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#3340194 Can Blood Tests For Accutane Detect If You're Taking Your Anti-Psychotics...

Posted by lostinthefog87 on 12 April 2013 - 03:57 AM

Stop comparing accutane to "everything else".  Its a cancer drug and it kills people.  I'm sorry but i'm just trying to warn you.  I have horrible acne, I mean, really...really bad.  But to risk having a psychotic break and killing myself?  Having major surgery to remove organs?  Growing bald permanently?  Never being able to have sex again?


Its your choice and I wish you good luck, but spend some time reading about it.  I think any doctor who prescribes someone like you Accutane should have their medical license revoked.  You are at great risk for having a very harmful psychiatric side effect.

#3338888 Can Blood Tests For Accutane Detect If You're Taking Your Anti-Psychotics...

Posted by lostinthefog87 on 06 April 2013 - 12:54 AM

You are certainly right about the medications for your emotional issues.  They do far more harm then good.  Dr Peter Breggin has a great book called Medication Madness I would recommend you read.  As someone who has been in the psychiatric system before, I feel your frustration, but we need a safe and rational voice versus labeling and toxic drug dispensing.  Breggin is the last psychiatrist on the planet who will tell it like it is.


As far as your question is concerned.... the blood tests they will ask for are designed to make sure you are taking birth control.  Thousands of babies in the 1990s were killed and aborted by women taking the drug.  It is law that doctors ensure this.  So of course they will know. There is no way of getting around it.  Detecting psych drugs?  Not sure....i'd be surprised if they made that a condition of you taking Accutane.  That seems pretty unlikely since only courts can do that sort of thing in regards to psychiatric medication.


But if you are about to take Accutane, birth control is the last thing you need to be worried about.


If you are someone who experiences depression, psychosis, anxiety, etc. I would very much question the doctor who is prescribing you a drug like Accutane.  It has been proven to cause suicide, depression, and worsen/cause panic attacks.  If that didn't scare you enough, the FDA has confirmed almost 200 cases of suicide that the direct cause was Accutane usage. These are just confirmed cases.  It is very difficult for the FDA to find that a drug caused a death directly (it hurts their image too). So I would multiply that number exponentially to get a more accurate amount.  


I know acne is hard.  Believe me....I know.  I have cystic acne and would not wish it on my worst enemy.  However, there are SO many other treatments out there other than the poison Accutane.  My advice to you would be to try anything and everything else and stay away from Accutane for life.  Although I am not a fan of prescriptions, get on some antibiotics if you have not tried that before.  Laser treatments, low GI diet, vitamins and supplements (zinc, niacinamide, etc.), are just a few of the many treatments becoming more recognized in the Dermatology field as significantly helpful to the management of acne.  Please don't take this the wrong way, I know how bad acne is.  But to risk death?  


I mean, all you have to do is look at acne.orgs Accutane horror stories.  Men who are 20 years old and can't get an erection.  Women who went bald, permanently.  Others who developed diabetes, irreversible depression, seizures, crying spells, permanent dry inner nose and lips that are impossible to treat, central nervous system disruption, tinnitus, etc.  Hundreds of threads and thousands of posts, many by veteran members with no motive except to save others.


But, if you don't trust what people say online (sometimes I don't and I just need the facts), look up the lawsuits, court cases, and FDA reports written about Accutane. They are easy to find.  The drug had to be pulled years ago because Roche lost every lawsuit that came their way. There were a group of DRs on the FDA (, yes the crooked FDA even) in the 1980's who tried very hard to get the FDA to pull it from the market completely due to its horrendous side effects.  You will get some on this board who say "oh, that's just fear talking.  These side effects are not common... I took Accutane and look at me, i'm fine".  Although some of those people may be accurate, much of Accutane's side effects occur months or years after taking the drug and never make it to the warning insert on the box stating odds of side effects.  These people dodged a bullet.  Please look this up online: Dr. Joseph Mercola, who is a physician, has some excellent information about the side effects and how Accutane effects the central nervous system, brain, etc.  His website is readily available through a google search.  


It's just not worth it when there are other treatments out there.   Hell, even if I had to deal with my severe acne the rest of my life and no treatment worked, I wouldn't take Accutane for a single day.....even if you paid me.  If you suffer some permanent disability like so many others have, you will wish you could just have bad acne. Certainly, for someone who has a history of depression and mental health issues, Accutane is something you must stay away from.  Even pro Accutane charlatans will agree, because the risks are too great with someone like you having a major psychiatric emergency.  Thats my two cents.  It is your body and you have a right to do with it what you will.  Good luck.

