So far after 1 month no change.
could you tell us about the technique you've employed? i've been doing massages since mid May and i'm certain i've gotten at least 20% long term improvement over the area i treated.
I've taken a rather extreme approach compared to aquasea's methods; that is massaging everyday with a %0.05 tretinoin cream up until the point that my skin is just about to bleed as a result of mechanical abrasion. no oils, no mosturizers, just leaving the tretinoin overnight. timing varies from 10-70 minutes depending on how vigorous you are (i don't think that matters much). I don't recommend this unless your skin is used to retinoids (5 months at least; ive been on %0.05 tretinoin for more than 2 years).