this forum from the beginning.

 

I must admit only 2people have experienced the results of the b5/nac combo & reported positive results, which is not much to go by,

I myself have been on this treatment but it is much too early to report, I have made an earliear report with no result from 1.5grams of b5 daily

& now have increased my dosage to 3grams & awaiting 3weeks to report results....it has been 12days & so far I must admit my skin looks some

what calmer but still with occasional breakout.

 

What ever the outcome I will not continue on a high dosage (5grams is my maximum) for longer then 3 months before tapering down to a maintenance dose.

 

In my opinion, 7months of mega dosing on b5 is much too long for any body to tolerate with the reported negative results so far.

I think with caustion & extensive revision this b5 experiment can be tested without too much negativity experienced.

So far I have not read any one that has proceeded this way to have any negative results, If there is please don't hesitate to let the rest of us know


In Topic: Vitamin B5 Hairloss- Cured (Pictures)

23 March 2013 - 11:09 PM

I'm taking them for overall health aswell as an acne remedy, it is so far providing some assistance at minimising & shifting the breakouts.

I alternate between the calcium & magnesium ascorbate daily, yes they are both forms of vitamin C or mineral ascorbates.

 

Mineral ascorbates: When mineral salts of ascorbic acid are taken, BOTH the ascorbic acid and the mineral appear to be well-absorbed, so it is important to take into consideration the dose of the mineral accompanying the ascorbic acid when taking large doses of mineral ascorbates.

 

Hence why I chose those two forms of mineral ascorbate's, to get my vitamin C along with a suitable amount of calcium & magnesium dosage.

 

So I answered yours...will you answer mine?



Patientx please forgive my last statement

"So I answered yours...will you answer mine?"

 

I thought it was AAAdrien that wrote that comment, which is why I said that, please diregard



According to my humble researches the Pantothenic Acid / hairloss connection might be explained by two mechanisms :
 
1) Hypercalcemia :  1 g Calcium Pantothenate = 90 mg Calcium, so taking very high doses like 10/20 g everyday will deplete Magnesium over time, and Magnesium deficiency is linked to hair loss.
 
2) Cysteine depletion : Coenzyme A is synthesized from Pantothenate and Cysteine, large amounts of Pantothenic Acid would bind to all the Cysteine present in the body and lead to its depletion. Cysteine being particularly important for hair, hair loss would occur.
 
I have insanely oily skin myself and I'm planning to tackle it like this :
 
1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 2 g Cysteine /day
 
or 
 
1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2.5 g Cysteine /day
 
or 
 
1 g Calcium Pantothenate + 0.5 g Panthetine + 2 g Cysteine per day + 0.5 g NAC /day
 
The purpose of adding two cysteine derivatives like cysteamine (contained in Panthetine) and NAC is to increase the chance of absorption of that Amino Acid.  
 
Tell me what you guys think. Thanks.
 
Sincerely,
Adrien, from France

Hello Adrien & welcome, I'm also quite new to this forum

I'm very fascinated by your research & choices of dosage.

May I ask...

Why did you choose the 2:1 reatio in regards to taking more cysteine/nac then b5?

This forum mostly discusses a 1:2 ratio, which is what I have been following.

Also

What is your opinion on the absorption of L cysteine to NAC?

As with the research I've done I've come to the conclusion that NAC is the best form to take, the least toxic, & the most binding,

I have attatched this info in previous quotes written in this forum.

And finally..

Since you discussed magnesium as also being depleted while dosing on b5,

why have you not included it in your regime?



Oh & if you could please include the sources/links of you research,

would love to read into them myself.

Especially in regards to the doses of calcium depleting magnesium

as im taking high doses of calcium ascorbate along with the b5,

but I've also recently included magnesium ascorbate, but wasn't planing on staying on it long