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dieffenbachia

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In Topic: The Good List: Non-Comedogenic Ingredients And Products

04 December 2012 - 05:10 PM

Also according to the master comedogenic list, this could be a good and cheap cleanser:

Simple Kind To Skin Pore Minimising Toning Cleanser
Aqua, Butylene Glycol, PEG-20 Glyceryl Laurate, Carbomer, Panthenol,Sodium PCA, Sodium Methylparaben, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate,Tetrahydroxypropyl Ethylenediamine, Tocopheryl Acetate,Benzophenone-4, Hamamelis Virginiana Distillate (witch hazel), Dipropylene Glycol,Pantolactone, Methylparaben, Anthemis Nobilis Oil (Roman chamomile), Pelargonium Graveolens Oil (Geranium oil), Citric Acid


And this a cheap and non-comedogenic

Simple Kind To Skin Moisture Boost Hydro Cream

Aqua, Paraffinum Liquidum (mineral oil), Petrolatum, Glycerin, Ethylhexyl Methoxycinnamate, Caprylic/Capric Triglyceride, Tetrahydroxypropyl Ethylenediamine, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Phenoxyethanol,Carbomer, Panthenol, Sucrose Laurate , Tocopheryl Acetate,Methylparaben, 4-Methylbenzylidene Camphor, Disodium EDTA,Propylene Glycol, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben,Lecithin, Propylparaben, Sodium Citrate, Pantolactone, Sorbic Acid,BHT, Nelumbium Speciosum Flower Extract (lotus flower) , Citric Acid

In Topic: The Good List: Non-Comedogenic Ingredients And Products

04 December 2012 - 04:20 PM

One question.. In the Master comedogenic ingredients list, it states that Sodium chloride (salt) is 5 : 0-3.. and in that initial list some of the products with sodium chloride are highlighted red for bad, and others were not that also contained sodium chloride... and then also, a number of these 100% Non-Comedogenic products have sodium chloride in them. So my question is, why do some products get a pass for having sodium chloride in them and others do not?

Thanks.


Unfortunately, Greengables has retired. I also noticed that the first product contains Cetearyl Alcohol which is mildly comedogenic in the master list (=2) and Dan gives it a 4 in his list (http://www.acne.org/acne-products-guide.html).
The list is pretty comprehensive anyhow so I think just go with your own instincts and avoid if necessary. I want to try and avoid the cetearyl alcohol so I'm not going to use the first product.

Update on ingredients:

Simple Refreshing Facial Wash Gel

Aqua, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Propylene Glycol, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Sodium Chloride, Panthenol, Disodium EDTA, Sodium Hydroxymethylglycinate, Sodium Hydroxide

In Topic: Best Course Of Action?

14 January 2012 - 10:16 AM

try to avoid mechanical scrubs if you can (i.e. the abrasive ones) and switch to a chemical exfoliator (I think DermE do a BHA/AHA lotion and Paula's choice do one).

For me I used a salicylic acid containing face wash (for years I used Acnisal which can be bought through a pharmacy off prescription). Then apply a salicylic acid or beta-hydroxy acid containing liquid or toner. This increases the effectiveness of the BP which I would apply next and then a light moisturiser containing ideally 1.0% salicylic acid.
I've heard good things about Neutrogena's Clean and clear range (not used it myself) and look on the treatments page of this site for other cleansers and moisturisers.

Some ingredients you want to look out for in your cleanser/moisturiser:
Salicylic acid
beta or alpha-hydroxy acid
BP

AVOID: isopropyl myristate, lanolin, rosehip seed oil (this makes me break out)

Fragrances added into some of the brand formulas have made me break out in the past so I've avoided these.

With panoxyl it can cause redness itself but BP products are very effective on active acne. I also find that sudocrem dabbed on to the spot is also very very good and is super great if one accidentally pops! I would recommend the tube rather than the tub of it because the tube is more hygienic. Try to avoid touching, picking or squeezing. If a spot pops by accident, clean the area with a clean tissue/cotton wool pad, and in my opinion I think sudocrem is about the best of the healing creams.

If you;re concerned about harsh chemicals, a'kin (you can find this in big holland and barretts stores) do a good range of products with naturally derived ingredients.

Also I'm writing this as a personal recommendation, I'm not a doctor nor am I a pharmacist so if you are really concerned, ask a pharmacist what they recommend.

There's a great community here so there will be something that someone will recommend that you will find effective. Good luck!

In Topic: Retin A 0.025% Log

10 January 2012 - 11:39 AM

Happy New Year N.Clare! and everyone else following your thread....
I hope you managed to have a fun time with your mates for NYE Posted Image

It certainly looks like your active acne has basically disappeared from your most recent two photos (compared with the 9th december two) - excellent! It looks like you have some hyperpigmentation which is the majority of the redness and even in your 9th december pictures I can only make out 4-5 active inflammatory acne lesions in total....I can't see any in your recent photos.

