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Omnivium

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#3388805 Omnivium's Low Dose Accutane Log

Posted by Omnivium on 17 October 2013 - 12:15 AM

Week 41:

 

I took my last accutane pill yesterday. Now I'm going straight to vitamin A so my face doesn't erupt with acne and oil again. I'll start at 20,000iu a day while I see how I respond to no accutane, and I'll lower it later if I can.

 

I have insurance, so the actual medication only costed $5 a month. But with monthly derm visits and bloodwork I was still paying $200 a month for my "6 month" course. Even with insurance, it still costs a lot. Because of the cost and the hassle of appointments, I don't plan on ever taking accutane legally again.

 

But it was worth it. My face looks so much better than before, even though I never got that 100% clear, "after picture" face. Hopefully the vitamin A will make the results last. My light scarring had some time to heal, and I developed some self confidence. I actually asked a girl out, and we're going on our first date this weekend. I never would have been able to do that just 6 months ago. 

 

I haven't been on this site much in the last few months because I don't need it anymore. My face looks good enough to accept it and move on with my life. I'll still post occasionally, but I'm not going to dwell on acne anymore; it's time for me to move on and enjoy my life. I hope this thread helps someone do the same.

 

And if someone is having trouble getting prescribed a low dose of accutane - I would never dream of promoting this because it is bad so don't do it - one could theoretically just ask for a regular dose and then take less than what was prescribed.

 

Well that's it. I'll update how it goes with the vitamin A in this thread, and if anyone has any questions I'll get around to answering them sometime.




#3380555 Vitamin D Has Cured Me Of Oily Skin And Acne

Posted by Omnivium on 05 September 2013 - 03:35 AM

I gave this a second try and can confirm it doesn't do anything for me. I took between 10,000iu and 20,000iu of vitamin D3 every day for 3 months without any results. It's still worth a try but it doesn't work for everybody.




#3380554 What Really Worked For My Oily Skin

Posted by Omnivium on 05 September 2013 - 03:28 AM

Yesterday, 11:49 PM

I suffered from acne for about 11 years.  8 of those years it actually affected my life for the worst. So much that I wouldnt be where i am today or be the person I am today because of it.  That thought of that alone blows my mind away. It still upsets me from time to time because of what I could have done and learned in that time. But as I look at it I would never be able to help anyone like I hope I can.

 

I havent had acne problems in 10 years. Hell , I rarely use any cleansers anymore.  I will pretty much stick to my guns on this solution because anything less would be 10 steps back and I would die trying to help at least one person understand this. Because I know others feel like its killing them or that they want to die some days. I mean I wanted to die but somehow instead I ended up  willing to die for this realization... until I gave up. So I will just sum up some 6 principles to healing that came out about from the miracle I had.

 

Just a few facts that I learned on my own about acne that no doctor could ever tell you because he has probably never had to heal his own acne. (Plus, he would be out of business.)

 

First before you read this just stop whining. Stop looking for someone to make it go away for you. Its your acne. You're the one who created it ,you're the one prolonging it. Trying to whine about it on here and not take anyones advice that has put an end to the problem  even though you "want a solution" is  basically saying you want it. To paint a better picture its like paying a personal trainer to get in shape but instead of you lifting the weights you want him to lift them. LOL.

 

 

 

1. Acne is not out there trying to get you. It is not a separate entity from you. It is an extension of you. It starts in your mind ( like any other thing).

Acne thoughts + emotion( "I can't stand acne!") = Acne

2. Since it is in your mind it is created by your thoughts.And since it starts with a thought it can be ended with...no thought.

Acne thoughts -  acne emotion( I can't stand acne)= Healing 

3. You have an emotional attachment to acne. " I can't stand acne".  It must be let go. Forgiven. But first let me emphasize any form of medicine or naturopathic home remedy, or no remedy, you wish to take has to go through this process to heal. 

