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#3448370 Derma-Rolling With Punch Floats And Punch Grafts

Posted by *Inspired* on 21 August 2014 - 11:15 PM

I do not know the best approach to treating scar texture and shallow scars. I am currently stamping. It is too early to see any results. I would have thought laser is the best approach to treating texture and shallow scars. I think it is great for softening scars, tightening, lifting to some degree and sanding down sharp edges. However it doesn't appear to have the ability to transform the texture of scars back to normal and can make enlarged pores more noticeable.

#3447871 Co2Re Laser Review

Posted by *Inspired* on 18 August 2014 - 05:49 PM

I don't know much about CO2RE but if your doctor used the highest settings for the depth stated, then it is equivalent to Active FX or MixTo. In other words, it is not a deep laser. You will likely experience softening to the surface area of your scars and overall skin tightening. I would be surprised if you notice much shallowing to your deeper ice picks because the laser simply couldn't have hit the base of those scars.

With one pass at that depth, you may not experience much hyperpigmentation. Your skin just might look slightly sun burned where the laser passed. Hard to say. I did not hyperpigment from Active FX. I did experience it where Deep FX was used. Active FX was also the most painful experience of my life while Deep FX was tolerable.

Good luck with healing. I hope you experience a good level of improvement.

#3441156 Tightening Skin

Posted by *Inspired* on 13 July 2014 - 01:50 PM

Wow, sorry that happened.    Every time I think I've seen and heard it all, I'm just dumbfounded by people's capacity for cruelty.  

Uh, I think it depends on what were the intentions of that person.
Maybe that picture was supposed to be an allusion, like, "hey, look how good can you look w/o scars. You just have to do something about it".
A lot of people have absolutely no knowledge of how to treat acne scarring. I mean, why would anyone with great skin research scar treatments? They think that a simple procedure or one laser treatment will make your problem go away, unfortunately they are terribly mistaken.
It's normal (I speak from personal experience) and I wouldn't care much about it. Unless the intention was to make you feel like crap, in that case I agree with cutting such person off.

Sorry I disagree. That is like photoshopping a photo of someone overweight and saying you would look great skinny. Go on a diet. How do you know that person doesn't have a medical condition and can't lose weight? Or, why not photoshop a picture of a bald friend and say I hear you can get hair surgically added today. Saw it on TV. I would never point out someome's physical flaws and tell them to do something about it. I do not need superficial friends like that. If I did not confide in you about my insecurities and flaws, what would make you think it is okay to point them out and worse, why in the world would you be researching a way to fix my skin condition. Believe me, scar sufferers are clearly aware of their scars and disfigurement. Don't need a so-called friend pointing it out.

In some cultures, this might be okay. Where I am from, you'd be completely out of line. Mind your own business and focus on your own problems.

#3441116 Tightening Skin

Posted by *Inspired* on 13 July 2014 - 09:16 AM

i've been through so much hell now that i am 37 i don't even feel normal anymore ...i think it has messed up my head so much i can never go back

Sorry to hear you are down. I have been through a lot in life as well. I try to look at it as a blessing in disguise and force myself to keep moving forward. A couple years ago, I started cutting out negative people from my life and putting my needs first. It was difficult at the time but looking back, I am happy I made a positive change. You deserve better and should allow yourself to have it.

Also don't take my advice on returning the favor with a photoshopped image. If I were you, I would definitely think about it but I wouldn't do it. I would say something equally cruel though before cutting the person off. At times people don't realize they are being insensitive until the roles are reversed.

#3441062 Tightening Skin

Posted by *Inspired* on 12 July 2014 - 08:47 PM

i posted a pic of myself on fb and someone i know took the pic photoshopped it where u couldn't see the scars then sent it to me ...isn't that like such a low blow?

If that happened to me, that person would no longer be a friend. I don't need people like that in my life. If the person is fat, bald or something else, I'd return the favor -- Photoshop a picture, post it on his/her timeline and then de-friend.

I have had people make rude comments about my skin and I am always quick to point  out a flaw in return. It has never gone over well.

#3440717 My Total Fx Diary - Procedure Scheduled For 12/04/12 - Updates To Follow

Posted by *Inspired* on 10 July 2014 - 10:13 PM

I did a Google search on Intracel last night and realized Japan was one of the first countries to offer it. A couple Japanese studies were released around 2009 and the after photos were really unimpressive. In fact, a couple people with acne scarring looked worse. If you search this forum with Google, you can find the old threads. I thought Intracel sounded familiar and now I recall why. At one point, I did consider it but the results on acne scarring simply couldn't compare to laser. Now that I am more focused on texture, I will have to research it again. Oddly I can't seem to find a clinic offering it in Japan now but I didn't search extensively. It was offered a few years ago and there was a lot of hype around it. I wonder if the technology has improved. Either way, fractional co2/Total FX and Dermapen are popular in Japan right now. Compared to the USA, Total FX is pretty inexpensive in Japan, and Dermapen costs as much as Total FX. I thought that was interesting. Maybe they base it more on time than overhead cost.