I completely sympathesise and it's so horrible to go through this....I'm not entirely sure about retin-a as I've not used this precise formulation before so I can't offer any personal advice on whether to keep persevering or give up. Though what I would advise is speaking to a dermatologist about your experience on retin-a because they may be able to offer a more objective opinion.
Instead of a personal account, I went and did a bit of a literature search on the efficacy of tretinoin in scientific publications and here is waht I found (not an exhaustive or particularly systematic review, just one paper!):

According to a random controlled trial with blinding of researchers and patients to treatment groups, the patients on retin-a compared to just the vehicle cream (the delivery cream without retin-a) experienced adverse side effects up to and including 84 days (and possibly longer, though the study only lasted 12 weeks). The side effects that lasted this long were dryness (statistically significant elevated dryness), peeling and itching. Redness, tightness and burning seemed to die down within the first 2 weeks-month.
Improvements to acne? Well the study revealed that non-inflammatory acne lesions (blackheads and whiteheads) improved the most but it was only by week 12 that there were significant improvements in the inflammatory acne lesions . Up until the 3 month mark, there was no real difference between the retin-a and the delivery cream.
(Double-blind, vehicle-controlled, multicenter comparison of two 0.025% tretinoin creams in patients with acne vulgaris, JAAD 1998)

So this is one study but clearly it takes a long time for retin-a to show improvements. Also not everyone will respond positively to retinoids so it is worth going back to your doctor and stating your case because if you haven't seen improvements at month 4 they may suggest you try something else.

Certain formulations of BP and tretinoin may result in the oxidation and inactivation of tretinoin so it is worth asking your dermatologist about this.

Have you spoken to your doctor about the benefits of niacinamide? It's meant to be quite effective for mild to moderate inflammatory acne. Plus it is meant to be helpful for hyperpigmentation.

The reason I mention this is that a) a lot of your colouration appears to be hyperpigmentation, b) I have noticed (subjective) benefit of pigment lightening by using Paula's Choice Resist anti-aging hydrator (not for anti-aging properties but for the anti-acne properties) which contains niacinamide. I read a fair amount of literature and basically in the trials performed niacinamide at 4% and 10% have a significant impact on inflammatory acne and has had significant resutls with pigmentation.

Niacinamide is a derivative of niacin (aka vitamin B3) and is being added to all sorts of anti-aging cosmetics because of its reduction of pigmentation properties (olay regenerist for example use it) and its anti-inflammatory properties.

I have just started myself on a chemically available gel: Nicam gel 4% nicotinamide (aka niacinamide) to see what an impact it has on my acne and on the healing of cyst pigmentations so will update my profile with pictures. You can get this prescribed or over the counter (£13).

Plus it doesn't seem to have any contraindications with tretinoin (if concerned about this, you could just use it in the evening when not using the tretinoin).

Keep going though, hon, you will come out of the woods...your pre-retin-a skin will come back but seek professional dermatological advice before changing medication (if possible). SHow them your photos as well if you think it may help inform their decisions.

In Topic: Retin A 0.025% Log

24 December 2011 - 07:18 PM

Merry Christmas people! Fantastic with the smoking! Keep it up! Woop di woop.


Yes good luck to you too! I just had a really rough night actually.
My sister is visiting for xmas at the moment. I havent seen that much of her since I started on retinoids. I came downstairs after a shower, when my red marks can look a little worse and with no make up... She looked at my face as was like "Oh God, have you been picking at your face? that looks so sore.... awww"  I just wanted to burst into tears... I know how bad it looks I just dont really need others making me feel anymore aware or self-conscious about it! I was meant to be meeting up with some friends but I just couldnt face going out, I stayed in and cried about it... what a dickhead (myself not my sister).


Argh! family! Although she wasn't trying to be mean, a bit of sensitivity wouldn't have hurt?! Couldn't agree more with Paul, quite often it might feel like the best thing to do is to hide but then you can spend the time dwelling on your skin. Conversely, if you're out with your mates, you will likely forget about it! Though totally know it's sooooooo difficult to pick yourself up from a putdown (even unmeant) in one day. I dunno if it will help to know this, but I had really bad acne with a lot of inflammation and redness but this lasted, at most, a year. Since then it has only improved, to the point now where people cannot tell I had an acne problem. I can wholeheartedly promise you that this is just a bad skin period and it will finish!
Go pamper yourself the next time you feel knocked down: I like to have a warm bath and then put on some luscious body moisturiser and then watch a movie Posted Image

Have a great Christmas day, enjoy the lunch and booze! Got anything nice planned for NYE?