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elliew8

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#3361946 Adapalene Log (Why, Oh Why My Are My Genetics Such A Bitch?)

Posted by elliew8 on 27 June 2013 - 09:12 AM

Hey, your posts really make me laugh (not at you obviously, but with you!). It does feel like a warzone with acne sometimes, the way you put things is very apt! Your skin sounds similar to mine from what I can tell - basically random/ inconsistent breakouts on whole face but a disasterous state of bumps and inflamed acne all over the forehead...bad times I know :( I hope this treatment works...120 dollars is just plain ridiculous so it definitely SHOULD work!!!

 

I know how you feel about nearing 23 and still feeling like a pubescent teen, I've noticed it too, nowadays even teenagers seem to have zero acne WTF?! Good job it didn't put a dampner on things though, I find it's always easier said than done trying to forget about my skin. Just things if stuff is starting to surface then the light is at the end of the tunnel, just got to crawl through the bloody awful tunnel first! :)




#3361105 Overwhelming Negativity In This Section

Posted by elliew8 on 24 June 2013 - 02:27 AM

Oh and just to add to Sisyphus: no one here is denying the psychological impact of acne AT ALL and undoubtedly it's both widespread and deeply rooted. HOWEVER, to quote something that states acne is the biggest form of psychic trauma is just plain ignorant...I'm sorry to be harsh but if that's what you actually believe then you need a bit of a reality check. Acne is crap...but there are a lot more mentally debilitating diseases and conditions out there, it basically suggests you are comparing a disease like cancer to acne, which frankly is either stupid or naive.

"There is no single disease which causes more psychic trauma, more maladjustment between parents and children, more general insecurity and feelings of inferiority and greater sums of psychic suffering than does acne vulgaris."  --Sulzberger & Zaldems"

 

Yet another person misinterpreting the quote. What about the rest of the quote? Do you think the quote means having acne is worse than brain cancer? That obviously isn't true. That quote is referring to the totality of all psychic trauma from the billions of people that have acne. Compare that to the trauma only 40,000 people, which are mostly senior citizens, get from rectal cancer each year. The psychic trauma from acne can last a lifetime. It does not mean acne is worse than cancer. I'm sure plenty of people develop lifelong depression and anxiety disorders from cancer. Also, It isn't counting the trauma experienced by people that don't have cancer or acne themselves. 

 

Cancer, known medically as a malignant neoplasm, is a broad group of various DISEASES, all involving unregulated cell growth. Did you notice how it says cancer is a broad group of various diseases and that my quote says "there is no single disease that causes more psychic trauma". That means cancer's are diseases, but melanoma and colon cancer are not the same disease. "Colon cancer, is a cancer from uncontrolled cell growth in the colon or rectum, or in the appendix." Melanoma on the other hand, is a malignant tumor or melanocyte.Therefore, my quote is not comparing all psychic trauma from acne to all psychic trauma from cancer,  it is instead comparing all psychic trauma from acne to all colon cancer psychic trauma, or the sum of all trauma from melanoma or any other single disease. Do you understand the huge difference? On average, how many thousands of people with acne do you think it takes to have similar amounts of psychic trauma as one person with lung cancer? If the psychic trauma from one person with colon cancer was equivalent to the the psychic trauma of 10,000 people with acne then acne would still cause more psychic trauma by a landslide since so many more people get acne. Do you understand?

 

Psychic trauma is defined as an emotional shock or injury or a distressful situation that produces a lasting impression, especially on the subconscious mind. Some causes of psychic trauma may include abuse or neglect in childhood, rape, and loss of a loved one. Are children and teenager's or senior citizens more likely to have negative lasting impressions on the subconscious mind from distressful situation? It's also not counting physical pain.

Hey, I don't think you read my other post that said I was wrong to say the quote was stupid/ ignorant. I understand what psychic trauma means as well as the difference between single disease and various diseases. I haven't misinterpreted the quote, I just don't agree with it...however, as a few others have said, trying to compare acne and cancer is something so subjective that we are probably just going to have to agree to disagree.




