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#3488933 Is There A Limit To How Many Times You Should Dermaroll Your Face ?/

Posted by blahblah82 on 22 July 2015 - 07:54 PM

I mentioned this in another post, but I think the point needs to be driven home.  ALL dermarollers are essentially made in CHINA.   Even Owndoc posted something recently and ADMITTED that their rollers are sourced from China as well.  I remember the Sarah lady posting a while back talking very negatively about China rollers, and now she openly says that hers are made there as well. Point is, be skeptical and don't buy everything you hear online.

As far as the micro-tearing issue goes, that seems like something the marketing department of dermapen came up with to differentiate their products from the rollers.  Don't get me started on Banish Kit.  And now it seems like Rodan and Fields, the people who make Proactiv, are trying to get into the dermaroller game now too!!!  Seems like there's a lot of money to be made in home treatments for acne scars.  The are also marketing extremely AGGRESSIVELY on youtube as well with a lot of their sales people spamming countless youtube videos. 

And Sarah at owndoc is a very skilled marketer.  First she was against the automated devices like dermapen, and wrote a lengthy article bashing it.  Now she sells her own machine.  That's not to knock her device, it's just to show that she is a marketer first and foremost.  She was against it before she was for it.  Kinda like how her story keeps changing about where and how she sources her products.  Again, not knocking the products, just exposing her for what she is.

Just buy a decent priced, good quality roller, and forget the hype!

#3488929 ~My~ Subcision/microneedling Journey W/ 2 Week Protocol + More

Posted by blahblah82 on 22 July 2015 - 07:33 PM

My opinion is that if you have a particularly nasty nodular cyst, get it injected with Kenalog STAT!  Seriously, the longer a cyst sits around under the skin, the more time it has to cause inflammation that will destroy your own collagen and tissues.  Just remember to get a low dose of kenalog, so that you minimize the chance of overcorrecting and getting atrophy.  FYI, usually even in the worst case of atrophy, the tissues can recover.  There's a long thread on here from a girl that got significant atrophy and still she recovered, albeit it took a long time.  Don't suffer with a cyst!

#3488928 Would You Guys Recommend The Dermaroller For Me?

Posted by blahblah82 on 22 July 2015 - 07:28 PM

It's almost virtually impossible to buy a roller that is not made in China.  Guess what?  Even Owndoc FINALLY admitted that their rollers are made in China after talking negatively about rollers made in China.  It's hard to believe anything that woman Sarah says anymore, though her products are decent. 

All of the rollers are made in China, period.  The different companies just simply slap their own branding on it. 

OP, your scars are indeed very minor, so I hope you don't stress out too much about it.  That said, I can understand why you'd want to improve on it.  Dermarolling is pretty low risk, so I would recommend doing that.  I think you shouldn't try to do too much and end up making things worse. 

#3488773 Scar/red Mark Really Down :( Please Help

Posted by blahblah82 on 21 July 2015 - 03:41 PM

Banish kit is outrageously expensive for what it is.   They just buy rollers from China and include really questionably made topicals.  The stuff literally looks like someone mixed it in their kitchen and placed in a cheap container.  These clowns market the kits AGGRESSIVELY on youtube and social media by paying popular vloggers to endorse their products.  The prices are ridiculous and they are clearly exploiting people who are naive and don't know any better.   Their photos look doctored or questionable (ie taken with swellling present).

You can buy the exact same rollers and stamps on Owndoc.com.    At least owndoc has good rollers and stamps for reasonable prices.  

The scars are indeed present, so I see why you are concerned.  I think you should look into subcision and suction from a good dermatologist.   

#3487709 Does Dermarolling/stamping Really Help With Actual Indented/pitted Scarring?...

Posted by blahblah82 on 13 July 2015 - 01:43 PM

In theory it sounds like it should work.  If you are creating repeated wounds, you would think that the body has to regenerate the injuries somehow.  That said, I've seen only a handful of really convincing photos that did NOT seem doctored in some way.  

At the end of the day, I would say microneedling, dermarolling, whatever you want to call it, is more of a adjunctive technique.  Meaning that it should be done in conjunction with other methods like subcision, which does most of the heavy lifting for scars.  I would not count on it as the only or even the main component of your treatment.  

#3487613 Very Damaged Skin

Posted by blahblah82 on 12 July 2015 - 05:08 PM

Sorry but you seriously need to check out what some folks are dealing with here.  This post is borderline offensive to me.   This gets old.

#3486942 Icepick Scars And Skull Acne

Posted by blahblah82 on 06 July 2015 - 11:03 AM

This looks like a normal man's skin to me.  Some slight bumps, but nothing remotely terrible.  I say try retin-a or some chemical peels to see if it makes things less bumpy.  Less is more with something minor like this.  

