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Michelle Reece

Member Since 23 Nov 2012
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In Topic: This Website Sure Isn't What It Used To Be

24 March 2014 - 06:23 PM

Acne is totally a genetic disease. Coming from my old dermatologist (VERY smart man) said so himself. All acne is genetic.

Well you can believe what you wish, but from the literature i've reviewed this hasn't turned out to be true or proven. Smart man or not its not "all" genetic. And in school this is hardly the case as nurses are taught when it comes to educating clients about their aliments such acne. 

 

The website has changed, the community has grown far to big, people have embraced the success of others to the extreme causing the crusade for a "cure" to continue instead of actually looking at living and managing.Old additives of less is more are thrown out the window with stupid stunts of consuming megadoses of vitamins, buying expensive products, conducting endless research, playing doctor, starting "new diets"- all to end their misery right now.Many come to hear expressing their stories for ways to cope and others abuse that by expressing every detail, exaggerating, then blame acne as the cause for the whole life's misery.

 

And others follow...  

 

I've read these forums since 2007. A lot has changed and not for the better. 



 

 

 

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.

 

I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.

 

**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.

 

I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.

 

I think the holistic advocates got more aggressive lately, especially when others started questioning more of it.

 

Yeah, I do agree more on the moderation part. I've read post advocating outright dangerous nonsense. Could be trolling, sure, but there should be a line drawn somewhere.

 

Not to mention all their bold and scientifically unfounded claims. For example "leaky gut"? - that's the oldest quack diagnosis in the book.

 

Here's a website that lists made-up diagnosis quack doctors commonly give to patients

 

http://www.quackwatc...Topics/fad.html

 

 

Recognize any of them? I see leaky gut, candida, adrenal fatigue, imaginary food allergies. discussed at length on acne.org as "real conditions". So many people lack natural skepticism.

 

Exactly. This brings about some pretty crazy stuff. The sad part is it works.. but not for the reasons the person may claim, but provides a damn good background and explanation which convinces many people whom do not question the really legitimacy of it. Many also make their own experiments but then end up adding in extra variables like "then i added x,y, z vitamins, exercised, eliminated foods known to cause acne or allergic reactions" and now im cured. Basing the claim off some special diet or idea when most of the time its not even true. Reminds me craze to eat alkaline foods in order to make your body more basic than acidic. The body is already basic at a pH of 7.35-7.45 and has EFFECTIVE buffers to counteract acid/base imbalances. Although, eating alkaline foods helps with certain other medical conditions such as certain types of kidney stones and interstitial cystitis.

 

The point is people promote crap really. Not all but from time to time i get a good laugh on this site on whats new.  

 

 

Yep, and if pH greatly affected the normal body and threw it into chaos like some insinuate, we'd be dead.


In Topic: This Website Sure Isn't What It Used To Be

24 March 2014 - 12:30 AM

 

 

 

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.

 

I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.

 

**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.

 

I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.

 

I think the holistic advocates got more aggressive lately, especially when others started questioning more of it.

 

Yeah, I do agree more on the moderation part. I've read post advocating outright dangerous nonsense. Could be trolling, sure, but there should be a line drawn somewhere.

 

Not to mention all their bold and scientifically unfounded claims. For example "leaky gut"? - that's the oldest quack diagnosis in the book.

 

Here's a website that lists made-up diagnosis quack doctors commonly give to patients

 

http://www.quackwatc...Topics/fad.html

 

 

Recognize any of them? I see leaky gut, candida, adrenal fatigue, imaginary food allergies. discussed at length on acne.org as "real conditions". So many people lack natural skepticism.

 

Yep: leaky gut, toxin overload, adrenal fatigue, estrogen dominance (what does that even mean?), progesterone deficiency, IgG food allergies/intolerances, blood sugar spikes causing/contributing to acne...it's just insane. The basics in biology and chemistry escapes a lot of people here. Granted, some of them are under 16, but you'd think that someone who took biology in high school or college would remember this stuff. Mention anything about epithelial cells and a lot of people's eyes would glaze over. Epithelial cells were covered in my biology class--not as much as anatomy, though.

 

And you're right about lacking skepticism. A part of that originates from not having enough education/remembering facts, and another to desperation.


In Topic: I've About Had It...

21 March 2014 - 11:36 PM

 

 

 


It's not question to me that acne has ruined my self-esteem and stopped me many times from doing things I normally would do. I am just flat out sick of it.
I have tried almost everything. Even nothing at all, which, most people says is bad and will make it worse, but my acne never gets better or worse when I use stuff or don't use stuff. The only time I felt like it improved some was when I used retinol, for almost a year. and even then it would come back. I'm just so tired of it and want clear skin for once in my life (I say that, but i've had it the past 6 years) though some have had it longer.. It's still frustrating. I would rather use nothing at all if possible but I feel like my diet has no affect on my acne. I've gone from healthy to not healthy and back again over and over and nothing seems to change it, in fact when I eat healthier I feel like it's worse, probably because smoothies have a lot of sugar. I don't know. Regardless, I'm willing to do almost anything at this point. Also, is it worth it to do a month facial / whatever somewhere where they clean your face? I've tried going to the Suana at the gym but I feel like my skin just gets worse a few days later after doing it. 
I also have sleep apnea which I feel affects my skin, but I had surgery for that and other than that I don't know what I can do for that, not sure if that's the sole reason I have acne. But my skin does clear up in the winter time (not totally, but for the most part) so I can't figure that one out. Though my back never clears up, it always has "marks" not really pimples. 
 
This is just so frustrating, every time I see a guy with clear skin it just makes me even more down. (I am a guy)

 
To clarify, did you use any prescription topicals? On average, how long did you stay with your regimens?

I have tried one prescription I do not remember the name, was a topical, but yeah I don't know... And on average I would try stuff for 2-3 months. I don't really want to keep using all these products on my face if they aren't really going to help it and just make it worse, especially chemicals and whatnot....
 
So, you've only tried one prescription and the rest OTC--am I getting that right?

 

Yes that is correct, if the name was mentioned id recognize it but I can't remember off the top of my head

 

You'll probably need to get a different prescription topical, if not use the oral route like antibiotics.

 

There are several retinoids, topical antibiotics, and retinoid + antibiotic combinations you can try.


In Topic: This Website Sure Isn't What It Used To Be

21 March 2014 - 09:18 PM

 

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.

 

I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.

 

**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.

 

I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.

 

I think the holistic advocates got more aggressive lately, especially when others started questioning more of it.

 

Yeah, I do agree more on the moderation part. I've read post advocating outright dangerous nonsense. Could be trolling, sure, but there should be a line drawn somewhere.


In Topic: Query On Amlactin Lotion

21 March 2014 - 08:03 PM

Hi, I have hyperpigmentation and red scars on my face. Can I use Amlaction 12% lotion on my face? Thanks.

 

It could help with some hyperpigmentation to some extent, but 2% hydroquinone, 4-5% niacinamide, 10% glycolic acid, and sunscreen is better.

 

4% hydroquinone is best for true hyperpigmentation (not red marks).