#3359930 Overwhelming Negativity In This Section

Posted by elliew8 on 21 June 2013 - 03:14 AM

Ok fair enough, I see where you're coming from dejaclairevoyant and UnacceptedRealist when it comes to comparing acne to cancer because I've been there myself, I know sometimes it just doesn't matter how much worse things could be, it feels completely irrelevent compared to the stuff we are going through personally. However, seeing people in wheelchairs or knowing people that are going through cancer has always made me feel guilty and selfish for feeling so depressed about my acne - for me it's a massive wake up call and makes me put my problems into perspective.

 

I do get that for some, acne can cause suicidal thoughts and using this site has helped so many people. Everyone is entitled to the way they feel - there is no right or wrong. I think being judgemental of others feelings is just frutile because no one can possibly understand completely what someone else is going through and I was wrong to say it was stupid/ naive. The reason I got so frustrated by the comment is because although I know that some would chose cancer over acne, I also can't see how people can condone that kind of rationale.

 

Most people would objectively say that wanting cancer over acne is irrational. I'm not saying their perspective is wrong at all, just that those emotions are not healthy. That's why I think a reality check is needed here: if I was suicidal/ wanting cancer over acne, I would personally go and get counselling, but if people were telling me my behaviour was perfectly ok then I probably wouldn't go and get the necessary professional help.




#3359620 Overwhelming Negativity In This Section

Posted by elliew8 on 20 June 2013 - 02:29 AM

 

 

My idea was to spread positive vibes and to show people that acne won't disable you from being a success in any department of life if you want it enough and showcase enough of your other good qualities. Chill, man. 

 

The thing is, some people can't do that. For some people, acne IS disabling in those ways. Plenty of people have depression and other chemical imbalances that make those things difficult anyway, let alone with severe acne which causes ongoing physical and mental pain on a daily basis. I'm only saying this from my perspective as someone who suffered with that for a long time: for me, hearing the whole "mind over matter, be positive, you can still choose to be happy" stuff made me feel worse. It made me feel like I was failing on being mentally strong on TOP of failing in health and beauty, you know? I'm not saying this is what you're saying and I do get the point you're trying to make, but honestly I was unable to change my perspective and get happy with acne. It took me getting better from it to begin climbing out of the hole of depression that I was in and I still suffer with depression over other things.

 

I'm not sure how to exactly articulate the point I'm trying to make and I'm not criticizing you or anything. We've had very similar discussions in here before and I just basically feel that this should be a place where people can be as depressed as they need to be without worrying about coming off too negative or anything like that. I don't think it's true that anyone can find success and happiness while having severe acne (or other limiting health conditions). Many people kill themselves over these things. Depression is a serious disease and acne can most definitely feed into that. It's not always under the person's control how negative they are being. We should just be 100 percent supportive here and nothing else. Just my opinion. I'm  tired and rambling. smile.png

 

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My idea was to spread positive vibes and to show people that acne won't disable you from being a success in any department of life if you want it enough and showcase enough of your other good qualities. Chill, man. 

 

The thing is, some people can't do that. For some people, acne IS disabling in those ways. Plenty of people have depression and other chemical imbalances that make those things difficult anyway, let alone with severe acne which causes ongoing physical and mental pain on a daily basis. I'm only saying this from my perspective as someone who suffered with that for a long time: for me, hearing the whole "mind over matter, be positive, you can still choose to be happy" stuff made me feel worse. It made me feel like I was failing on being mentally strong on TOP of failing in health and beauty, you know? I'm not saying this is what you're saying and I do get the point you're trying to make, but honestly I was unable to change my perspective and get happy with acne. It took me getting better from it to begin climbing out of the hole of depression that I was in and I still suffer with depression over other things.

 

I'm not sure how to exactly articulate the point I'm trying to make and I'm not criticizing you or anything. We've had very similar discussions in here before and I just basically feel that this should be a place where people can be as depressed as they need to be without worrying about coming off too negative or anything like that. I don't think it's true that anyone can find success and happiness while having severe acne (or other limiting health conditions). Many people kill themselves over these things. Depression is a serious disease and acne can most definitely feed into that. It's not always under the person's control how negative they are being. We should just be 100 percent supportive here and nothing else. Just my opinion. I'm  tired and rambling. smile.png

 

Yeah, exactly man, that's the way I figured out. If you play positive and a good guy, others will notice that you actually faking and will thing of you as #cringeworthy. Been there, done that. You have to find yourself and you have to be what you are. I figured out that what makes me really happy is doing what I like. But that doesn't need to be an obstacle. 

