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Chico Esposito

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#3447872 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 18 August 2014 - 06:18 PM

I don't believe in the still there vitamin A theory anymore, it can be true but it's not the true problem, and even if it was there is only one way to expell it same as other toxins. Problem is accutane cause mass cell poisoning and dying, resulting in even more toxicity than before (acne = elimination). You can't regenerate cells when they are being chronically poisoned by their own waste + highly toxic diet who don't even contain anything to truely nourish the body.
If meat is highly toxic it's not because of the vitamin A.

About isotherapy like i said it's not required, it's just to speed up things, and if you want to do it well you need to do sequentially and not only for accutane.

 

Not Vitamin A toxicity per se, specifically 13 cis Retinic acid toxicity. The accutane destroys the gut, as the gut membranes are just like the skin...it causes ineffective removal of the drug. The body was sick already, before accutane, that's why acne was present in the first place. Ineffective detoxification from the kidneys or the biliary tract was probably responsible. The body gets backed up before the drug, the drug is then taken orally but ineffectively removed, so the body stores the drug in the fat cells because fat solubilizes fat. This causes the chronic dry skin, dry lips, and all the same side effects as when on accutane but for the longest time afterwards. Reliving these symptoms is when the accutane is mobilised, which is very dangerous.

 

Of course that's not always the way, some people have no traces of the drug in their body and still have problems due to accutane changing the inner landscape of the body, because it's basically pure poison, but in some cases i do believe the drug is still there. But that's just conjecture at this point, it's just my opinion and i know that it can only be taken at face value.



Apples, oranges, dates, ..

 

Do you recommend or have you used Adrenal Glandular's?




#3385927 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 01 October 2013 - 05:14 PM


 

Chico Esposito, 

 

Please keep us posted.  Curious to see if juice fast is the way to go when so many other methods have failed.  Hope you feel better. 

Day 10 of juice fast, living off 3 quarts of green juice per day, 2 tablespoons of psylium husk, 2 tablespoons of hydrated bentonite clay, lots of water. Everything going smoothly, my eyes are starting to go white again as they were bloodshot before the fast, the red veins are disappearing in the whites of my eyes.... and i feel much better internally. Still have only gone the toilet twice, that needs to be rectified, but going well. My hair looks to be in better shape and body odour has dissipated somewhat.

 

Day 14 of juice fast, 3 quarts of juice, 2 quarts of watermelon juice, 1 quart of Apple, ginger, celery, spinach, lemon juice. Weight starting to stabilise, after losing weight in the last few days, seems my metabolism has slowed down. Arise and shine Bentonite clay has arrived and it replaces the more watery Yerba prima bentonite clay in my shakes. Instead of rice milk i've been using almond milk in my P & B shakes today. Feeling good, skin is still in better condition than pre fast, really a walk in the park today.




#3385289 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 28 September 2013 - 06:28 AM

Day 10 of juice fast, living off 3 quarts of green juice per day, 2 tablespoons of psylium husk, 2 tablespoons of hydrated bentonite clay, lots of water. Everything going smoothly, my eyes are starting to go white again as they were bloodshot before the fast, the red veins are disappearing in the whites of my eyes.... and i feel much better internally. Still have only gone the toilet twice, that needs to be rectified, but going well. My hair looks to be in better shape and body odour has dissipated somewhat.




#3384082 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 21 September 2013 - 07:10 PM

JTM88 and sunnyhatesacne thank you for your fantastic posts, and welcome too you both. Hypervitaminosis A is the cause, the excess fat soluble vitamin A is in the fat, the question is how do we get it out of the body?




#3375139 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 15 August 2013 - 04:40 PM

I was doing some research today after work as I often do and came across a article , it talked about one dermatologist describing Accutane as a

 

CONTROLLED POISONING and he said that he would never give it out to patients but rather recommend dietary changes , supplements and if

 

need be a course of antibiotics , quite a progressive derm I would say , seems like things are changing in the dermatology world and they are

 

finally waking up to the fact that  DIET is a major factor on acne prone individuals , the golden goose that is accutane yes people are finally

 

realizing that it is not a  MIRACLE DRUG as no such thing exists , interesting read though. I would describe Accutane as being in a constant

 

hungover like state with a dose of systemic dehydration thrown in and those would be the mild side effects.

 

 


It's exactly what it is if you think about it.... it's just giving people toxic amounts of synthetic vitamin A to stop their skin from producing sebum. Accutane's not the only medication thats controlled poisoning, chemotherapy is pumping the body full of toxic drugs in the hope that it'll kill some cancer cells. Calcipotriene is a synthetic toxic form of vitamin D that they give people with psoriasis. The sooner you realise the whole world is insane the better, Einstein said it best - only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and i'm not sure about the former.



