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SebumSucks

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#3333264 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 13 March 2013 - 11:21 PM

The only thing I can assure, is that sun exposure is not the clue, because I live in Spain, in an Island and we have too much sun. This island is Ibiza, and if you have heard of it, its famous for sun and beaches. And sun is not the clue.    

 

Yes, I agree, sun exposure is not the answer, for the following reasons:

  1. At most latitudes in the northern hemisphere (North America & Europe) during winter, your skin cannot produce ANY vitamin D, regardless if the sun is shinning or no.  The angle of the sun is too steep and UVB rays that are responsible for producing vitamin D are blocked by the thickness of the atmosphere.  So even if you live in a sunny climate your skin cannot produce Vitamin D during winter so pretty much everyone's vitamin D levels reduce during winter unless you are vacationing to the middle latitudes or southern hemisphere during our winter months. 
  2. Most people these days have been instructed to lather on sun block to protect your skin from premature aging and skin cancer, so even if you do sunbath at the beach during summer, if you are applying tons of sun block you are again blocking the beneficial effects of UV (vitamin D production) on the skin.  I am not saying one shouldn't apply sun block at all, but for occasional sun exposure outside of peak UV hours, it is probably best to not apply sun block to actually get some UV exposure (of course this depends on one's skin type and sensitivity)

Also, even assuming lots of sun exposure in summer without sunblock, I think it is likely some portion of the population may have an impaired ability to produce Vitamin D in the skin, hence the acne, since diet alone cannot supply enough of it for optimal health.   (This is my own conjecture here, not fact)

 

Anyhow, yes I have heard of Ibiza,  I believe it is well known for its party scene.  You are lucky to live in such a beautiful place.  If you do end up trying Vitamin D, please come back and let us know if it works for you.




#3332287 25, Facial Hair & Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 10 March 2013 - 01:36 PM

Have you ever been to a doc and been evaluated for PCOS?  Hormones way out of wack and excessive facial hair for females can be symptoms of it.  Aside from that you should concentrate on looking at solutions to balance your hormones.  From what you have described, topical treatments will never get you where you want to be. An imbalance of hormones is the root cause of acne.  I have been essentially cured of severe acne by taking Vitamin D (a prohormone).  Take a look in the Vitamin boards under "Vitamin D has cured me of oily skin and acne".




#3332030 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 09 March 2013 - 10:36 AM

There is no cure for acne. There is only remission through therapy or one fine day you finally "grow out" of the disorder. Vitamin D has been linked to improving insulin resistance (especially in women with PCOS and such) so I can see it perhaps with prolonged exposure "alleviating" acne symptoms in some women but not curing them. I can bet money your acne wasn't severe.

 

I am assuming this post is directed to me.  You are right, there is no cure for acne.  There is no cure for most diseases but people will refer to treatments as cures if/when their symptoms reduce to such a low level as to be not existent or almost non existent.   I debated whether on not to use the word cure and in the end decided it was warranted as it meets the definition I have stated above.  I also wanted folks to read this thread and take interest enough to try it themselves.  Saying "Vitamin D" put me in remission" just isn't as effective to get people to read this than saying it is a cure (for me at least and perhaps hopefully for others if they try it).  Besides, a large portion of the folks that come on here are young and might not even know what the term remission means.

 

Anyhow, Vitamin D just hasn't alleviated symptoms for me, it has put my acne and oily skin into long term remission with amazing results that NO other drug or topical has ever done. I suggest you go back and actually read the whole OP, if you did you'd come to realize my acne was very, very, severe. Males don't go on three rounds of Accutane and have acne into their 30s if it's not severe.  I'd be more than happy to take your money in a bet.




#3322691 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 29 January 2013 - 11:02 PM

Do you want to believe a doctor who probably has never experienced acne him/her self, or folks who have personal experience for years or decades?

 

Your doc reminds me of a derm I saw a few years ago.  About 3 years ago I went to see a new derm; I picked him because he was voted one of the best where I live (a major metropolitan city).  He was like president of the derm association for a number of years or some such and had all the credentials, Ivy League,  and was also older, probably in his early 60s (so should have plenty of knowledge and experience treating patients).  Anyhow it was fall time, I think October.  He proceeds to tell me he gets lots of folks come in for acne in Fall as their acne seems to flare up at that time.  Having heard about the benefits of Vit. D at the time (but not very knowledgeable like I am now) I asked him, was it because of the lack of Vitamin D production and he says no because of the lack of UV from the sun.

 

Now I don't disagree with the notion that UV exposure while sun bathing can irradiate bacteria, included P. acnes, on the skin, but now having experienced what I have by supplementing with Vit. D I know for me (and likely others) it is the increase in Vitamin D production that actually does much more benefit.  If only I had followed up myself on Vitamin D at the time and not listened to that derm I would have resolved my acne 3 years earlier and saved myself 3 more years of frustration, no to mention another round of Accutane.




