Acne is totally a genetic disease. Coming from my old dermatologist (VERY smart man) said so himself. All acne is genetic.
Well you can believe what you wish, but from the literature i've reviewed this hasn't turned out to be true or proven. Smart man or not its not "all" genetic. And in school this is hardly the case as nurses are taught when it comes to educating clients about their aliments such acne.
The website has changed, the community has grown far to big, people have embraced the success of others to the extreme causing the crusade for a "cure" to continue instead of actually looking at living and managing.Old additives of less is more are thrown out the window with stupid stunts of consuming megadoses of vitamins, buying expensive products, conducting endless research, playing doctor, starting "new diets"- all to end their misery right now.Many come to hear expressing their stories for ways to cope and others abuse that by expressing every detail, exaggerating, then blame acne as the cause for the whole life's misery.
And others follow...
I've read these forums since 2007. A lot has changed and not for the better.
I've held this back for a while but I have to say this...
Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.
Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.
What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.
I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.
I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.
The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.
I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.
**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.
I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.
I think the holistic advocates got more aggressive lately, especially when others started questioning more of it.
Yeah, I do agree more on the moderation part. I've read post advocating outright dangerous nonsense. Could be trolling, sure, but there should be a line drawn somewhere.
Not to mention all their bold and scientifically unfounded claims. For example "leaky gut"? - that's the oldest quack diagnosis in the book.
Here's a website that lists made-up diagnosis quack doctors commonly give to patients
Recognize any of them? I see leaky gut, candida, adrenal fatigue, imaginary food allergies. discussed at length on acne.org as "real conditions". So many people lack natural skepticism.
Exactly. This brings about some pretty crazy stuff. The sad part is it works.. but not for the reasons the person may claim, but provides a damn good background and explanation which convinces many people whom do not question the really legitimacy of it. Many also make their own experiments but then end up adding in extra variables like "then i added x,y, z vitamins, exercised, eliminated foods known to cause acne or allergic reactions" and now im cured. Basing the claim off some special diet or idea when most of the time its not even true. Reminds me craze to eat alkaline foods in order to make your body more basic than acidic. The body is already basic at a pH of 7.35-7.45 and has EFFECTIVE buffers to counteract acid/base imbalances. Although, eating alkaline foods helps with certain other medical conditions such as certain types of kidney stones and interstitial cystitis.
The point is people promote crap really. Not all but from time to time i get a good laugh on this site on whats new.
Yep, and if pH greatly affected the normal body and threw it into chaos like some insinuate, we'd be dead.