 

Forgiveness is what heals.  Right now you're at "F@ck you acne". when you need to be at "Acne is ok. " Then eventually you will get to "Who's acne?"

 

When you cut your finger most of the time there is no grudge with the cut , so you let it heal. Its not "F@ck you cut! or F@ck you kitchen knife(well sometimes but only for a minute hehe).  When you make up with a friend its not "I forgive you for breaking my Justin Bieber but when you get a chance burn in hell"  Its either "I forgive you "or it what I call " No need to forgive because, I was never upset." You simply cannot have peace without letting yourself have it. 

 

4. You have to change your mind about acne.  You think it makes you ugly and unattractive. But since  your so wrapped up in yourself,  you've never bothered to look around and realize theres really no such thing as ugly. There is nothing unbearable to look at.

Think about it. Take a look around at people with it and without it. Does acne change how you feel about them? The ones that  do have it can you tell it bothers them? Can you tell how it makes them feel at all? Usually not. And why is that? Because its all in their head! If you can't perceive a problem with your eyes then it must be in the mind, right?

 

5. Stop resisting the acne. Let it be there. Remember its there because you cant stand it. So for now on tell yourself its ok to have it.

Because it does not matter. ITs like bird shit on a car. Its not going to change how you feel about a car. It would never keep you from buying a car you love. You'd have to scour a car just to see it anyway. If it was a ferrari you wouldn't even care!  The problem is taken care of you just need to get out of the way because you have been in the way the whole time by caring about acne.

 

6.The BEST ACTION to take to release  your attachment to it is to affirm : "I don't care if it stays or goes,  I'm not going to do this to myself anymore. I going to live my life and be happy."  Then start living your life like someone who doesn't have it. Stop putting all this crap on your face. pick one cleanser use it no more than twice a day if you need that to make you feel at ease.  Stop looking for zits in the bathroom for an hour. Stop picking. Stop hiding. People that don't have it don't do that crap. So stop taking it so seriously. Laugh at yourself once in awhile and spend time trying to always be laughing or doing something you enjoy.  

 

Keep in mind if you took Accutane or something and it went away, your attitude towards it would be different. You will eventually feel "safe" but it will just take longer and cost more. Eventually you may even forget your grudge and approve of yourself and actually be happy but only conditionally. You'll never know unconditional happiness or love. 

So to conclude if you can't understand at least one of these then saddle up for a long ride on a road to nowhere and good luck with your next battle. Acne's cousin cancer.

 

I know you're trying to help people, but I can't help but feel that following your advice would just make someone keep their acne instead of getting rid of it. Maybe changing the way you think can help a bit, but it's not going to overcome the biological processes that cause acne. You can't use willpower to stop a pore from getting clogged.

 

And I couldn't help but notice some fallacies with your logic. In the very first "fact", you said acne thoughts + emotion(I can't stand acne) = acne. But no one would think those things until after they got acne, so negative emotions about acne cannot possibly be the cause of acne. The cause is physical.

 

And for the example about the cut healing, even if you got mad at the cut and never got over it, it would still heal just like it would if you forgot about it.

 

I'm just trying to lead people in the right direction. If people just accept their acne, that's fine, but it's not just going to go away. Yours did because you grew out of it or something. But if a teenager who actually has acne just stops caring about his acne, it's just going to get worse when he could have been doing something to get rid of it. Some of the advice you gave about not stressing too much, thinking positive, and not using a bunch of topicals will help, but it definitely won't clear the skin of someone who actually has acne.




#3374647 What Does Your Bf/gf Think Of Your Oily Skin?

Posted by Omnivium on 14 August 2013 - 03:45 AM

My OP may have sounded insecure, but I was mostly just wondering if oily skin is a turn off for other people, not if I should be worried about how I look. However I admit I have some confidence issues, and I'm working on being more self confident.