#3322397 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 28 January 2013 - 10:28 PM

Yup still doing great. Started 5000IU yesterday. I got one very small pimple this morning but I still have a few pores that need to clear completely so I am not concerned at all as skin is still producing very little sebum and overall my skin continues to improve.

 

I know the whole thing sounds too good to be true.  I probably wouldn't believe it myself if it didn't happen to me.

After trying so many things over so many years including all the prescriptions it's really unbelievable that Vitamin D could cause such amazing results. At the same time though it makes sense that something was imbalanced internally that was causing the crazy oily skin and acne; just never though it could be Vitamin D.  But once I learned it is actually a pro-hormone then it started making more and more sense.  

 

I was about your son's age when it all first started for me too and it is especially tough to understand what is happening along with all the other puberty stuff at that age. It sounds like his skin was very much like mine. I had everything too, whiteheads, blackheads, papules, pustules, cysts, and horrible on the back and shoulders too.  It's one thing to have the occasional teenage pimple, but severe acne hurts tremendously both physically and even more so psychological. 

 

Anyways 4000-5000IU should be safe, especially if he is deficient.  I would not have him on this dose long term (more than a few months) without having him tested at some point as too much (like anything) can be a bad thing but it does take a while, even at this dose, to build up in the body.   I personally like to start any supplementation at lower doses and build up to higher levels over time in case of an adverse reaction or side effect but that is just me.  I saw amazing results at just 1000-2000IU and just upped to 5000IU now to see if it helps with other conditions.

 

Based on your description of his current state, it is possible he might get a flare up or IB. But if he is seeing his skin get less oily then this is actually a good sign.  If it's going to work his skin should be much less oily after a few weeks; just note resolution of all acne may take months longer as the skin rejuvenates and heals. Sort of similar to Accutane.  I really hope this works for him too.  Please keep us posted on his progress.




#3320484 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by SebumSucks on 21 January 2013 - 05:10 PM

I registered today just to tell my story that I feel compelled to share with others.
After 22 years of suffering from extremely oily skin and acne I have finally found what I believe is my own personal cure. It's been a very long road to get here and I still can't quite believe it, but Vitamin D supplements have COMPLETELY eliminated my super oily skin and acne.  I'm not talking a little bit here, not a 50% or even 90% reduction.  I'm talking 100%.  I still can't get over it having suffered for so long.

I know some of you aren't going to believe what I just said or what I am about to explain. I would have my doubts too if I were reading this just a few months ago, but I am 100% telling the truth of my own personal experience.  So here I go...

I am a male, now in my late 30's and have suffered with excessively oily skin (way way way too much sebum) and severe acne since puberty around 14yo. I have taken EVERYTHING over the years. This gets said a lot around here by 16-18 year old acne sufferers, and I can certainly sympathize, but trust me when I say I have had over 20 years of experience trying EVERYTHING from prescription meds to over the counter topicals to various supplements.  I have tried every systemic and topical antibiotic prescription known for acne.  I have tried every topical retinoid.  I have been on 3 courses of Accutane. I have been on doctor prescribed very high doses of Vitamin A (a safe aqueous form) after my 1st course of accutane when my acne flared back up after treatment. I have tried and used many of the over the counter washes, scrubs, masks with BP, salicylic acid, tee tree, etc. over the years.  Fed up with prescription meds that never fully worked (or in the case of Accutane worked only while on them), over the last few years I have also tried various supplements, including fish oil, cod liver oil, B5, vitamin B multivitamins, antioxidant multivitamins, borage oil, and others.  

About 4 weeks ago I began supplementing with Vitamin D3 1000IU.  Why?  Well a year ago I got a blood test done showing my Vitamin D level was low.  It was a 19 which is considered quite deficient (normal I think is 50-70; reference values have been upped recently).  At the time my doctor prescribed Vitamin D over a 3 month period but at the time I saw no results so stopped after 2 months (this was to try resolving fatigue not acne anyway).  But this winter I started reading up on Vitamin D again as my fatigue was increasing again and came to find out that the Vitamin D that is prescribed via a pharmacy is of the D2 form which some studies have now shown is ineffective in vivo. So I decided to start taking over the counter Vitamin D (in the D3 form), like I said about 4 weeks ago.  Again, the intent was to possibly help with fatigue and perhaps immune support, not necessarily help with my oily skin or acne.  But to my amazement, about one week in I began to see significant reduction in sebum on my skin.  By week two my skin had become COMPLETELY normalized.  I can't even believe I am saying that after so many years of super oily skin.  The only medication capable of doing that for me is Accutane (isotretinoin).  Nothing else could reduce or control sebum production for me.  Not prescriptions or supplements of any kind, even B5.  Remember I'm a male, so there is no other option other than Accutane for us males like BC or Spiro to try and normalize hormones/oily skin.