Not sure how you can say laser doesn't work. I have had incredible improvement from laser and don't believe any other treatment could have provided me the same results in under two years and three treatments. My skin isn't perfect but I know it never will be.

Being that my pores are caused by genetics, I am not sure I could get any permanent improvement to them. Never know though.

#3440430 My Total Fx Diary - Procedure Scheduled For 12/04/12 - Updates To Follow

Posted by *Inspired* on 09 July 2014 - 03:33 PM

Hey CherrySoda,

Call me a skeptic. 2012 wasn't that long ago and being someone who has done business on the Internet for 15+ years, I know it is not unusual to start planting seeds one to two years before a business launches. There is a planning phase to finding the right product and to ensuring your product is successful at launch. Her skin sure improved quickly over a year's time and she managed to create quite a following using social channels. Her story could be legitimate but at this point, she is clearly focused on marketing and selling her products. I don't believe she suddenly partnered with a doctor and researched/developed a packaged product line in under a year. These things take time.

I think I sent you the link at FB but I closed my FB account. I will send it again via private message here in a bit.

Sorry to hear your dermatologist moved away. :( She sounded like a good doctor. Is she practicing dermatology in Vegas? If so, I might pay her a visit. My dad lives in Vegas and I have yet to find a doctor that does punch grafts. I have a few scars that I think could benefit from grafts.

Looking at your photos, I think my skin looks much worse. My right cheek is actually covered in shallow pock marks. You can't see them in pictures. The shallow marks give it a strange texture. It's really noticeable in certain lighting. I wish there was something I could do about it but I may be stuck with the ugly texture. Of course, I am hoping stamping will help smooth things out.

I don't know if I am willing to continually stamp forever. I don't particularly enjoy mutilating my face with needles. It is actually quite humbling to needle your face until it is covered in blood while hoping it will cause your skin to look semi-normal in the public's eyes. I think I am more likely to reach acceptance than continue putting myself through this. I have had amazing improvement and at some point, I have to accept that my skin will never be perfect.

#3440280 Tightening Skin

Posted by *Inspired* on 08 July 2014 - 11:53 PM

I agree with everything Blahblah said about Sculptra. Do your research on horror stories and don't even risk it. I do not remember Sculptra's old brand name but you can probably figure it out via a Google search. I would look it up but I am on my phone.

You are far too young for a facelift, Rob, and the sagging isn't that noticeable. I wouldn't have noticed it if you didn't point it out. I have sagging skin too and consider it a part of aging. Going under the knife carries the risk of irreversible damage as well.

I vote for a few aggressive sessions of professional subcision and a safe HA filler, something that doesn't have the potential to create permanent raised scarring with a foreign material embedded in your skin. I question the ethics of any doctor who recommends Sculptra or silicone.

#3440198 My Total Fx Diary - Procedure Scheduled For 12/04/12 - Updates To Follow

Posted by *Inspired* on 08 July 2014 - 04:50 PM

Any updates from your adventures in derma-stamping, *Inspired*?

I understand your concerns with reversing improvement you have received to date. Personally, I think stamping is pretty low risk. I have experienced zero downtime from stamping and look normal a few hours later. I applied 20% vitamin C after my last stamping session and it burned. I experienced PIH on my scars for a few days, so I won't be doing that again. I used 10% previously and did not experience the same side-effects.


Hey CherrySoda,


Sorry for not getting back to you on your other post. I think Daisy is a perfect example of the lack of unbiased dermarolling evidence out there. For one thing, I don't think she ever suffered from atrophic acne scars like us. In her before pictures, she appears to have severe acne and hyperpigmentation. Her skin is clearly inflamed. It's also impossible to evaluate her scarring with a video. The quality is much lower than photos. The lighting in her marketing video is also done to conceal any possible defects with her skin. Even people with severe scarring would like great in bright studio lighting over video. I also don't think the length of her rollers will do much for true acne scars. With that said, I don't have much of an opinion on her experience as she's clearly motivated by selling her own products at this point. 


So far, I have not noticed any improvement from stamping. My scars look a little smoother for 1-2 weeks after stamping but the results have not been permanent so far. I really don't think I'm being aggressive enough with stamping. If I were to stamp thoroughly every 2-3 weeks, I think my skin would look greatly improved but I fear the results would last as long as I continued stamping. Of course, I hope that's not the case but I'm not convinced stamping produces permanent results at this point.


