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#3443717 Does This Mean It's Getting Worse? I'm Confused And Paranoid

Posted by WishClean on 27 July 2014 - 01:27 PM

Yes I'm pretty sure it's official... it's getting worse again. 2 months of improvement... only to be here once again, breaking out every few days, this is the beginning of another disastrous breakout, i just know it. for the past 3 weeks i've been breaking out every few days and now the first week of my 7th pack, i'm already down to 3 large deep breakouts, whereas last month and the month before it was 0. i don't know what to do anymore. if the pill is doing this to me, doesn't that mean spiro will make it even worse? and this doesn't even make sense. i don't understand how it can get worse then better THEN WORSE AGAIN. it doesn't make any sense. what the hell is going on.

Maybe this isn't the right pill for you. It's not "one pill for all", you may need to explore other options because if it's been 6 packs already and no improvements, then idk. Usually, though, hormonal treatments can take up to 6 months to work, so maybe give it another cycle?  I'm against birth control pills, so I can't be helpful in this aspect....I truly think they can mess up hormones worse than anything else. 

It would help if you perhaps saw a good endocrinologist to figure out if your acne is even hormonal... the pill doesn't work for complex hormonal cases and non-hormonal acne.



I've read that boat pose is especially good for PCOS. 

Also, I forget to mention this...I do yoga a few days a week, and it really helps the blood flow. It's recommended for people with PCOS/ other imbalances, plus it lowers stress. There are actually some videos on youtube with exercises good for the skin. Worth a try, right ? 

Thanks...I'll have to do the boat pose more often ;)

#3443506 My Way Too Clear Skin.

Posted by WishClean on 26 July 2014 - 10:09 AM

I've been meaning to see a naturopath but I haven't got around to it yet. I've always had the impression though that they'd take one look at me, see my skin isn't great and then just tell me something that's possibly generic and not actually specific to me (like candida etc).There's one at my local health food store that advertises food sensitivity testing. I think they do saliva testing too - not sure. If I do get around to going, hopefully they're a more experienced / reliable naturopath.

 But I was just wondering if any of you know how reliable saliva testing is? I don't really know anything about it but I thought I'd read somewhere that it wasn't that accurate, reliable or helpful. I'm just curious about it - so if you have info on it, let me know, - thanks smile.png


Hey lilly,

If you do decide to see a naturopath, do some background research on them (e.g. check if they have patient ratings & reviews)...like with any doctor, not all naturopaths are experts at any particular issue. If they try to give you a bunch of supplements without really trying to get to the root of your individual problems, then it means they are not knowledgeable enough about acne. 

Saliva testing (and I also heard good things about urine testing) is better than blood testing if done through a reliable source...this is because saliva testing tests your hormones during different points of your cycle, not just once like blood testing. Hormones fluctuate all the time, which is why saliva testing gives you a better indication of which hormones could be causing an imbalance. Also, many times, it doesn't matter whether your hormones are in the "normal" range (which is still too broad for most women)...it's the RATIO that matters more, e.g if you have very low progesterone compared to testosterone or estrogen. 

I remember seeing your photos before you started the regimen, and I'm pretty sure your acne is hormonal...perhaps some of it is sensitivity to products or something like that, but I would say it's probably mostly hormonal. So it might be a good bet to get some hormone tests done when you can.

The other thing I forgot to mention recently is how much acupuncture has helped me. It can take a few tries to find the right practitioner, but honestly, my former acupuncturist (before I moved) was able to diagnose most of my health issues (including anemia) before I even got bloodwork done. They also helped me with digestive issues and stress.... but acupuncture, at least in the beginning, needs to be done regularly and consistently to pay off. It really is the most individualized treatment you will ever get. 

#3443443 My Way Too Clear Skin.

Posted by WishClean on 26 July 2014 - 12:34 AM

I agree...if the naturopath is not experienced in dealing with skin issues specifically, then they will just go through probable issues (e.g. candida) and hope that that is your issue. 

I also don't like it when they recommend too many supplements...keep in mind that many naturopaths actually receive commission and/or discounts from specific stores (one naturopath I went in Europe to refers all his customers to a specific pharmacy/health store to increase supplement sales). 

I think the conservative approach is to just start with a few supplements, plus diet changes, and see if there is improvement. No need to take more than you need.

#3443440 How ya feelin' about your acne today?

Posted by WishClean on 26 July 2014 - 12:22 AM

Sorry to read the posts about acne worsening.... mine has been a little too lately, but mostly it's stress and diet-related. I wish I could tell you all that when skin problems become more manageable, your life will be better, but that may not be the case unfortunately. We all have to find happiness within and not rely on the approval of others or even on our appearance. I keep thinking how short life is, and how much of it I spent worrying about things that shouldn't matter.