#3373350 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 09 August 2013 - 08:02 PM

Camaroz obviously has problems with saw palmetto because he took the male pattern baldness drug finasteride or propecia as it's commonly known. So his body is seriously affected by dht inhibitors or which saw palmetto is a major player. I can totally understand that, as we all know how much a synthetic drug like accutane can mess up our bodies. A normal person can eat cod liver oil and foods high in vitamin A without any problems whatsoever, accutane victims simply can't. Vitamin A f***s them up because accutane has totally messed up their ability to metabolise vitamin A. There are hardly any exceptions to this and joseph is playing a very dangerous game recommending cod liver oil to these people. 




#3370844 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 01 August 2013 - 08:21 AM

If your going to take cod liver oil make sure to supplement with vitamin d3 as well. The blue ice brand has a lot of vitamin d in it so thats probably the safest. The D3 protects against hypervitaminosis A symptoms, around 2000iu per day will help in relation to this. K2 is also very important as it has a synergy with vitamin A and vitamin d3, the three of them work together. Joseph's taking high butter oil for the K2 but if you plan on supplementing with a pill or capsule make sure you opt for the MK-7 kind as it is derived from natto, whereas almost all the MK-4 in pill form is synthetic so that should be avoided.

 

Thyroid's important especially t3 as it shares receptors with d3 and vitamin A, likewise a magnesium supplement because it's the most common deficiency in the world, magnesium is essential for glucuronidation, which is important where accutane is concerned.




#3367500 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 19 July 2013 - 07:06 AM

http://www.strongsup...gi-supplements/

 

This liver supp looks interesting, it has NAC which increases sulfation and glutathione conjugation, CoQ10 which is a powerful fat soluble antioxidant, Alpha lipoic acid which is both a fat soluble and water soluble antioxidant that protects cells and the liver from damage. Hawthorn berry for the circulation system and heart health, celery seed for the kidneys, saw palmetto just for cameroz, Quercetin which is a powerful flavonoid. Same-e which increases the methylation pathway in the liver, bupleurum powder which is a very bitter herb that increases bile flow substantially...it's actually one of the two ingredients in chinese bitters alongside gentian. The last ingredient is TUDCA which protects against glucuronidation induced cholestasis. So all round liver protection and it's well dosed.




#3365816 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 12 July 2013 - 07:13 AM

http://balancedconce...detox_paths.pdf

 

This is a good link to showing what nutrients are needed for liver detoxification and how accutane and other pharmaceuticals get broken down in the body, between the liver and the kidneys.

 

A good multivitamin / mineral without vitamin A is foundational, amino acids and nutrients like NAC, milk thistle and other phtyonutrients help the liver to remove chemicals. Likewise a good kidney formula using natural duiretics like nettle leaf, celery seed etc can help fortify the kidneys. In the uk there is a herbal tea called Pukka, they have both a cleanse and a detox tea that with strengthen the kidneys available in most supermarkets.

 

As far as multi's go heres one without Vitamin A http://www.healthplu...-Vitamin-A.html

 

For the amino's you want complete proteins like egg white, meat, fish, something like an egg white powder would contain all the essential amino's, with some rice milk, it actually tastes nice. 




#3365601 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 11 July 2013 - 08:33 AM

I am an 18 year old girl. I am about to go into my 3rd month of Accutane. Aside from the horrible cracking and bleeding of my lips, muscle pain, and nosebleeds I have had some other really scary side effects. 6 days into the medication i started having numbness in my hands and feet. i was told that it was not a symptom of Accutane but did some research myself and found that it was. My doctor diagnosed me with pernicious anemia meaning that i no longer had the ability to effectively absorb B12 and that i can no longer produce red blood cells at a normal rate. I have had extreme numbing in my hands and feet and swelling supposedly caused by lack of oxygen to my veins so they couldn't pump the blood properly. Now they are saying that i may have neuropathy. No one seems to know what is going on with me and I'm still hearing from some that it isn't caused by the Accutane (although my doctor is starting to take my complaints more seriously), but i haven't ever had problems like this before. Is anyone else having these problems? 

 

Just get off the accutane now, accutane is just hugely toxic amounts of vitamin A given orally. There are a million ways to cure acne with ZERO side effects, if your 3 months in and they are already treating you for secondary problems caused by accutane just stop taking it, it's really as simple as that.

 

The damage may very well reverse itself if you get off it, ultimately you have to consider your health. The doctor doesn't have to live your life for you, and if they are too stupid to realise it's the accutane thats causing the problem, do you really want someone like that giving you advice? 




#3365275 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 10 July 2013 - 07:26 AM

It seems to me that your reasoning is backwards, Chico. 
 
If your theory is correct, then UDCA + Blue Ice is the only way to eliminate the vit A. A one day trial will suffice - no negative results will show that the Vit A is being circulated by the Blue Ice and flushed to stool by UDCA. 
 
If however my suspicions are correct and your interpretation of the data is wrong, then Blue Ice will probably have a beneficial effect not seen by other vit-A bearing oils, due to its synergistic effects - the same pattern I observed for myself. 
 
