londoncat8

everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

What evidence is that?? I have evidence to prove it was  a safe cure for my horrible acne. I am type 1 diabetic and risked it and it  was worth it at the end! You will be biased and wrong to tell people it is poison. If you do not let the other side speak on this thread then truth will never find its way here....it will be all biased lies.

Lucky for you! Since you already had type 1 diabetes there wasn't much to risk in that aspect! Accutane caused my Type 1 and No it is not Normal to develop suddenly at 35....

Anyways, It's the same old thing...Thoose who are new to Accutane or had a good experince will praise, thoose damaged will not, then there is thoose who praise it and get damaged and have a change of heart....Then there are thoose that say take the adivice of your derm, but if you get f**cked up then you should of listened to your own body blah blah blah...etc..... Point is it's dangerous drug Roche states that themselves and it is missued by derms all the time. It Russian Roulette!

Well, I am very sorry to hear you got type 1 and I hope you are coping with it well. I knew what I could get(still might) after taking accutane....it can be MS, IBS, Crohn's you name it... I guess I can still lose all my hair etc.... But, I made an informed decision to take accutane. Even if I do get another problem I would not regret taking it. You might wonder why and I can tell you- I did not want to live with what I had on my face, head and back. I considered and attempted suicide because I have been spat on the streets by adults and abused verbally by teenagers  for the most of my life.... We are not talking acne that is moderate we are talking acne that is severe and never healing(maybe, partially due to diabetes). So, I thought if I can have even 6 months of clear skin in the whole of my life I would still take it....just to know for 6 months what it feels to have clear skin. I do not care if it comes back but I do enjoy every day from the time my acne cleared and I am happy now. Whatever the price I have to pay, I am ready for it, my life was never easy and I risked it, and it is still a risk, but I live the most wonderful days of my life at the moment. I knew what it can do to me and I still took it. There would be no surprises and disappointment because I believe I can win. I know what it is to be in coma several times so I have nothing to lose...and maybe a world to gain. For my it was worth it.

everyone on accutane is aware of what they are taking. we are essentially poisoning ourselves on purpose to cure our acne. the common side effects are short term, and last a little over the length of the course. the much rarer, more serious side effects, or just that... much rarer.

we are all taking risks taking this drug in the hope of giving ourselves a better quality of life. nobody takes the decision lightly, and scaremongering and uneducated fact slinging is insulting to everyone who is going through, or has gone through their treatment. nobody takes the decision to go accutane lightly, and for most, there is no other choice.

people can copy and paste facts from uncited websites and think they are discovering something that 30 years of proffessional research into the drug cannot find if they want, but keep it to yourselves until your speculative theories are factual.

You have no right to tell anybody that they need more substantial evidence to support the fact that accutane is dangerous and shouldn't be prescribed. All my evidence is from experience. All the others that I have managed to talk to have shared nothing positive about accutane. If you don't agree with this thread then you don't have to post. Please don't troll this thread when it was created out of good intentions to help people.

What evidence is that?? I have evidence to prove it was  a safe cure for my horrible acne. I am type 1 diabetic and risked it and it  was worth it at the end! You will be biased and wrong to tell people it is poison. If you do not let the other side speak on this thread then truth will never find its way here....it will be all biased lies.

I took accutane and it worked great for me. 3 members of my family took accutane in 80s they are still alive, free of acne, have children and none of them suffered scary side effects. After 20 years of fighting acne with topicals, antibiotics, vegetarian diet etc the only thing that made my skin look good was accutane. I guess writing about it just made me sale representative and a liar, hahaha

You sound like an idiot not knowing the umbrella terms of your own theories.

I'm going to be blunt. The outer influences of my depression and mental illness were caused by years of physical abuse (beaten with belts to the point of scarring), sexual abuse starting from my toddler years, and an unending line of blame from the adults in my life when I finally was able to confront it. It scarred me, mentally, physically, emotionally. It has been my personal crucible - and one in which I have nearly died, several times over, in recovering from. These are not light offenses that were committed and they have greatly contributed to my depression.

Do I blame that? Fuck yes, I do. To deny that it should have any impact on me as an adult would be DENIAL - and that, my friend, is exactly what landed those sick fuckers who hurt me in the place where they abused me. I will not be them. I will be brave and I will feel the pain, over and over and over again, as long as I live - because it hurts and because I am honest that it hurts.

Your ramblings of "comparisons" and "detachment" would only lead to me stuffing my feelings - to which, btw, I tried, too. I nearly killed myself AGAIN with a drug addiction that claimed every cell of my entire body for years. Pretending that it didn't hurt anymore in order to "be past it" was a failed - and dangerous - idea.

The main reason people suffer is because they hurt. Human beings HURT. It is part of who we are. It is part of what we do. We have an entire range of emotions - to cut out one simply because it's a "higher conciseness" is to deny who you are -

and that's human. I will NEVER be knocked down from that again. And I will be DAMNDED if I let those on this board feel as if they are being told that they need to deny it, too.

I don't believe in Karma. If I did, I'd believe that I brought on every single awful event visited to me as a child - and I didn't. The laws of attraction are bullshit in that it doesn't explain trauma, it doesn't explain abuse, it doesn't explain the trainwreck that human interaction often is. I have no patience for that line of thinking, nor for anything that leads along it.

I lost my father. I lost my mother. I lost so many of them through realizing that they were not safe. Am I destroying myself now because of those losses? No. Does it hurt? Yes. Will it always hurt? Yes. That's not "unhealthy", that's recognizing the importance and pull that family has on us. And THAT'S important.

