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Hiddy Cheeks

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#3404720 Silicone Microdroplet Fillers

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 31 December 2013 - 08:07 AM

The thing about those photos is they were taken immediately after treatment. As I understand it the benefits from silicone are supposed to accrue gradually as collagen grows around the microdroplets. If this is correct it suggests the improvement in the photos may to an extent be due to swelling and not the silicone. I would question her about this if I were you. 




#3399736 Scarless Healing

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 09 December 2013 - 04:41 AM

nerdkid or college or whatever, you must read this. HIDROGEL IS NOT WORK grinwink.gif hahahaha

Omg, the amount of times we've talked about hydrogel you'd think you would be able to spell it correctly. 

Don't respond to Maldition, it reduces you to his level and there's no dignity in that. Remember, he wants you to respond so when you do you are encouraging him and giving him what he wants. These posts only serve to clutter up this thread and add no value to it. When I come here I want to read something worthwhile, not inane, childish bickering. 




#3395059 Letting Go And Living With It

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 15 November 2013 - 11:30 PM

 

 

 

I agree with your intelligent post Hiddy Cheeks!! Yes, sugar/ refined carbs/ gluten/ dairy/ processed foods etc can also lead to acne.

Btw, the reason that I'm so skeptical of the 'genetic causes arguments' is because my dermatologists feed me this 'theory' crap for years, and so I had acne / acne scars for years, as I continued to eat a junk/ western diet & use toxic chemical harsh acne topicals, over washing my wash, wondering why the hell I was still getting and getting acne scars! Most medical doctors are not trained in nutrition. And it is the cornerstone to good health. Essentially, we are made to eat natural foods. Our body does nor recognize chemicals/ processed toxins/ artificial foods/ plastics etc. It will reject these "bioweapons"and secrete them through our skin and organs and cause chronic inflammation, the common cause of disease, infection, scarring etc.

You are going to write off years of research by thousands of people on the causes of acne because of your one, single case study and feel ok saying anyone who doesn't believe a bad diet causes acne is "intellectually challenged"?

 

Actually, the science in this area is far from settled and there is a significant school of thought to the effect that there is a relationship between diet and acne. See for instance the comments in the article at the link below about acne and the western diet and the criticisms it makes of the now very old studies on which the no diet-acne relationship theory is based.  

 

Also, I don't see why anecdotal accounts can't be useful, especially if there a lot of them.  In my case neither my parents nor their parents have / had acne scars. Scarring only appeared in my generation, out of 4 siblings me and my sister have them. Why then if 3 generations of a family share common genes does acne scarring only show up in the youngest generation? Could it be that the older generations were young at a time when junk food and highly processed foods were not as ubiquitous as they are now (by the way, my scar free siblings eat well whereas me and my scarred sister are not so good). And ask any derm and they will tell you that adult acne is becoming more prevalent than it once was. To my mind the most obvious cause of this is environmental factors, most likely diet. But as I said in my previous post this doesn't mean that everyone with a poor diet will develop acne (and vice versa). Diet is only one factor, genetic makeup  is the other. 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2836431/


Great post & thanks for the link!

PS Once upon a time, I too so loved my junk food. I was so relieved to hear the "experts" say my acne wasn't due to my diet; so for years and years, I chomped away at McCrapalds, Kentucky Fried Crap, meat galore, artificial deli cold meats, plastic cheeses, processed sauces, potato chip 'bioweapons', toxic aspartame coca-a-rocket fuel etc, pure acid vinegars, coffee, teas, processed cardboard foods, microwave foods etc. I also diligently used the "experts'" toxic, chemical-based topicals & toxic meds & my skin got MUCH worse (as I over washed & over processed my sorry face).

I found out about the diet link to clear skin by accident. I loved animals and made a moral choice to go vegetarian. To my surprise, I noticed it helped my skin. I then got into natural health. I then went "healthy" (mostly raw) vegan as my commitment to the plight of animals increased.  And to my utter amazement, my skin started to clear! I researched more into natural therapy and discovered needling. It took years of trial and error, but I finally tackled my scaring. I sincerely hope this information helps others. Sooner rather than later. Even if you choose not to become vegan (initially), please look into minimizing meat products, eating only organic, humanely raised meat/ not processed meat/ not deli meat or only eating free range organic eggs & lots of fresh organic vegan wholefoods like salad, nuts, seeds, green leafy greens, kale, fresh fruit/ veg juices, vegetables, lentils, beans, peas, quinoa, brown rice, hummus, chia seeds, tahini, cayenne pepper, turmeric, fresh coriander, fresh mint, fresh flat leafed parsley etc, flat bread (on occasion if you love bread), rice noodles, sea vegetables, avocado, kiwi fruit, oranges (if you're not allergic to it), tomatoes, cucumber, broccoli, red cabbage, asparagus, superfoods like chlorella, spirulina, barley grass - even baked potato (with the jacket)/ sweet potato/ pumpkin etc

PS Also use lots of fresh lemon juice on your salads & grapeseed oil, flaxseed oil (but avoid flaxseed oil if you're pregnant - instead use a vegan DHA/ EPA/ Omega 3 supplement instead and chia seeds etc).