 

 

I see the merits of your post, but I do take a bit of an issue with the phrasing "play positive and a good guy." I'm not really attempting to "play" anything. I don't see this as some sort of stage. I -am- being what I am and doing what makes me happy by trying to view things in a less depressing way. I'm working on changing the view that I had for months in regards to acne. It's sad that I'm realizing now how useless and wasteful feeling down really is. Yes, there were times when I couldn't help it - but that's when you usually know it's time for help from others (and not just users on this site). If a user is happy being consistently negative and posting things that hint at their hatred for life, then have at it. For some reason though, I find that rather hard to believe. 

 

Just though I'd weigh in here...doesn't it make sense to let people be negative or positive whenever they feel like it? Fair enough sometimes it's a bit depressing to read but equally it's reassuring too because others are going through the same stuff.

 

I think if it seems overwhelmingly negative maybe just don't click on those posts and start a few positive threads. Same goes for when negative threads get some positive advice - if we are feeling like we need to just wallow/ vent without the pep talk then don't reply to the poster.

 

It's no good complaining about each other, some people are more optimistic and others more pessimistic, either way this is the section to deal with emotions so just accept the happy posts along with the depressing ones.

 

Ellie, thanks. That's a balanced response. Maybe my topic was a bit provocative and it seemed like I was indeed "complaining" or blasting users for doing what they're doing. I was certainly showcasing my dislike for some of the more banal, depressing topics in this section, but I never meant to criticize or demean anyone's input. It was mainly an opinion topic, which is why I asked for feedback. What I didn't ask for (some users didn't really get this) is pathetic personal attacks stemming from insecurity. Ah, but we're well past that now, aren't we? smile.png

 

Yeah I think it's just a sensitive issue which is why it's got so many people riled...I wouldn't take anything personally on this site, just take it with a pinch of salt - everyone is going through a lot of physical and emotional stuff so it's understandable that everyone is getting worked up I guess.

 

Oh and just to add to Sisyphus: no one here is denying the psychological impact of acne AT ALL and undoubtedly it's both widespread and deeply rooted. HOWEVER, to quote something that states acne is the biggest form of psychic trauma is just plain ignorant...I'm sorry to be harsh but if that's what you actually believe then you need a bit of a reality check. Acne is crap...but there are a lot more mentally debilitating diseases and conditions out there, it basically suggests you are comparing a disease like cancer to acne, which frankly is either stupid or naive.




#3359345 Overwhelming Negativity In This Section

Posted by elliew8 on 19 June 2013 - 06:55 AM

Just though I'd weigh in here...doesn't it make sense to let people be negative or positive whenever they feel like it? Fair enough sometimes it's a bit depressing to read but equally it's reassuring too because others are going through the same stuff.

 

I think if it seems overwhelmingly negative maybe just don't click on those posts and start a few positive threads. Same goes for when negative threads get some positive advice - if we are feeling like we need to just wallow/ vent without the pep talk then don't reply to the poster.

 

It's no good complaining about each other, some people are more optimistic and others more pessimistic, either way this is the section to deal with emotions so just accept the happy posts along with the depressing ones.




#3359310 Heat Rash What To Do- (I Know This Isn't Acne Related Calm Down Peeps)

Posted by elliew8 on 19 June 2013 - 02:31 AM

Hey, I had this recently on holiday and used aloe vera gel to stop it from itching and took an antihistamine too. My was on my forearms and lasted about a week I think. Apart from that I'd say a cold compress would be a good idea until it's run its course


#3357149 Help Me Understand Androgens Please!

Posted by elliew8 on 12 June 2013 - 02:45 AM

Hey I was doing some research on this yesterday myself, mainly because I was wondering about whether androgens are found in birth control - which apparently they are. Also a big word of warning here, do not take chasteberry with birth control because it reduces the contraceptive effects. You might not have been able to find it anywhere because another name for it is vitex - in the UK we can get it at Boots/ Holland & Barrett. I can't advise about saw palmetto or black cohosh but if they are similar supplements to vitex I'd double check about pregnancy.

