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#3474864 Acne Scars And Genetic Predisposition?

Posted by missamua on 16 March 2015 - 06:25 PM

Longtermsufferer, genetics are EXTREMELY complex and you're right that there is no single gene that directly causes cystic acne, but that's not to say there isn't a strong genetic component/predisposition to overproduction of oil, inflammation, bacteria etc - which are factors of cystic acne. I could go on about this all day but I've had this conversation so many times on here. Personally, I've never been one to eat a lot of junk food, and I have morbidly obese friends/family who dont exactly have a healthy diet and yet have flawless skin. In fact, I can't recall ever meeting an obese person with cystic acne, or at least not often enough for it to stick in my memory. If cystic acne was truly just diet and environment, we'd have the entire American population walking around with bad acne and that's not the case.

#3474758 Acne Scars And Genetic Predisposition?

Posted by missamua on 16 March 2015 - 02:03 AM

Cystic acne is absolutely genetic. Studies have consistently shown it runs in families, and pitted acne scars themselves are primarily caused by prolonged inflammation to the skin which results in loss of collagen and/or misaligned collagen. So, yes, since pitted acne scarring is caused by cystic acne it is technically genetic. Although there are also other factors. Don't listen to the pseudoscience some people spew on here about your body "pushing out toxins" through your skin. If your kidneys are functioning I can assure you there are no "toxins" polluting your skin. Just more nonsense to stigmatize a disease.

#3471837 Suctioning Bruises?

Posted by missamua on 16 February 2015 - 12:15 PM

Bruising is normal with suctioning. I wouldn't suction unless you've had subcision done just recently (3 days to a week ago).

#3468890 Excision?

Posted by missamua on 21 January 2015 - 01:29 PM

Honestly, I think your issue has more to do with texture/enlarged pores. I don't really see actual scarring other than the ones on your cheek (which are not really noticeable). You could smooth out the texture of your skin using just topicals and save yourself a lot of time and money. Foundation primers work great for this, and so does a good moisturizer like CeraVe moisturizing lotion. I know that's probably not the answer you're looking for, but it sounds like you've spent a lot of time on money on treatments that haven't worked. 

#3463427 Just Did Subcision :)

Posted by missamua on 10 December 2014 - 08:05 PM

I really think you should try the suction method for at least some of your more prominent/wider scars. People get the best results that way. 

#3459801 Help! Acne Scars

Posted by missamua on 13 November 2014 - 08:44 PM

Uhm, no. You need to do your research on the causes of acne scars. They are caused by serious inflammation from cystic acne. Picking at them can increase inflammation and thus worsen scarring but are not the "cause". This is a common misconception and a very frustrating one. I NEVER popped my pimples yet I have very deep scarring. I'm not trying to sound malicious but it's these ignorant statements that make us scar sufferers feel very isolated.


Not to mention that manuka honey will do absolutely nothing for pitted scarring. They are the result of loss of tissue and misaligned collagen. 

Skin scars like yours often results when you pop your pimples. Avoid doing it next time. Try applying manuka honey cream to your face, this one works with my acne and old acne scars. Hope it will help you too.

#3459430 Ever Feel Suicidal?

Posted by missamua on 11 November 2014 - 02:34 AM

So true. I always emphasize how important acceptance is when it comes to scars. Yes, there are treatments, and they can be improved significantly, but there definitely has to be at least a certain level of acceptance to truly move on with your life.  I'd honestly be content with having just "bad" skin versus horrendously disfiguring skin. Luckily,  it's mainly one side of my face that is really scarred, and my chin, but it truly is quite disfigured in most lighting, enough to get stares and people "kindly" suggesting things they think will work for me.

A size 12 I believe is the average in America , and hey, a little extra weight helps plump up scars in your face, so that's a plus! As I've gained more weight i've noticed my face looking more plumps and tight, scars much less noticeable.


I agree it is horrible to have someone notice it. Usually it is just my little nieces who would say anything about my skin, usually because I had creams or absolutely no makeup on at the time! Kids will say anything though. Since I've been out of high schools I really haven't been around people who would just bring up the state of my skin out of the blue. It is very rude! Yet, I just got back from visiting my mother, and she can be more critical than any stranger. I guess she means well, but she likes to point out  my flaws. Not just my skin (which I think she realizes I can't help now so why make comments) but now she is telling me I need to lose weight. I'm about a size 12 now, which isn't really that abnormal in America, but she has to really point out that I am overweight. But I just smiled and told her thanks for letting me know. I think I'm past the point of letting that women bother me anymore, LOL. I really would like to fix my scars, but while researching and trying to find the best and safest products, I really just want to keep a relatively good sense of self-esteem. I really didn't have it for so many years, and life is just better when we show ourselves respect and love even if no one else does out there.


#3459191 Ever Feel Suicidal?