#3364641 Omnivium's Low Dose Accutane Log

Posted by Omnivium on 07 July 2013 - 09:46 PM

Week 27:

 

Everything is pretty much the same. Acne looks good, don't even care about it anymore. I still have some oil and blackheads. Still taking 20mg accutane and 10,000iu vitamin D3 a day. Can't tell if the D3 is doing anything.

 

Most of my side effects are gone since I lowered my accutane dosage to 20mg. I've been getting some neck pain recently, but I have no idea if that is related to the accutane or vitamin D. It could just be bad posture or something. I'll try to figure out what's causing it.




#3361024 What Causes Oily Skin?

Posted by Omnivium on 23 June 2013 - 07:12 PM

I wasn't going to post anything in this thread, but I feel like I should correct this.

 

Mainly, your sebaceous glands are usually producing oil in an attempt to hydrate your skin, which is why if you use harsh, drying cleansers and treatments, they will overcompensate for the dryness and pump out oil. This is why it's so important to use a moisturizer and drink lots of water to keep your skin hydrated.

 

That theory of overcompensation is unproven and most likely false. It is something people made up to try to explain what is happening to them. Please don't say it to people as if it is a fact. Yes, people can appear more oily when they wash more, and I think that is because washing removes skin cells that would have covered up the oil.

 

The oil glands are triggered to grow and produce oil when androgens bind to them. Not when your skin is dry. Normal washes and moisturizers have no effect on the sebaceous gland receptors, so they have no effect on the amount of oil produced. Cleansers just remove things from the surface of the skin. That's it.




#3358600 Could I Use A Low Dose Of Accutane To Stop Oily Skin?

Posted by Omnivium on 17 June 2013 - 02:42 AM

It would be pretty hard to get accutane legally if you don't even have acne. Even if you did get it, you might have to take more than you expect for it to work, and your oil will probably return after you stop taking it. It will work while you're on it, but it isn't a permanent solution for oily skin.




#3356332 Help Me Understand Androgens Please!

Posted by Omnivium on 09 June 2013 - 02:52 AM

Yea all acne products are scams. They don't cure anything, they just "treat" acne or oil. Meaning they never get rid of it.

 

I don't know much about hormonal imbalances, but we don't necessarily have more androgens than other people. We could just have sebaceous glands that are more sensitive to androgens, which is the part genetics would play. Lately I have been thinking that we could have an imbalance in not only hormones, but anything that binds to the sebaceous glands, such as retinoic acid(accutane, vitamin a). In my mind I have separated everything that binds to the sebaceous glands into two categories: androgens, which increase oil, and everything else, which decreases oil. Both categories bind to the sebaceous glands, but if one category overpowers the other, due to a deficiency, an excess, or both, you will get either dry or oily skin.

 

Women can safely take birth control, spironolactone, saw palmetto, or any other antiandrogen. I never heard of black cohosh or chasteberry, but I wouldn't bother trying either of those or saw palmetto. I don't think those natural antiandrogens are strong enough to work well. You might want to look into spiro. If I was a girl I probably would have tried it already.

 

Sugar can cause oily skin by increasing IGF-1, which also binds to the sebaceous glands and causes them to grow and produce more oil. I personally have not had any reduction in oil since stopping sugary, high glycemic load food, but others have. Even if it doesn't decrease your oil, you should still stop drinking soda and things like that just because they are so bad for you.

 

I'm all for experimenting with ways to reduce oil, but as a man I don't want to reduce my androgens, so right now I'm trying to increase the "everything else" category instead. I'll be interested in seeing your results though, and anyone else trying something for oil too.




#3353847 Pcos - Overproduction Of Androgen Thus Overproduction Of Sebum..any Help?

Posted by Omnivium on 31 May 2013 - 05:39 PM

There are natural antiandrogen supplements that could help, such as green tea and saw palmetto, but I think birth control pills or spironolactone would work much better.




#3352293 Why Do We Develop Oily Skin As We Age?