It's been 6 weeks since I last stamped. I plan to do my 4th session this week. As always, I remain hopeful and will let you know if I notice any change to my scars.


I think your skin looks great. I'm not sure I would stamp the raised grafts. I would think this could cause your body to produce more new collagen. In your case, I think I'd wait until you've found a way to smooth out those spots.


As for the Japanese lady's blog, I sent you the link before by private message. I can't seem to find the link right now but once I find it, I will send it again.


Hope you're well, and don't worry about hijacking my thread. Hijack away! smile.png

#3438596 Question About Tethered Scars

Posted by *Inspired* on 29 June 2014 - 11:07 PM

Tissue loss includes collagen and everything else that makes up tissue. Scars are made up of collagen too but it is a different type. As a result, I don't really know how to answer your question.

I have no idea if stamping can magically regenerate a chunk of missing tissue. Based on my research, stamping is good for texture, topical penetration, tightening and shallow scarring. If your indents are deep, I honestly don't think stamping can correct that kind of damage. For example, if you cut off the tip of your pinky and as a result lose tissue, I don't believe needling the missing chunk will make it reappear. As another example, if you tried liposuction and too much fat was extracted from one spot, creating a dimple (tissue loss), I don't see how stamping could cause the lost fat to regenerate. I would think a fat transfer or filler would be needed to fill the void.

Untethered tissue loss is best resolved with a filler.

If your scarring is still new, I would give your body a chance to heal naturally. It is possible it will recover without any tissue loss.

Sorry if this doesn't help.

#3437956 Treating Very Severe Scarring

Posted by *Inspired* on 25 June 2014 - 11:48 PM

Finding the right doctor and treatment can be a journey in itself. I highly recommend that you take your time and do your research using professional opinions, patient reviews and credible studies. I think you are off to a great start. Multiple professional opinions will help you make the right decision for you. Don't rush the process or make a decision in haste. Always remember that "cosmetic" doctors are also in a business to make money. I find the number of detailed reviews for Rahimi on Realself and Yelp highly suspect as they all began to suddenly appear in the same detailed fashion on a pretty predictable schedule over the last 2+ years and they all followed DRAGZ post on this forum.  I think it is highly unfortunate too because I do think Rahimi has the skills and experience to help scar sufferers with proven techniques. Unless he is simply chasing the mighty dollar at this point, I don't understand why he would recommend a temporary "lifting" treatment to someone who suffers from facial scars. I am actually upset by it because I know what it is like to spend $1000s on a procedure that can't provide any permanent improvement to atrophic scars. I also know what it is like to end up with further damage. Collagen remodeling will happen with any facial procedure. Procedures can produce positive, negative and no results during the remodeling phase.

If Ultherapy turns out to be another Thermage, there is a chance you could experience additional fat loss down the road.   A doctor's skills and experience are irrelevant when a device so new, no one truly knows the longterm effects.

#3434966 My Total Fx Diary - Procedure Scheduled For 12/04/12 - Updates To Follow

Posted by *Inspired* on 05 June 2014 - 03:23 PM


Just wanted to post some updated photos that I took outside a month or two ago.
I must say -- laser can lead to improvement. I do have one dark pitted scar on my left cheek that seems resistant to treatment.
I am demastamping now with the hope of smoothing my skin texture. Pretty sure I am done with laser.
Sorry, I don't know why the forum shrinks my images. Will update my gallery later.

Looking great, *Inspired*! How long have you been stamping for?
Also, what is the total number of laser treatments you've had?

Hey CherrySoda!
I started stamping in early April. Other than my scars looking softer for 1-2 weeks after stamping, I can't say I have any noticeable improvement from it yet but I understand it takes time.
I have done three laser treatments. One spot treatment with Deep FX and two Total FX procedures over my entire scarred area.
I wish I could find a doctor to do punch grafts, like you. Might have more success fixing the texture of my scars that way. I am not sure though.
I think punch grafts and excisions are great for filling up the holes left by ice pick (which is what I mostly had, and still have in some areas) and boxcar scars. 
The holes where the ice pick scars used to be on my cheeks look filled-in, however, they don't look as even as I wish they did. The Blue peels I had over a year ago helped with skin tone and texture, but I know there's only so much a peel can do. Also, there are two rolling scars on my left cheek that I want evened out. Rolling or stamping one method I've considered to remedy the uneven texture I have in my left cheek.
Where did you get your research from when you decided to look into stamping? Where did you purchase your dermastamp, and why did you choose that over dermarolling?
Also, weren't you afraid to use the dermastamp after having laser? Didn't you worry about undoing some of the work the lasers did to repair your scarring?
Honestly, I am a little afraid to mess up some of the work that I've gotten since 2011. I'm sure I'm not alone in this fear, which is why I'm asking so many questions. That, and I want to learn about this as much as possible before I make a decision on whether or not to roll or stamp.