Posted by missamua on 09 November 2014 - 01:25 AM

I suppose it depends on the severity of the scarring. When I go out in public I immediately become a social experiment. You wouldn't believe some of the things that have been said to me by strangers. To me, that's the worst part about it. I can't really ever forget that I have scarring because every time someone points it out, stares, asks, or tries suggesting B.S. topicals to "fade them" (without me having brought it up) I am reminded once again that I have scars. Most of the time people aren't inherently being malicious, but it gets really old having to explain myself or justify the state of my skin all the time. If people didn't bring it up or ask about it, I wouldn't care nearly as much. Having any kind of flaw that seriously affects your self-esteem, and other people acknowledging it is devastating to say the least.

Yes, skin problems are a real struggle. Sometimes the psychological effects they cause afterward seem insurmountable, but they are really not. It is like I said before, it becomes a choice. I have done the "exposure therapy" ....I read up on it myself, never saw a shrink. It involves going out of the house without makeup and letting people really see you. As a woman for so many years I couldn't do it. Finally I did, and no one really looked at me too closely at all. I've even been out with a small square bandage on spots. One women thought I'd had skin cancer cut our or something. I actually told her my problems. My scars did use to be worse on some level, so I guess I can be thankful on days when they aren't as bad. It has been a lot of ups and downs though. I'll pray for everyone here!

#3455879 Ever Feel Suicidal?

Posted by missamua on 13 October 2014 - 11:29 PM

Oh man...this is so me, all of it. Vacations are supposed to be fun and relaxing, but I'm always terrified of lighting everywhere I go. I have family in southern California I occasionally visit and as much as I love spending time with them, I absolutely do not feel comfortable in sunlight or any "bad" lighting, even if it's my own family. Like you even just seeing sunlight coming in from a window gives me a panic attack, I instantly start thinking about how my skin looks in sunlight and end up having to close the blinds or cover them somehow. It's very distressing. I think part of what makes me incredibly insecure over my scarring is the fact that I've had multiple people bring it up or ask about it. It's bad enough when a physical flaw makes you insecure, but when other people acknowledge they notice it too it's pretty hurtful. Scarring combined with mental health issues have really held me back from living a full life, even going to school and working is a living hell, even worse no one truly understands the emotional impact of scarring which only makes you feel more isolated from everyone else.

So I went for a walk outside my hotel today and ended up sitting on a bench crying. It was awful. Ironically as I sat there thinking of my hideous skin and the many different aspects of my life it has destroyed, a man was walking by and called me beautiful, in my mind I thought get me into the wrong lighting and you'll see how beautiful I can be.

I can no longer handle my life. As I was sitting there I decided many things, one of which was that upon returning to Canada, I am going to give my 1 months notice and quit my job. I am going to take the next year to just deal with these scars. Get as many treatments done as I can possibly afford without having to stress about getting time off for recovery. I really need to do this. If can't improve my scars by at least 75-85% I can not be happy. I felt so lonesome and broken today as I sat there and cried. This vacation really made me realize how much I am not living life to it's greatest potential. I thought many times before to just quit my job until I am mentally well but always didn't because I didn't want to be looked upon as a loser or a weak person but I've been such a strong girl these past few years but this battle has really began to wear me out.

I've always been an outdoorsy type of girl. I enjoyed hiking, beaches, picnics, outdoor yoga, bike riding, running etc, etc. Since these scars happened I am no longer that girl. Mainly because of lighting. I just do not feel at all comfortable with sunlight. To the point that when I see it pouring through the window I get so annoyed. Dark, gloomy days are where it's at for me. Yesterday my bf took me out to eat at a restaurant and I felt so uncomfortable because of the lighting there. Ugh can't enjoy anything. I'm so happy we're long distance for the time being, I can't handle date nights they aren't fun anymore just stressful. He wants to me to move out here with him and get married. But If my skin doesn't get better I think I will break up with him because I'm not the type of person anyone should be in a relationship with. I'm never going to feel comfortable meeting his friends & family, although I did meet his dad once and he seemed to like me. And also, I wonder what if his family invites us out for a BBQ, or some outdoor event during daylight hours what am I going to do? What if we have kids one day? I'm going to have to take them to a lot of out door functions. Ya no kids for me until these scars improve. It's terrifying how a handful of scars can change your future so much.