Posted by Omnivium on 27 May 2013 - 02:15 AM

I always thought oiliness tended to reduce as we got older - but I guess not!  eusa_think.gif
 
I've seen a little reduction in oiliness since I was around 14 or 15 (I'm 20 now) but my skin is still quite oily. Can be quite annoying! But I do remember hearing that people with oilier skin tend to show less signs of ageing in their skin or that their skin ages slower... I don't know how true that is though.
 
It's not directly genetic for me I don't think - both my parents seem to have normal skin - and they never had issues with acne like I do. My younger brother's skin is pretty normal too and he rarely breaks out. It must be more hormonal for me - both oiliness and acne... I have been considering birth control to help with this but the side effects still worry me...


Yup that's what I was thinking also that mines hormonal because both my parents have always had perfect skin (lucky!) but I know alot of women that have been on BC for years and nothing went wrong..I think the benefits outway the risks..but that's just my opinion.

 

I thought that as well. Oily skin is caused by androgens binding to the sebaceous glands and triggering then to grow and produce oil. So I thought as one ages and their hormones decrease, their oil would too. But it makes sense that it's not just the amount of androgens that causes excess sebum. Maybe oily skin can also be caused by an imbalance of androgens and other things that bind to the sebaceous glands, such as estrogen and vitamin D. Without those other things binding to the sebaceous glands, which would both block androgens and trigger the glands to shrink, the androgens are free to bind and cause excess oil production.

 

Women are somewhat lucky, because you can take hormonal treatments like birth control and spironolactone.




#3351792 Moisturize Or Not? I Dont Know What To Believe...

Posted by Omnivium on 25 May 2013 - 03:22 AM

I believe that skin overcompensating for dry skin is a myth. The sebaceous glands are triggered to produce sebum when androgens bind to sebaceous gland receptors. Normal face washes and moisturizers will not have any effect on this process, so they will not alter the amount of oil produced. 

 

I have a theory that washing a lot makes one appear more oily because washing removes some skin cells, leaving less skin to cover up or absorb the oil.

 

I would only moisturize if your skin is dry. Skin can be oily and dry at the same time, especially if you are using topicals.




#3340635 Weight Issues!anti-Acne Diet Is Making Me Lose Weight..whereas I Need To...

Posted by Omnivium on 14 April 2013 - 01:10 PM

If you want to gain weight, you should start counting calories to see how much you are eating. For girls, 2500 calories a day might be enough to gain weight.

 

You should eat some healthy fat since it is so calorie dense. Olive oil, coconut oil, and avocados are supposed to be good fat sources. Some high calorie foods that I eat that are relatively healthy are bananas, potatoes and peanut butter.




#3335106 New Forum Structure

Posted by Omnivium on 21 March 2013 - 11:19 AM

I'll gladly take that layout over what we have now. Thanks for listening to us man.




#3333996 New Forum Structure

Posted by Omnivium on 17 March 2013 - 01:01 AM

You say the change bothered the minority and helped the majority, but all I see are people who don't like that you deleted some of the forums. In the 3 threads about this, I counted 11 people who disliked the change, and 1 person who liked it. And I know, people who are upset are more likely to post something about it, but still, I think more people prefer the old style over the new one. Why did you think the majority would prefer the new style?




#3328100 Oily Skin Research

Posted by Omnivium on 20 February 2013 - 01:15 AM

I don't know if this belongs in the acne research section, but I think it will be more helpful here, where people with oily skin will see it.

 

I'm going to make some posts about what causes oily skin, why Accutane works, and whatever else I think of. I'm kind of busy with school, so I won't be able to post very often.

 

1. Androgens Cause Sebum Production

2. Accutane Decreases Sebocyte Proliferation and Differentiation

3. Oral Spironolactone Decreases Free Androgens and Blocks Androgen Receptors

4. Vitamin D Suppresses Sebocyte Cell Proliferation