PPS B12 supplementation is vital for vegans. Even non-vegans are often lacking in this vital vitamin. 

 

Yes, good advice. I like the idea of eating well and I am getting better, but am prone to relapses. My niece is a vegetarian and she serves as a good example for me. I doubt I'll ever give up meat for good but I think there is merit in reducing your meat intake by eating vegetarian several nights a week.  

 

When it comes to food I like the ancient wisdom of Hippocrates quoted in the article: "Let food be your medicine and let medicine be your food". Anyway, I'll quit now as people are getting tired of this, but it is an interesting topic not least of all because we've been sold the "diet does not affect acne" meme for so long. 




#3395018 Letting Go And Living With It

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 15 November 2013 - 08:42 PM

 

I agree with your intelligent post Hiddy Cheeks!! Yes, sugar/ refined carbs/ gluten/ dairy/ processed foods etc can also lead to acne.

Btw, the reason that I'm so skeptical of the 'genetic causes arguments' is because my dermatologists feed me this 'theory' crap for years, and so I had acne / acne scars for years, as I continued to eat a junk/ western diet & use toxic chemical harsh acne topicals, over washing my wash, wondering why the hell I was still getting and getting acne scars! Most medical doctors are not trained in nutrition. And it is the cornerstone to good health. Essentially, we are made to eat natural foods. Our body does nor recognize chemicals/ processed toxins/ artificial foods/ plastics etc. It will reject these "bioweapons"and secrete them through our skin and organs and cause chronic inflammation, the common cause of disease, infection, scarring etc.

You are going to write off years of research by thousands of people on the causes of acne because of your one, single case study and feel ok saying anyone who doesn't believe a bad diet causes acne is "intellectually challenged"?

 

Actually, the science in this area is far from settled and there is a significant school of thought to the effect that there is a relationship between diet and acne. See for instance the comments in the article at the link below about acne and the western diet and the criticisms it makes of the now very old studies on which the no diet-acne relationship theory is based.  

 

Also, I don't see why anecdotal accounts can't be useful, especially if there a lot of them.  In my case neither my parents nor their parents have / had acne scars. Scarring only appeared in my generation, out of 4 siblings me and my sister have them. Why then if 3 generations of a family share common genes does acne scarring only show up in the youngest generation? Could it be that the older generations were young at a time when junk food and highly processed foods were not as ubiquitous as they are now (by the way, my scar free siblings eat well whereas me and my scarred sister are not so good). And ask any derm and they will tell you that adult acne is becoming more prevalent than it once was. To my mind the most obvious cause of this is environmental factors, most likely diet. But as I said in my previous post this doesn't mean that everyone with a poor diet will develop acne (and vice versa). Diet is only one factor, genetic makeup  is the other. 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....les/PMC2836431/




#3394995 Letting Go And Living With It

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 15 November 2013 - 07:06 PM

Yes, I doubt diet has much to do with scars or acne at all. Take your average college hunk, he parties and bangs all the young women in their prime, meanwhile he drinks hard and doesn't even know what vitamin supplements are. He is naturally muscular and lean without even knowing what nutrition means.

 

This stuff is all genetic. If you have scars, you will have to learn to live with them to some extent. You are lying to yourself every day that you try to believe that full improvement is out there. Our goal should be trying our best, and accepting any improvement we can get.

 

I think that in many cases it's most likely to be a combination of genetics and environmental influences like diet.  A person may have a genetic predisposition to acne but it will only express itself if certain environmental factors are present. I read somewhere that acne is more or less unheard of among Papa New Guineans who subsist on a traditional diet. Similarly, things like diabetes, heart disease, obesity and tooth decay  were virtually unheard of among primitive people until they adopted a western diet. Increasing rates of cancer among people in their 30's and 40's have also been attributed to modern environmental factors. 