 

Also depending on which bcp you're on, spiro is included in some of them - the one I'm on is Yasmin and that definitely contains spiro, which is why I think it's given to people with acne (there are increased health risks though so get some advice from the doc).

 

Another thing I recently found out from a bit of research was that vitamin d3 is a hormone balancing supplement so could be worth a try? Anyway, always take everything with a pinch of salt on this site, people will give some great recommendations and advice but take those suggestions to your doctor before trying anything, especially if you're planning on taking supplements in conjunction with other medication.




#3355433 Coping Techniques When Thing's Aren't Going Well

Posted by elliew8 on 06 June 2013 - 07:40 AM

I completely agree with all of those techniques...the only problem is it's easier said than done I guess. It's the things we know we should be doing but find it really difficult to actually stick to. It might be worth putting these on post-it notes and attaching them to a mirror or as reading material in the bathroom lol

 

The thing I also try and remember is that most of the time (except a few lucky souls) we have very little control over our acne but we do have control over how we react to it...plus it's always good to confide in someone who loves you and have them tell you how great you are, sometimes its easy to feel worthless when you have bad skin :(




#3354833 Does Anybody Else's Friends/peers Keep Quiet About Your Skin?

Posted by elliew8 on 04 June 2013 - 09:19 AM

It's good that you have such an understanding husband :) always make you feel a little better knowing someone loves you and can see past your skin. I think in general most people will overlook it but there will always be someone looking to make other people feel bad because of their own insecurities so if it wasn't acne, it would be something else - but then who wants to have friends like that anyway!

 

I've found that (very generalised statement here!) the older generation tends to think it's somehow our fault for having acne - from experience it's usually been grandparents (whom I completely adore btw) that have made comments and offered suggestions...'in my day' is usually how the conversation goes, normally blaming it on diet, or make up or washing too little/ too much - basically they have no clue but think they have accumulated an all-emcompassing widsom because they are old lol the good thing is family/ friends usually say things out of love or concern so just have to take it with a pinch of salt...which is far easier said than done!




#3354761 Does Anybody Else's Friends/peers Keep Quiet About Your Skin?

Posted by elliew8 on 04 June 2013 - 02:11 AM

Hey, I've also been one of the lucky ones, I haven't really had any harsh comments...but I live in the UK so maybe that's a factor? I have had my family make comments like 'wow you've been going at your face again' or 'you need to stop eating so much fatty food' but then they do always compliment me on a good skin day or if I've managed to conceal the mess!

Wish this was true about the area, I am originally from UK and have encountered so many assholes who took great pleasure in making me feel like shit about my skin.

 

By the way, the comments made to you by your family may have been out of concern, however their advice is very inaccurate. Acne is not caused by poor diet, I thought that was well known now - not sure about others on here but I eat really well and my skin has been awful since I was 11 years old, yet most people I know have flawless skin yet abuse their bodies so how do you explain that?! So don't feel guilty for occasionally indulging in what you fancy.

 

But brilliant that there are people out there who do not get bullied about their skin smile.png

 

Ah it's crap I know I have had people make comments (mostly out of concern) and they make me feel like shit too but only because I'm really sensitive about my skin...god forbid someone actually said something hurtful I think I'd have to smack em! lol yeah I know, for me diet doesn't affect my skin but try telling that to them, ignorance is bliss I guess




#3352965 Cystic Acne Pain All The Time

Posted by elliew8 on 29 May 2013 - 04:33 AM

Hey, I don't know if you've tried any acne medication before but antibiotics and benzoyl peroxide might help? If you go to the doctors they will be able to prescribe you something. Antibiotics are usually just a short-term solution but at least you'll be clearer whilst you're finding your long term solution. A lot of people on here are pro-accutane and see amazing results in the long-term, it might be worth seeing a dermatologist for some advice?