After taking Vitamin D for 4 weeks now my skin is tighter, smoother, looks normal, and I haven't had a new pimple of any kind surface in 2 weeks which for me is nothing short of a miracle.  Most amazingly is my oily skin is completely gone and hence why I'm confident this is going to work long term for me. In fact the results, both sebum and acne elimination, are just as good if not better than Accutane (Accutane can be super drying in normal doses and can affect wound healing).  

I was going to wait 3-6 months to tell my story because I know there will be naysayers that say 4 weeks isn't long enough to judge long term efficiency, or maybe this is just an anomaly, or something like that. But after 22 years I have more than enough experience with my oily skin and acne to know that this is a fundamental change in my skin that I have never seen before (other than again with Accutane usage).  So I just couldn't wait that long to post.  I felt compelled to do so today in the hopes that my experience might help some others right now, not months from now.

So anyway, completely amazed by this result I have experienced with Vit D I have been doing quite a bit of research online about it and the more I research the more things make sense of how this is affecting my skin.  Vitamin D is actually a hormone and was mislabeled a long time ago as a vitamin because at the time researches didn't realize the body (skin) can actually produce vitamin D.  In a strict sense, vitamins must be supplied by diet, while hormones are produced in the body.  Now, we all know acne is a result of what is most likely an imbalance of hormones in the body.  This is why it is very rare for pre-pubescents to have acne, their pubertal hormones haven't kicked in yet which is when most acne first appears.  

"Vitamin" D, being a HORMONE needed in vital bodily functions, can be one of those hormones that is deficient.  Vitamin D is produced via UV light action on the skin.  In fact, it is produced in the oily cells (sebocytes) in the skin.  Interesting but slight gross side note - I read somewhere that dogs and cats actually get their Vitamin D intake from licking the sebum on their face and hair follicles where the vitamin D is created  Posted Image (their skin cannot directly absorb the vitamin D through the skin).  Apparently (and luckily for most humans) human skin can directly absorb vitamin D on the skin Posted Image.

So I've been pondering, perhaps very oily skin (and associated acne) is a negative feedback of low vitamin D levels in the body.  With lower and lower Vitamin D in the body, the skin produces more and more sebum in efforts to create more Vitamin D to bring the body in balance.  Perhaps those like myself who have consistently super oily skin have an impairment in the ability to create or absorb Vitamin D in the skin.  (I don't really see a reduction in oil during the summer when I get a fair amount of sun).  For me, perhaps the only way to increase my vitamin D levels is not through sun exposure but through supplementation.  There are very few sources of foods with sufficient levels of vitamin D so the only way to get it in sufficient amounts is through vitamin supplements.

In my research I also found out that Vitamin D will bind to some of the same skin cell receptors as certain forms of Retinoic Acid (one of the metabolites of Accutane).  I believe this is likely why Accutane works in a similar fashion (normalizes sebum production) by binding to the same Vitamin D and related receptors in the skin.  Now this is my own hypothesis here, but perhaps when those receptors have vitamin D or retinoic acid bound to them, they in essence tell the skin they have enough Vitamin D and not to produce any more sebum.  Perhaps Accutane works by substituting for and mimicking Vitamin D in the skin . This could possibly explain some of the side affects of Accutane like bone and joint pain which can be a symptom of Vitamin D deficiency (accutane thereby exacerbating the Vit D deficiency).  I could go on about this but this is getting a bit tangential to the subject.

Anyways, I am completely beside myself that Vitamin D has worked better than anything else out there, and that I have suffered with acne for so long due to what appears to be a simple Vit D deficiency. I really implore others to try this too. It is cheap and easy to do with no side effects.  The amount I am taking is 1000IU and is considered a relatively low and completely safe dose.  I am not going to state this is the cure for everyone as I am a case study of one right now (although I have read here and on other websites others having great results with Vit D as well).  But if you have very oily skin, especially into adulthood, I would give vitamin D3 a try.

Not that I think it matters, but in light of full disclosure, I am taking "Natures Made" Vitamin D(3) 1000IU tablets once a day.  I don't think the brand will matter so much, just make sure it is Vitamin D3 and not D2.  I am also taking Safeway brand Vitamin C 500mg tablets at the same time (this is your generic ascorbic acid Vit C).  Note these are run of the mill vitamin brands, not anything special.  It's possible the Vitamin C is adding a synergistic affect to the Vit D; I really don't know. But I do know Vitamin C alone hasn't done squat for me over the years that I have taken it so Vitamin C alone isn't causing the amazing results I'm seeing.  (I am taking Vitamin C for immune support).  These are the only two supplements I am currently taking.  I have dropped all topicals other than washing my face in the morning and night and have just begun moisturizing at night with Aloe Vera Gel.

I'm hoping others will try this as perhaps this might be the solution for them as well.  I'd be more than happy to answer anyone's questions.