I understand your concerns with reversing improvement you have received to date. Personally, I think stamping is pretty low risk. I have experienced zero downtime from stamping and look normal a few hours later. I applied 20% vitamin C after my last stamping session and it burned. I experienced PIH on my scars for a few days, so I won't be doing that again. I used 10% previously and did not experience the same side-effects.

There isn't a whole lot of unbiased scientific research out there on microneedling. I based my decision to try stamping on people's personal experiences and the fact that I can't see it creating more damage as long as you are conservative in your approach. I feel there is a risk to tearing your skin and causing additional damage using a roller. The roller also doesn't allow you to target specific scars like the stamp. I have also read on numerous threads that the stamp is less painful. As a result, I chose the stamp over the roller.

I purchased my stamp off of a Japanese auction site. As far as I can tell, every online retailer sources their stamps from the same Chinese manufacturers. With that said, I didn't see a difference between buying from an auction site or OwnDoc. The stamps are still Chinese knock-offs and likely sourced from the same companies off of Alibaba. I considered buying an electronic Dermapen device but I am honestly too scared to try it. Being that the device costs over $1000, I decided to hold off until I am semi-confident with my ability to use it without causing further damage. I probably won't ever reach that point.

Based on my experience so far, I don't quite understand how the dermastamp can permanently smooth texture as you are only needling a fraction of the scarred area. I guess (hope) the results are cumulative over an extended period of many sessions. I plan to try this for a year to see if I experience any noticeable improvement.

I am not sure stamping works on tethered rolling scars. Have you seen any evidence of it working on them? I wish I could find some good studies with photos on dermastamping and acne scars. I think I have been mainly inspired by a Japanese lady's blog and a few scattered posts I have found on the Internet. The Japanese lady's blog is the most impressive though because she has been treating her scars for over a decade and provides detailed photos and frequent updates. She has had amazing improvement to pitted scars and texture but it has definitely taken years of persistence and discipline.  I think I may actually try the human growth factors that she recommends when I stamp again in a few weeks.

#3431715 Advice For My Scars- Pics Included

Posted by *Inspired* on 15 May 2014 - 12:45 AM

For your type of scarring, which is very similar to how mine looked (see my gallery), I would go with fractional co2 laser and then dermastamping. I don't recommend wasting your time with peels as I have never received any permanent improvement from them. I don't see why you would need acutane and think you might actually benefit from antibiotics and Retin-a. If it is hormonal, they may be able to get it under control with birth control or another prescription. You really should see a dermatologist. You may be kicking yourself in a year or two if you don't because permanent scarring can get so much worse quickly. At this point, your scars aren't bad but you have only experienced acne for a year. Imagine where you could be in another year if it is not properly treated.

#3429926 Small Red Hole/scare From Acne?

Posted by *Inspired* on 03 May 2014 - 11:37 PM

Unfortuately it is impossible to know if the hole will remain. No one can predict how your skin will heal. Personally I would only use neosporin to prevent infection while the skin is broken. Otherwise I would keep it moisturized and use Vitamin C serum, plus a good sunblock with Titanium Dioxide and Zinc Oxide. Taking supplements like Zinc. and Vitamin C are helpful. The redness will definitely fade in time. The hole or divot should also improve as the area heals. Be gentle with your skin by not picking or rubbing the area and the chance of permanent scarring will be lessened. Vitamin E and Aloe have never prevented scars for me, and I used to apply both. I used to apply aloe directly from the plant and unfortunately it didn't prevent scars. If you don't normally scar and the divot was caused by a normal pimple that wasn't cystic,  didn't become infected and was not picked, then it should heal fine over time.

#3429787 Massage For Indented Scarring

Posted by *Inspired* on 02 May 2014 - 11:09 PM

To each his own folks. Go on and massage them bad boys! What can it honestly hurt?
It's a shame you people can't all just get along. This is a support group and call me crazy.. but I'm sensing a lack of this here.
Ah well rolleyes.gif Good luck on you journey.

I think this board is a great support group. When a member suggests a method that can be harmful or counterproductive, I hope some of the knowledgeable members  will speak up. If massaging a hypertrophic scar can help break down collagen, making a raised scar more aesthetically appealing, imagine what that does to a scar that's indented and has already lost collagen and tissue.

I think you were being incredibly judgmental on a subject you may not understand. 1000s of lurkers read this board. Why would a group that feels passionately about finding safe methods of scar improvement encourage potentially harmful behavior? How is that helpful?