#3337005 Examples Of How Bad Our 'health' Care System Has Become

Posted by lostinthefog87 on 29 March 2013 - 03:13 AM

^ Excellent description.  I had similar talks with my mother's doctors as she recuperated from a stroke.  Although after arguing with them, they did change her medication a couple of times. Apparently they weren't married to all the crap they were prescribing. It's just this thing they do.


It's the same with veterinary care.  I recently took my brother's cat to the vet. He thought the cat was constipated. It turns out it was a urinary tract issue male cats often get.  They prescribed an antibiotic. I get home and look into it and find that cat urinary problems rarely have anything to do with bacteria.  It's about diet.  I looked up all kinds of home treatments some of which involve ACV, surprise, surprise. Plenty of people swear success with it.  And then there were plenty of other treatments I didn't look into.  The antibiotic cost $35. And I don't want it given to the cat.  


( I also happened to have misplaced it and I don't know where. I need to go look under the car seat. )


Also, my dog has had ear problems since I adopted him two or so years ago.  They gave me antibiotic ear drops which never got rid of the problem. I tried using the safflower oil I use on his skin since oil is a solvent for ear wax and antimicrobial. It helped as much as the vet stuff. At least he'd stop scratching for a while.  Then I found the enzyme based stuff recommended in a discussion forum, found it had lots of great reviews on Amazon, tried it. And he hasn't had a problem since.


I am so glad your dog and your brothers cat got better from safer and more rational treatments.  The problem I see is the fact that we live in a society so trusting of doctors and so untrusting of common sense, natural alternatives.  I have arguments with my mother who is constantly telling me to go to the Dermatologist, as if they have some magic information I have never heard before.  I have cured more ailments researching information myself then taking what a Dr. prescribes.  I've been to dermatologists more than 20 times and its the same thing, round of these antibiotics, prescription for that, etc.  It never lasts, and in the long run I become dependent on things that actually worsen my acne.  


For example, at this point, the only thing that remotely clears my cystic acne is topical antibiotics, which is the only prescription drug I am willing to take at this point for acne.  This wasn't the case 7 years ago before I began taking them.  BP used to clear me up well.  So now I am stuck with having to go on and off of the damn topical clindamycin because I have to go to work presentable, not to mention sleep at night.  I try and go months without the clindamycin, but my cysts eventually become so painful  I throw my hands up and say "F-it!", give me the damn antibiotic lotion...I just need the pain to stop!  Before I began seeing derms and taking prescribed meds, my acne was manageable, now its out of control and almost untreatable.  But where am I supposed to go when i'm in pain and I need to meet a client for my job?  There is nowhere else for me to go, natural Derms don't exist.....so I give in to the "treat the symptom" Doctors even though I know its bad for me.  I feel like all medicine is now somewhat like this, but Dermatology, much like Psychiatry....seems to be the worse.  They are very set in their methods of treatment of prescribing drugs exclusively with little practical advice.  They are unwilling to see things from another view.  Whatever happened to "first do no harm?"



I feel like a lot of people in the holistic forum, yourself included, would make great MD's or DO's.  I have thought about it myself.  My brother is an Orthopedic Surgeon and many of the women in my family are Nurses. I just doubt my ability to get through a med school program trying to defend positions that my peers and superiors would consider looney.  As if Med School wasn't hard enough!  It just seems like an uphill battle of constantly defending positions and being looked down upon.

#3336705 Examples Of How Bad Our 'health' Care System Has Become

Posted by lostinthefog87 on 27 March 2013 - 06:34 PM

The main reason I seldom see doctors anymore is because I find I am always paying for a debate.


I come in for a problem and they say "I am going to prescribe this to you, ok?.  

I say "i'm not really sure if I want to take that, i've heard of it causing A, B, and C"

Them "Don't read stories you hear on the internet, it's very safe"

Me:  "These aren't stories, I read them in medical journals"

Them: "Well, I don't know what you read but those side effects are extremely rare.  If you want to get rid of this, you must take this drug"

Me: "Isnt there anything I can do which does not involve this pill, anything natural or alternative, you know, non-systemic?"

Them:  *rolling eyes* "This is the gold standard of treatment, and I know of nothing out there that will help besides this drug, except maybe this other drug"

Me:  "I'll think about it and let you know"

Them "You're not going to take it?"

Me:  "I will let you know after I do some more research"



They then look at me with a state of complete shock on their face as if I have diabetes and I am refusing to take insulin


I walk out of the room and I know they are just shaking their head, writing me off as some conspiracy holistic nutjob.  Don't get me wrong, sometimes we all have to take medication for things but most MD's today are nothing but a bunch of paid lackeys and yes men for big pharma and if you, the lowly uneducated patient questions them, they really start squirming with frustration.