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I am not quite sure with derma rolling and the extent of your scars but I believe blood needs to be seen for collagen induction to take place. I could be wrong of course. That is just how I go with my own business. I do not stop until I see blood and it is working quite well as of this moment.

UPDATE: The last area I stamped is fully healed, no more swelling, red patches, needle marks. The shallow scars I had there have filled in by 90% and are now unnoticeable. It was already quite faded to begin with so there is really nothing significant here but to see this improvement is amazing to me. At least I know that this painful treatment I am doing is working. I took 2 days off from work starting tomorrow so I decided to stamp. This time I stamped the area I worked on the very first time and I stamped another area with tiny macules and a few very shallow scars. The areas are swollen/red as of now. I am treating it with just polysporine. I am very curious to see how derma stamp affects macules. I will report if I see any improvements. As for pictures, I apologize I keep stalling. I will post pictures the coming days. Bear with me.

My acne scars are quite shallow and it is isolated in 2 areas. I think derma stamping or rolling would work and really eliminate and fade them well. I was also wondering, do you have any hyperpigmentation or dark/red spots that you also stamp? And has stamping so far caused the skin to produce more pigment and make the area darker? I heard that too much needling in an area can cause hyperpigmentation. And for the last question for now: Why did you choose the stamp over the roller? Sorry if my questions are really specific! And can't wait for those images.

Sorry for the late reply, I have been busy the past days. I do have hyperpigmentation from acne breakouts from years past but they have faded by about 90-100%. My only problems are the shallow scars, large pores and the very recent PIH/macules that is no problem to me. I am also not really concerned as much about the large pores. Stamping so far, I have done 4 treatments on various areas have not caused the skin to produce more pigment. It made the area darker because of the trauma caused by the needles but those are temporary and with the daily use of polysporine and consumption of vitamin a,c,e, zinc, the areas I stamped have healed quite well with gradual improvement. The reason I chose the derma stamp because my scars are very minimal, shallow and scattered. If I post my picture, you guys might even critic me for worrying since I have very little scars but I am self conscious about how I look so I treat them. I will post the images soon. I just can't seem to get good lighting and my camera produces very big file sizes. I will try with my recently bought iPhone when I have the time. Thanks for following bud and good luck!

UPDATE: The areas I stamped on January 2nd have healed by 95%. The areas are still both slightly darker than the rest of my skin but they are rather unnoticeable now. The first area I stamped was the one I already previously worked on. It has improved by another 5% from what I am seeing. It was already faded to begin with but the shallow scars there are filling in quite nicely. Actually I can already see the bottom of one scar which I have previously not seen before. I am very pleased about that. The second area I treated was the one with mostly macules. From stamping, I found out one which I thought was a macule was actually a mole (lol). Also, from a giant pimple I had in April 2012 which produced 2 very dark macules have faded by a very tiny shade. I am also very pleased with that. Maybe I will see more improvements after the areas go back to 100%. For now, I will not be doing any stamping since I am back in university. I cannot wait for a prolonged break so I can resume stamping. My goal will be to stamp as much as I can this summer and get as much improvement as I can by next school year (September). I will definitely post pictures of my scars and the areas I stamped. I can't seem to get good lighting to show my scars the best and my camera produces such high file sized images. I will try to take pictures with my recently bought iPhone when I have time. If you have more questions, feel free to ask. Thanks for following guys! I try to help out as much as possible!

Nice to hear it's going well. I'm wondering though, after your first procedure, did you notice any NEW scars that appeared or formed at all? Like new little tiny holes or something? Also did you bleed at all during your stamping? And lastly, If possible, could you actually post pictures of the area your stamping? Thanks and good luck!

Thanks! Actually, I know what you are talking about. Those are not scars. Those are just PIH that formed from the needles hitting the healthy skin. They are perfectly normal. Mine went away in about a day or 2. I made sure I bled during my stamping. Collagen won't be induced if there is no "injury" or bleeding. When you are stamping, always make sure the whole scar has been stamped. You will know that if a scab forms on the scar. That way when it is remodeling, the whole scar is affected not just a portion of it. I will post pictures soon.

I was wondering, can I still "injure" my skin even though I don't reach bleeding point? Instead of blood, it gets incredibly red.