#3455430 Please Help. Do You Think This Will Cure My Acne Scarring? (Pics Included)

Posted by missamua on 10 October 2014 - 05:51 PM

I've seen the best results with subcision combined with suctioning, especially for deeper scars. I don't know how easily subcision can be performed on the temples, but if you can find a doctor who is willing to do it in that area that's what I would do. Lasers can work wonders but for deeper scars it's really not worth it in my opinion as lasers need to work on a relatively smooth surface. They can also make things a whole lot worse so it's definitely a gamble. You'd probably get 30-50% at most with lasers whereas subcision + suction can yield up to 70-90% for some people. There's some amazing subcision success stories on here:








http://www.acne.org/...y-bad-and-ugly/ (this guy actually performed subcision on himself, which i strongly advise against, nonetheless he had good results from it so it's worth posting)



#3452717 Acne Scars With Pics

Posted by missamua on 19 September 2014 - 01:25 PM

You can apply whatever topical to your skin and it wont affect fillers. Silicone injections can react badly if you have laser resurfacing done over it, I'm not sure about micro needling. I've read that other natural fillers will just reabsorb if you have resurfacing procedures done over them, but it depends on if the procedure is ablative or not.

#3451863 Ever Feel Suicidal?

Posted by missamua on 13 September 2014 - 09:53 AM

I agree with most of what you said...but nobody "chooses" to have severe depression which is a serious mental illness that needs treatment. Telling someone it's all in their head isn't all that helpful. It's great that you can live with your scarring and aren't severely depressed over it, but many people are and it's important not to negate the feelings someone has over their scarring even if it differs from how you feel about yours. Most people on here aren't vain or shallow...they just want to look the way they used to.  On another note, if you are having suicidal thoughts, i'd definitely recommend seeing someone for it and getting help. 

Everybody knows someone who has whether acne or scars. Most people find scars even less visually disturbing than acne, frankly, since it's not something actively growing on your face. But even acne is such a normality nowadays that nobody cares. I see people with really bad skin issues everyday, it struck me recently how many people actually have whether acne or scars. Literally masses! Myself I have a nasty scarring myself, which i definitely dislike a lot and gonna soon try to treat with laser, but never thought of it as something that could put me down as much as my cystic acne used to. When the outside world doesn't care, it's all in your head and you should work with yourself instead of letting suicidal thoughts grow and nurture them. We can't give into destructive thoughts just because of an aesthetic flaw, it's just so unfair to all those people who die everyday for different reasons they couldn't choose, while all they wanted was to live. I know, you (talking in general), who is preoccupied with yourself and your image, couldn't care less about those people, but just think if it's really worth losing your life for not having a perfect complexion? Talk to a professional, get some treatments done, work with your inner critic, just stop caring about shallow things -  fight it. 

#3450667 What Do You Guys Think Would Work Best For These Acne Scars?

Posted by missamua on 05 September 2014 - 07:43 AM

TCA peels will help get rid of the redness, subcision +suction will help level the scars. Don't go anywhere near a laser until you try subcision first though, because lasers won't do anything if your scars are tethered down as they appear to be in your pictures. Subcision is also pretty inexpensive.

#3449061 What Happens If You Dermarolled Every Day Or Every Week? + Very Important Que...

Posted by missamua on 26 August 2014 - 06:33 AM

Everyone ages and loses collagen naturally, but your body doesn't perceive collagen depletion from aging as an injury and therefore there's no incentive for it to repair itself. Microneedling does what any other wound does - signals your body to heal the wound to prevent infection, thus creating new healthy collagen. The speed of collagen depletion is extremely individual..it depends on environmental factors, smoking, drinking, genetics, etc. Somewhere online I found an article on how much collagen the average person has left by the time they are 15, 30 and so on. I don't remember where I found it but i'm sure you could do some research and find that information.

#3446167 Wondering If This Article's Treatments Actually Work?

Posted by missamua on 08 August 2014 - 09:18 AM

Retin-a will help to a small extent in lessening the appearance of some shallow scars, but not by a lot. Your skin overall will look better, though. You would have to keep using it to see lasting effects, otherwise when you stop your skin will continue to age and aging = scars look worse due to loss of collagen.

If you're relatively clear from the regimen I don't think you would purge from it, because purging is really just the result of removing the top layers of skin to reveal active acne under the surface, if you have any. I'm also on the regimen and when I incorporated tazorac I didnt see much purging..

No, it will not work. Pitted scars are the result of a dermal injury, and DIY masks and exfoliants (or store bought for that matter) only work on the surface of the skin. I would look into Dermapen as that is a home treatment that can provide some results if used correctly. As far as collagen boosting products, Retin-A is a good option and that can ever so slightly help to tighten the skin after consistent use, but it takes at least 6 weeks to see results. It will also help to prevent acne.


Sorry for the late response, but two questions - 1) Do you know if Retin-A will permanently diminish the appearance of pitted acne scars, or only while you're using it?


2) If my skin is almost clear from The Regimen, will switching to Retin-A still give me that initial it-gets-worse-before-it-gets-better break-out? I'm basically clear at this point, but I'm still very acne-prone, since skipping The Regimen more than once will break me out.


I've made a new post about this if you want to check it out: http://www.acne.org/...a-break-me-out/