Anyway, I'm sending positive vibes to all of you, even though my luck has ran out. Do you ever feel like everything in your life is going downhill and you can't do anything to prevent the downward spiral? That's how my life is right now...I'm just hopelessly watching my life fall apart, no matter what I do :/ 


(Sorry for being a downer...I needed a place to vent)

#3443364 Does This Mean It's Getting Worse? I'm Confused And Paranoid

Posted by WishClean on 25 July 2014 - 12:01 PM

Also, I forget to mention this...I do yoga a few days a week, and it really helps the blood flow. It's recommended for people with PCOS/ other imbalances, plus it lowers stress. There are actually some videos on youtube with exercises good for the skin. Worth a try, right ? ;)

#3443084 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by WishClean on 23 July 2014 - 09:47 PM

Thanks for the link WishClean. I responded in the other thread so as to not clog up your inositol/DIM thread.
I'm not sure if you saw one of my previous questions on this topic but I was asking about whether or not you found any new information on long term inositol use or potential inositol resistance? I'm considering going back on it now that six months have passed and also because I came across a video (I posted in this thread) about how important inositol is for PCOS.
Finally, do you think DIM is a long term supplement or just a temporary one for detoxing your body of excess estrogen? Do you know of any potential rebound effects or side effects from long term use? Just curious. smile.png

Unfortunately, there are no longterm studies other than the 6-month trial...but maybe there's more info on the Chiral Balance website about long term use of inositol. The video you posted is very useful, I think they cite it on the Chiral Balance forum as well. 

Not sure how effective DIM is long term either... I am planning on testing my hormones once I finally have decent health insurance again, so I guess I'll find out in a few months. I'm curious too.


I'm joining the inositol experiment. I've long suspected I might have PCOS, or at least a hormonal imbalance, which has become apparent since going off BC two years ago.


My acne issue is hormonal cysts that appear on my chin each and every month. I have very clear skin on the rest of my face, but if anything plays with my hormones I will face an eruption (or three… or four). My most recent situation was drinking a whey protein shake… which, I didn't realize, promotes testosterone. The next morning I had two cysts on my chin, more coming up on my cheeks... In the following weeks ELEVEN total popped up in succession, all below the cheekbones. Luckily they didn't scar, and once extracted they stayed away. Currently, one month later, the breakout has slowed down, and there's only one left on my chin. (Fingers crossed.) I also had the worst period of my life that month, with initial cramps so horrific I ended up vomiting from the pain. I attribute all of this to one glass of a testosterone-friendly powder blended into a seemingly-healthy shake with spinach.


Other PCOS symptoms I've noticed include - hair everywhere after going off the pill (sides of face, jawline, upper lip, most of my body, etc.), fibrocystic breasts, cycles which are not wildly irregular but are very heavy and last at least a full week; insomnia and terrible PMS depression that lasts two weeks before my period. As stated, I went off BC two years ago as the generic I'd used - the only one that hadn't given me intense side effects - was discontinued, and I have not ovulated since. 


I have digestive issues as well - diagnosed Celiac, problems digesting dairy (cheese is OK, generally), and VERY intense reactions to sugar… I don't eat it too often, but if I have any amount larger than a few teaspoons I will be out of commission for at least a day, with extreme fatigue, full-body bloating, and migraines. I've begun to realize this is probably an insulin issue. It also tends to break me out (of course), and make my PMS intense.


Getting checked for PCOS isn't an option right now, since my husband quit his job to join a start-up, and we're between insurance providers. So, in the meantime, I've started taking evening primrose three times daily, as it's helped my hormonal acne in the past, a multi with folic acid, calcium with D, and zinc twice a day. I also drink apple cider vinegar in water. And after reading this thread and many articles on PCOS websites, I bought a bottle of Twinlab myo-inositol and have begun taking 1500 MGs. (Is this too much? Too little?)


Four days in - I haven't had any new breakouts, which is a good sign as my period should come sometime in the next week, and the cysts usually show up early. I'm not noticing any appetite loss; I'm actually hungrier, though that's not a bad thing, as I'm underweight. I have a headache for about a half hour after I take one. I'll be updating as things progress!


Good luck, keep us posted!

A lot of people keep their acne under control when eliminating gluten, especially if they are celiacs. It's good that you pay attention to other symptoms as well (such as indigestion)...usually those are all connected. 

#3441798 Water Has Been Breaking Me Out!

Posted by WishClean on 16 July 2014 - 09:21 PM

Yes, you are definitely onto something here....I always said that water can alter the skin's Ph and sensitivity.

#3441783 Does This Mean It's Getting Worse? I'm Confused And Paranoid

Posted by WishClean on 16 July 2014 - 08:38 PM

brenmc is right, sometimes it's hard to pinpoint exactly what is happening. This week my skin has been freaking out...a lot of stress, lack of good sleep, eating lots of things I'm not used to, stomach problems, that time of the month....so I can't pinpoint the exact cause, but everything has been bothering me. 