The important thing is that I'm not dying anymore. But that does not defeat or minimize what it took to get here and what it takes to stay here. Saying "You don't have anything worth feeling that way about because it doesn't matter anyways!" is a bitchy and mean thing to say, even unintentionally.

Your way requires a complete denial of the grieving process - and even more dangerously, denies any need to do any work on healing outside of a simple "mental shift." That's dangerous. That's demeaning.

It's a great affront to many of us.

I would call it spirituality. That's the most simplest and meaningful name. I see it as truth, a truth in every existence  but again it simply is a label of name. It wouldn't matter, see it and experience it yourself. There is NOT a one name I can easily describe all of this as, I could call it hindiusm? Buddhism? perhaps part of christianity (considering it isn't edited), taoism, and lot more. I do not know one true name, but they all share a very common belief. So I call it the truth, like Buddha did.

Buddha himself has went through much worse suffering than me you and most of us went. His story isn't just that "he escaped from his own family, and mediated under a tree". He would even eat just to keep himself alive, not for any other reason. Beyond what we see it as suffering, and he saw light, and claimed it and he only wanted to share and teach everyone the truth to happiness.
I will let few things pass, and get straight to the point.

People suffer because we are HURT. Physical hurt - where if reaches its maximium point we die, (car accident an example). I can have my bones broken and still live a happy life. Anyone can, and Buddha emphasized that enlightenment can be found under every circumstance (as long as you are conscious, because for depression and anger to exist, it must have a reasoning a past experience and memory), that is even if you have a disease. A physical pain doesn't not trigger anger, it doesn't trigger depression, it only triggers a physical sensation.

Anger, depression and such can be triggered if one makes attachment to other beliefs, for example blame whatever that they think was responsible for their disease, because in a sense they are denying what is now, and clings to perfect health. Not everyone can have perfect health, people are dying and are suffering from diseases  throughout the world. That is life, and it has much possibilities. Why cling, desire and expect something to make it a core piece that makes up your security and stability.
By dillusion and illusion it is that, not realizing the truth.

It is not who we are, we really are nothing really. Truly a consciousness is formless, timeless, and nameless. That is us pure.
You are not considering the amount of media, and parent to child contact, they shape our mind from birth. Simple examples are (Look, sarah thats a pig, a pretty cute one, but run away from the spider it is ugly, or .... don't do that, that is right, that is wrong.., we have high expectations from you" such common quotes you would hear from parents.
If you see it all, you can actually see it shaping them from the start. Look at the world today, much wars, and suffering, competing for success. Selfishness, ego, and which all have been shaped by the society.

"And I will be DAMNDED if I let those on this board feel as if they are being told that they need to deny it, too."
Example of frustration and anger manifesting from attachment of desiring everyone to behave or believe one state. Let go, it's pointless, trust me, I've went through it all, I've experienced it, now that I look at it, I can see how stupid I was.

LoA is pointless, it can only bring more suffering, I've been there felt that. In reality, a happiness can not be found by having something, being something or being somewhere. True one can NEVER be like that. People believe the opposite, and that is a delusion.
You are free to believe anything you want, after all it is your life. These are your words, your thoughts, its all yours. In the end, would everything you've accomplished, did matter at all? It never will, every existence is temporary, even the memories and thoughts of every humanity on earth.
In this temporary existence, spread love, show compassion to those who are on the same road as you. If there is point, then that is the point, happiness and realizing the truth.  You may not resonate with what I am saying at the moment, but that is alright.

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I lost my father. I lost my mother. I lost so many of them through realizing that they were not safe. Am I destroying myself now because of those losses? No. Does it hurt? Yes. Will it always hurt? Yes. That's not "unhealthy", that's recognizing the importance and pull that family has on us. And THAT'S important.
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Do you suffer? do you feel loved? but again, it is your life, you'll find it yourself, everything you need to find it is all already there. There is nothing that is important, only importance is happiness and love. You are thought to believe something is important by the media, or the society.

If you think it has anything to do with denial, you have got it wrong from the beginning. It is the opposite of denial, it is facing then realizing. I've been saying so much that it's not escaping or resisting against it.
What healing do you need to do outside? Your mind, your consciousness, in other words YOU are inside. Your happiness, your emotions, are all inside. The have no effect on you, until you are involved.

If you mean your physical body, then through de-attachment you wouldn't be addicted to drugs, smoking, alcohol, junk food, or any other things that keep our senses at pleasure...
I think that is far important for critical health than anything else.

I know that it's hard for you to quit them, or that your life would feel boring and plain. It would make you feel dead, in a sense. Without your ego, you are nothing.
I thought of that too, it's nothing like that. It's pure bliss of love all the time.

Well, I've said lot I could, I feel saying beyond this would be somewhat pointless and repetitive, considering the belief and the understanding of the other side is different.  If you are in need of anything else. Google and research is your friend, I am sure you know what to search for.
You may find lot of others who are aware in this topic, they could answer for you. I am just one of the few on acne.org.
Good luck!

it was all just said by a machine, robot...something else....hardly human...!!

I concentrate on my hobbies and passions that do not require interaction with people and being looked at:) I excel at piano playing, painting, jewellery and dress making..... and all of these make me happy and no one else needs to look at me while I do it. I mastered  the skills and enjoy them rather than being depressed looking in the mirror. We are much more than the condition of our skin.