 

Most people, like your college hunk, can adopt a poor diet and not suffer from acne because they are not genetically predisposed to it. Others who do have that predisposition may, like the Papa New Guineans, be able to avoid acne by eating well.  I know this isn't established scientific fact but it make some sense given that in many other respects environmental influences acting on our genes make us what we are.  For myself I believe that a diet high in sugar, dairy and processed foods was at least a contributing factor to my problems with acne and may have pushed me from moderate non-scarring acne to cystic acne. 




#3393448 Letting Go And Living With It

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 09 November 2013 - 01:26 AM

Eager, it sounds to me like you are caught in a perpetual negative feedback loop of your own making. You cynically and incorrectly expect the worst form others, this determines how you relate to other people, through your actions (or lack thereof) you project your negativity outward with the consequence that others project it right back at you.  In the end your predictions of social ostracism and isolation become self-made and self-fulfilling prophecies. 




#3392795 How Long Before Improvement From Needling Shows?

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 06 November 2013 - 01:17 AM

Hi Hiddy Cheeks and NUBY3, 

 

It's been several months since either of you  posted here and I wanted to check in and see how the needling has working out for you both so far? Have you seen improvement? I needled a few scars about 2 weeks ago (boxcar and icepick) and I am wondering what I can expect. I know it's supposed to be a long process but after the microswelling went away I feel that my scars look worse! Getting nervous and hope to see some improvement... I don't want to continue to needling if it's actually making more damage. I also don't want to give up if this is normal...

 

Regarding the fillers - I have had success and failures with fillers... The first time I tried it (Restylane) it made a huge difference. (Temporary of course) The second time, I literally feel like it didn't make any difference at all. I don't even know how that's possible but it's very disappointing. Some of the scars that bug me the most look exactly the same. That said, if I can get permanent results from needling it would be amazing!

 

 

what did you needle with?  how aggressive were you?  what type of scars did you needle?  it will take months to see improvements.  I have seen a lot of improvement in 5 months but what you eat and what supplements you take and what you put on your face after you roll is a huge part of it.

 

by the way, when I say a lot of improvement, I don't mean my scars are gone.  just that they have obviously gotten better/softer/shallower.  I still have a long long way to go.

 

I needled with single needles that I bought from Owndoc. I hit 4 rolling scars that are failry wide and deep and 4 or 5 others that look sort of like ice picks. I was aggresive enough to draw blood and cause swelling in the rolling scars. Oddly enough the icepicks didn't really change shape at all. I suppose I was expecting to see some immediate improvement but I have not seen that. You are saying it will take months so I guess  that means I will need to be patient. I hope it works, nothing else seems to. I'm in 2 minds, the other thing I'm thinking of doing is committing myself to a life time of temporary fillers but I don't really know how effective they are either.   

 

I needled my largest scars and several of the smaller ones 4 times over 6 months and haven't seen much in the way of improvement. Some definitely have not changed, one possibly looks a little wider and there may have been a small reduction in depth on a coupe of others but overall things look much the same as they always have.  But that's only my experience of course, so I wouldn't take it as an indication of how yours will be. 

 

Just on that, I watched a documentary the other night on exercise. A scientist in the UK put a group of people through a training program and recorded their results. He found that the fitness levels of 15% improved dramatically, 15% showed virtually no improvement and the rest fell somewhere between the 2 extremes. His conclusion was that this is representative of the population in general. I know scar treatments and exercise are not the same thing, but his experiment does show how people's bodies respond differently to outside stresses and stimuli. I suspect something similar is going on with scar treatments and this would explain why some people swear by needling and others think it's useless. The moral of the story I suppose is to keep trying different treatments until hopefully you find something that works.

 

As for fillers, I spoke with a nurse the other day who has been injecting fillers for 10 years. She told me most of my scars were too shallow for fillers. She said that fillers won't improve the appearance of shallow scars much, if at all, and that there is a risk of over correction. For the record, my scars are typical acne scars and look much the same as photos people post on here of their scarred cheeks, so it's not like I am trying to treat tiny imperfections that aren't noticeable. I think what the nurse was saying is that fillers work best for really deep pits. She also said that no matter what the treatment, people with deep scars always get the most dramatic improvements and that the shallower scars get, the harder it is to improve them.  I thought that was interesting. 

 

You said fillers worked once for you. What type of scars do you have? Are they deep?




#3361878 Truth Revealed On Laser For Acne Scars**must Read***

Posted by Hiddy Cheeks on 27 June 2013 - 01:31 AM

What this derm says is consistent with the many negative reviews of laser treatments posted by patients on this site and others.