#3485809 Subcision Improvement

Posted by blahblah82 on 25 June 2015 - 06:54 PM

Well in this case you do want SOME atrophy, because you are trying to flatten what is essentially a lump of scar tissue under the top layer of skin.  Kenalog will definitely bring this down if a strong enough dose is injected.  A concentration of 2 mg/ml is not going to do much for a mass of scar tissue like that.  Thanks for the pic.  I see what you are saying.  

Personally, I'd try the Kenalog and 5-FU injections before doing anything radical like excision.  This is too big of an area to be excised, and I am certain that would be a disaster.   

#3483673 ~My~ Subcision/microneedling Journey W/ 2 Week Protocol + More

Posted by blahblah82 on 07 June 2015 - 02:27 PM

Good advice Robertitoo.

d00little, I agree with Robertito, the empty space you feel under the skin in the scarred areas is most likely due to fat loss.  Looking at your pictures, you can see that you've lost volume in the cheek area, which accentuates the scarring.  I had EXACTLY the same issues.  

Like Robertito said, the subcision injury will basically cause a hematoma underneath the skin (a collection of blood).  This lump eventually reorganizes into scar tissue that plumps up the area.  The suction is meant to induce more trauma, hence cause that pool of blood to stick around longer and prevent the skin from reattaching to the deeper layers.  

The idea is to maximize results with subcision, and then whatever is left is fine tuned with filler so you end up spending less on it.  

Robertito posted some great studies that showed that subcision can actually be used on most types of scars.  In the past, most people thought that subcision could only be used on rolling scars, but it actually seems to help with everything EXCEPT ice pick scars.  Rolling and box car scars seem to respond well.  


Robertitoo, another question..

Your scars look similar to mine. When I pinch the skin of my cheeks (where there is scarring) and roll it between my fingers, the skin feels very thin in areas with scarring. Elsewhere it feels very thick. Did your scars ever feel like that?

I'm just wondering if what I have is fat loss under my scars and perhaps subcision wouldn't work on me?

Loss of fat and collagen...subcision will definitely help despite what people say... when they mention that subcision works only on 'tethered' scars.  I'm proof... Microneedling will help too. Do you have pictures?

You might need to undergo 2-3 subcisions is you a significant amount of fat loss but suction method will retain the blood under the scarring for a longer period of time which will benefit you

#3483473 Prp Injection

Posted by blahblah82 on 05 June 2015 - 12:08 PM

For $100, heck go for it.

#3483434 Scarless Healing

Posted by blahblah82 on 05 June 2015 - 07:21 AM

Why does it seem like this thread goes no where.  You guys here are waiting for some miracle cure, while people are finding success with things like subcision and suction in the other threads.  Is it like the same 5 people talking about this?  

Not hating, just wondering how this is constructive.

#3482704 Excision Or Co2 Laser

Posted by blahblah82 on 30 May 2015 - 04:06 AM

Excision first, and possibly followed by laser resurfacing to blend the scar edges to the surrounding skin.  You might get lucky and heal really well and end up not needing a resurfacing procedure.

#3482377 People Get Disgusted When I'm Around.

Posted by blahblah82 on 27 May 2015 - 12:51 PM

To be totally honest, as much as you say its not BDD (but later relented that it could be some level of BDD), I think this is CLASSIC BDD.  I see some VERY minor scarring, but your view of it is totally disproportional.  I'm not being judgemental, but this is clearly something psychiatric, not physical. 

That said, I understand your feelings.  Sometimes I feel like I've made progress in my scar revision journey, but then out in the real world, I constantly, and I mean constantly get double takes and stares that linger just a little too long.  Then there are people who are just rude enough to mutter something under their breath, but within earshot of me.  It sucks, and I'm just so tired of the disrespect.  It's either people not wanting to meet my eyes, or they outright just give me dirty looks.  

#3482336 Subcision~ My Journey So Far~

Posted by blahblah82 on 27 May 2015 - 03:23 AM

Seriously, I wished I would have gone down this route in the beginning of my scar revision journey, speaking as someone who's dropped massive amounts of money and more importantly lost time in the process.   Funny thing is, I actually did start out doing a couple of subcisions, but it was with a not so talented physician and I was not aware of the suctioning protocol at the time.   I think the suctioning is really the key element to prevent the scars from reattaching during the first few critical weeks post-subcision.

NomNom, your results are really amazing!  Keep it up.

#3481254 Does Tca Cross Work?

Posted by blahblah82 on 16 May 2015 - 06:45 PM

I see that you mentioned Dr. Lim from Australia (who apparently posts on this forum).  I've seen a few similar cases on his website, and for this type of scarring TCA Cross could work.  It seems really simple, but you might want to go to an expert for this.  There's an unpredictability factor with TCA Cross because it can makes scars wider / deeper if not done correctly.