No I don't think so. The only way collagen is induced is if there is injury in terms of blood which tricks the body into thinking that there is real injury. If the area just gets really red, there is really nothing that is happening. Good luck bud!

Yeah I had the same question too after reading your response. If bleeding point needs to be reached for collagen to be induced then to me, it feels kinda risky. I haven't done dermarolling if you had assumed I did xD, but I do plan on doing it. Just in general I'm afraid of seeing blood come out of the skin especially my face because I remember when I still had acne, I would wait for the whiteheads to dry and flake off on it's own but once in a while, while I'm sleeping, I would wake up to find a blood patch on my pillow and some blood on my face where the scabbing whitehead was at. I knew then that it would leave more then a dark mark but an indent. I guess I'm just traumatized by my experiences with blood coming out of the skin on my face and that I know that dermarolling blood is Very different then scratching a healing acne scab and seeing blood. It's just the thought. Also, I'm an Asian guy too and I'm also 19 and my skin color is also pale! I remember reading about your other thread a while back and your experiences that you had explained seemed VERY similar to mine. I hope to see those images soon if possible and keep us updated! Good Luck!

I am not quite sure with derma rolling and the extent of your scars but I believe blood needs to be seen for collagen induction to take place. I could be wrong of course. That is just how I go with my own business. I do not stop until I see blood and it is working quite well as of this moment.

UPDATE: The last area I stamped is fully healed, no more swelling, red patches, needle marks. The shallow scars I had there have filled in by 90% and are now unnoticeable. It was already quite faded to begin with so there is really nothing significant here but to see this improvement is amazing to me. At least I know that this painful treatment I am doing is working. I took 2 days off from work starting tomorrow so I decided to stamp. This time I stamped the area I worked on the very first time and I stamped another area with tiny macules and a few very shallow scars. The areas are swollen/red as of now. I am treating it with just polysporine. I am very curious to see how derma stamp affects macules. I will report if I see any improvements. As for pictures, I apologize I keep stalling. I will post pictures the coming days. Bear with me.

Nice to hear it's going well. I'm wondering though, after your first procedure, did you notice any NEW scars that appeared or formed at all? Like new little tiny holes or something? Also did you bleed at all during your stamping? And lastly, If possible, could you actually post pictures of the area your stamping? Thanks and good luck!

Thanks! Actually, I know what you are talking about. Those are not scars. Those are just PIH that formed from the needles hitting the healthy skin. They are perfectly normal. Mine went away in about a day or 2. I made sure I bled during my stamping. Collagen won't be induced if there is no "injury" or bleeding. When you are stamping, always make sure the whole scar has been stamped. You will know that if a scab forms on the scar. That way when it is remodeling, the whole scar is affected not just a portion of it. I will post pictures soon.

I was wondering, can I still "injure" my skin even though I don't reach bleeding point? Instead of blood, it gets incredibly red.

No I don't think so. The only way collagen is induced is if there is injury in terms of blood which tricks the body into thinking that there is real injury. If the area just gets really red, there is really nothing that is happening. Good luck bud!

Nice to hear it's going well. I'm wondering though, after your first procedure, did you notice any NEW scars that appeared or formed at all? Like new little tiny holes or something? Also did you bleed at all during your stamping? And lastly, If possible, could you actually post pictures of the area your stamping? Thanks and good luck!

Thanks! Actually, I know what you are talking about. Those are not scars. Those are just PIH that formed from the needles hitting the healthy skin. They are perfectly normal. Mine went away in about a day or 2. I made sure I bled during my stamping. Collagen won't be induced if there is no "injury" or bleeding. When you are stamping, always make sure the whole scar has been stamped. You will know that if a scab forms on the scar. That way when it is remodeling, the whole scar is affected not just a portion of it. I will post pictures soon.

UPDATE: The area I stamped is progressing very well. Last night I got a little bit impatient so I stamped another area of my cheek. This area had 3 or 4 shallow pock marks. Same steps applied as the 1st. Took a shower, washed my face with spectro jel, stamped. I heard the popping/ripping sounds as well. The area of my skin is red right now but nothing major. To treat it, I consume vitamin A,C,E and apply polysporine on the area. I do not apply any topicals on the area until about 5-6 days or so. Everything's going well right now. I will try to stamp as much as I can this winter break to get maximum results. Thanks for following and feel free to send/ask me any questions/concerns that you might have! Happy holidays everyone!