#3351535 Patience Is A Big Problem With Acne

Posted by elliew8 on 24 May 2013 - 04:27 AM

Yeah I know what you mean, a lot of people focus on the negative (understandably so) on this site...one good piece of advice is to 'fake it til you make it' - generally not applied to acne but it's helped me at the times when I've not wanted to leave the house or when I'm out and constantly stressing about my skin...if you pretend to be excited about going out and pretend to be carefree when you're socialising you will eventually start to be feel excited and carefree!




#3351534 Aim To Make This Thread A Complete Source Of Information On 'anything...

Posted by elliew8 on 24 May 2013 - 04:19 AM

Hey, going to try and answer all of the questions - sometimes I think whiteheads get ignored a bit because they aren't as bad as cystic acne, but definitely still annoying!

 

1. I get whiteheads mainly on my chin (mostly without redness), nose (bit more yellow and with a red base but usually very small) and forehead (come in all shapes and sizes)

 

2. No idea what causes them personally, although my nose and chin get very oily so this could contribute?

 

3. So for the different types I take different action:

- If they are just white and not red I rarely pick them because they just dry up and flake off after a day or so (when a bit bigger i just use tweezers to pinch the surface which makes the whiteness go and gives a tiny unnoticeable scab)

- When they are red and the whitehead is more yellow those suckers have got to go! I just lightly squeeze which 90% of the time makes it pop a little and bleeds a little which turns into a small concealer coverable scab

-The worst ones are the bigger, quite obvious red ones with a noticeable head - usually look like they are asking to be set free! However when you try and pick them they generally bleed a bit, scab over but then fill up with puss again...leading to more picking and a far more obvious scab. From experience I'd say leave them alone, normally take about 3 days to dry up, but it depends if I'm going out and would rather hide a scab than let people see a big ol whitehead!

 

4. I haven't found a way!

 

5. Just have to say that when they are in between the nose and lips just never ever pick them, I think they are just inflamed hair follicles so they almost always fill back up with puss...bad times. Also just try and remember with whiteheads that they could definitely be worse so don't stress too much...plus for me they go away quicker than any other type of spot so be a little more patient with them and they will probably go away on their own within 3 days.




#3350925 Other Young Men With High Testosterone And High Sex Drive, Do You Think Acne...

Posted by elliew8 on 22 May 2013 - 04:14 AM

You have such a terrible attitude. Life is tough and most people are superficial (notice I said people, not just men or women, but both). It's obvious you're not interested in having a meaningful relationship with a woman and if you treat someone disrespectfully then you can expect to be treated in the same manner.

 

You are being rejected because you have a bad attitude. It's simple. I actually feel sorry for you, not because women are rejecting you but because you have such obscure views about society and women...you clearly haven't heard of the saying 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder' because you would realise acne has absolutely nothing to do with your rejection, it's your stereotypical and sexist views that are frankly disgusting.

 

You are making these threads to get a reaction out of people - unless you truly strive to be a 'pussy slayer' which would be beyond pathetic...initially people will try to give you kind words of advice on here but they will read the utter drivel you are posting and reach the point I'm at now where I've lost patience, you're making me lose faith in humankind that there are people out there who think the way you do.




#3349997 Notice How Almost All The Females Here Have Boyfriends, Yet The Guys Are Ince...

Posted by elliew8 on 20 May 2013 - 02:40 AM

I agree with this thread...and I think it's partially down to typical gender roles with guys approaching girls which a few people have already said...but pretty sure everyone so far has missed out an obvious reason - make up. I think that anyone with acne goes through the same stuff regardless of gender but us girls can at least cover it up or distract from it a little with make up, not to mention the fact that it gives us a huge confidence boost. This is why most girls won't go out the house without a full face of make up and another thing I've noticed on this site is a lot of girls saying that their boyfriends haven't even seen them without make up.

 

I do think it's unfair on guys but like others have said, any girls that would reject you because of acne is not a girl worth having. Plus I don't mean to be harsh but you seem more concerned about getting laid than actually getting to know a girl and we're not stupid, that kind of attitude usually shows. Also try and remember that sometimes you just won't be someone's type, they may not see that initial physical attraction regardless of your acne - you'll never please everyone so don't take it so personally.