We have to stay hopeful though...

#3441779 My Skin Is Causing Me A Lot Of Anxiety

Posted by WishClean on 16 July 2014 - 08:28 PM

I just need to vent a bit guys. I don't usually post in this section of the forums, but I'm not sure why since I suffer from an anxiety disorder which is severely exacerbated by my skin issues. Anyways, lately my skin has been breaking out badly and I've started to scar a bit. All my scars right now are very shallow, but I'm having a very "I'm scarred for life, I look ugly, and the world is ending attitude." I have never had to deal with scars before and I feel like my new little ones are pushing my anxiety to the limit. Can you guys please offer me some reassurance or words of wisdom? I don't want to feel like I'm going to be scarred and ugly forever, but right now I can't help but feel that way.

hi paigems...sorry you are feeling down. I can totally relate to this, and I have to say that this week my skin freaked out as well after months of relative calmness (I was even getting used to the scarring). 

Believe me, most of us here have felt ugly and deformed at some point and still do, but don't lose hope. Just keep doing what you are doing and the acne will subside. Have you been feeling particularly stressed lately??

#3441295 How ya feelin' about your acne today?

Posted by WishClean on 14 July 2014 - 09:16 AM

Feeling annoyed!!!!!!!!!  But my day must go on.  Speaking life into a negative set of circumstances.

Stay positive! Your positivity is motivating to others including myself. :)

#3441293 Does This Mean It's Getting Worse? I'm Confused And Paranoid

Posted by WishClean on 14 July 2014 - 09:12 AM

stress= acne for acne-prone skin. Try to relax and not fixate on your skin as much. 

Also, you have to remember that acne sometimes has an ebb and flow...some days it subsides, and other days it flares up. Until it gets completely under control, it will still flare up occasionally. Not necessarily a bad sign, take it easy. My skin has freaked out in the last week, probably because I went all out and ate whatever I wanted (my stomach also freaked out, so I'm sure it's related) but now it's slowly coming under control again and I'm positive. I haven't had a swollen cyst in months, but I won't get discouraged, just get back on track. 

#3439751 How ya feelin' about your acne today?

Posted by WishClean on 06 July 2014 - 05:32 PM

These days, I feel cared for and appreciated in my personal life, despite my skin's flaws.

In my professional life, I'm a mess but thankfully I have a good support system to keep me sane (including you awesome pees on acne.org).


hmm sunscreen suggestions, I could use some too....right now, I'm doing fine with lumene's cc cream which has broad spectrum SPF and it's relatively inexpensive. 

#3439361 How ya feelin' about your acne today?

Posted by WishClean on 04 July 2014 - 09:01 AM

Thank you all for the encouragement. The past few days have been hard. My career is basically in a very competitive field, and even though I'm quite accomplished for my age, a stable job cannot be guaranteed because there's always someone better than me! This time, I was a finalist for a good position,but I came in second...story of my life! The rejection letters I receive are basically all compliments. How much does that suck?? I'm considering a career change, but for now I"m hoping I can stay in the US a bit longer to gain some time... strongsad.gif

On the positive side, I did a lactic peel a few days ago (last one probably since I can't afford any more), and so far I'm happy with the results...I recommend this to anyone who can't tolerate other peels (salycylic, glycolic, etc), but you should have a professional do it. 

As for what exister is saying about cleansers, I agree...the harmful ingredients in cleansers are the soaping agents, especially sulfites (SLS, etc). Once I got rid of cleansers, toothpastes, mouthwash, and everything else with sulfates, the redness on my face subsided. It may not completely clear your acne, but it will make your skin less sensitive to chemicals. 

#3439125 How ya feelin' about your acne today?

Posted by WishClean on 02 July 2014 - 09:57 PM

hi everyone, hope you're all coping well. I don't post on this thread that often anymore, but today I'm having a particularly hard day. My career and everything I worked hard for is falling apart, and I feel that everything else in my life will soon fall apart as well no matter what I do. If you have any motivational quotes, no matter how cheesy or cliched, feel free to throw them at me. I'll take anything at this point

#3438481 Medicine/soap For Small Bumps?

Posted by WishClean on 28 June 2014 - 10:01 PM

I just recently used a face mask that has worked wonders on my acne and I was super glad until I took a closer look in the mirror and now I have like at least 30-40 small bumps on my cheeks which looks really gross. I really want to get rid of my acne once and for all, and I would appreciate it so much if you could all suggest something that worked for you! Thank you! Please feel free to ask down below if you would like to know what face mask I used!

A yogurt mask with honey could help. Also, once a week lemon juice, but spot treat first to see how your skin tolerates it.

Peels can help too....I personally only use lactic ones, and they gradually bring the small bumps to the surface