In that case, the problem was most likely hypersensitivity and malabsorption. In which case, taking it together with UDCA for a 1-day trial is again the safest way. 
 
Note that TUDCA with coating is not a recommended or effective way to take UDCA for those with severe multi-faceted problems such as ours. It's 1/3 less bioavailable, and the coating can cause digestive issues that mask any benefit. The recommended dose is 1.5g/d of pure uncoated UDCA.

 

 

It seems to me that your reasoning is backwards, Chico. 
 
If your theory is correct, then UDCA + Blue Ice is the only way to eliminate the vit A. A one day trial will suffice - no negative results will show that the Vit A is being circulated by the Blue Ice and flushed to stool by UDCA. 
 
If however my suspicions are correct and your interpretation of the data is wrong, then Blue Ice will probably have a beneficial effect not seen by other vit-A bearing oils, due to its synergistic effects - the same pattern I observed for myself. 
 
In that case, the problem was most likely hypersensitivity and malabsorption. In which case, taking it together with UDCA for a 1-day trial is again the safest way. 
 
Note that TUDCA with coating is not a recommended or effective way to take UDCA for those with severe multi-faceted problems such as ours. It's 1/3 less bioavailable, and the coating can cause digestive issues that mask any benefit. The recommended dose is 1.5g/d of pure uncoated UDCA.

 

It takes more than one day to notice the side effects, it'll take around 1-2 weeks of constant use, the more retinol the more the effect. The dietary retinol goes into the body and is used in the vitamin A receptors, the accutane bound to the vitamin A receptors (because of the lack of other retinol sources) is then pushed back into the circulation / lymph. 

 

Bodybuilders that take oral exogenous hormones like dianabol, take udca to protect their liver during that time. When their taking this stuff they have their natural testosterone plus this synthetic derivative testosterone circulating in their body at the same time, the glucuronidation pathway is what the body uses to remove fat soluble hormones and fat soluble vitamins. So if taken without udca it can cause cholestasis via shutting down the bile pathways in the liver, thats when steroid users get into big problems. Ironically accutane is removed in exactly the same way, so theoretically it can cause exactly the same thing to happen. 

 

Blue ice contains 12,000iu in a teaspoon, i've noticed that 5,000iu is all the body needs for a full day, anything above that is overkill.

If your going to do this you NEED to be taking UDCA at at least 1 gram per day, you'll have to experiment finding the dose that's right for you it may be higher. Make sure your lymph is flowing via dry skin brushing or lymphatic massage, take kidney herbs to protect the kidneys, even still it's dangerous because it could potentially be a lot of retinoic acid flooding the body at once and will certainly cause symptoms of hypervitaminosis A, just be careful is all i'm saying.




#3365145 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 09 July 2013 - 05:20 PM

Retinol pushes the retinoic acid out of the receptors and back out into the circulation and cod liver oil has massive amounts of retinol in it. I strongly STRONGLY suggest you take UDCA and other liver protectors like milk thistle and NAC if your gonna go this route, that liver will be fried to a fricassee if you don't heed that warning. All that accutane coming out at once, 1000's of mg of retinoic acid, it'll clog up your glucuronidation pathway if you don't, so thats why the udca / tudca is important in this instance. Get some herbs for the kidneys or herbal kidney teas and drink lot's of that to take the strain off the kidneys. Even still your on your own on this one, your walking alone and i'm not following you into the breach, been there done that. But in fairness I didn't do it right, but it's some dangerous shit if your not careful.




#3360707 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 23 June 2013 - 05:40 AM

I'm saying the conversations are futile and posts have degraded into a pissing contest.
I'm saying that if you continue to suffer after taking this drug that is it-you will continue to suffer.
In my opinion those who delude themselves into thinking that there is some way they will one day recover are in denial- it's time to wake up and smell the 3 thousand useless posts on this thread. Nobody who suffers from real tangible side recover. End of story.

 

I cured my hairloss. Haven't cured the skin condition and obviously the scarring will never go away, but if i can stop the skin condition, then i'll do anything to do so. You say your skin is unbelievably dry, mine is too, i'm taking udo's choice oil at the moment and my sebum is back, hasn't been this way for years. I understand how you feel, but you either get back on the horse, or just give up, the latter isn't very appealing. 




#3360057 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 21 June 2013 - 02:19 PM

Does this seem like bullshit or is it just me? lol

 

http://www.hairgrowt...covery-Kit.html

 

 

 

my bullshit meter is in overdrive.

 

 

The bullshit is strong in this one biggrin.png. I can understand the use of the liver detox tea, accutane can damage the liver and in my case when my hair was shedding taking lots of herbal liver tinctures stopped it shedding. The bentonite clay is basically to bind any toxins that get released into the colon, if you've ever drank bentonite clay, it's an arduous task in itself just to get it down. I never really understood the drinking of clay, supposedly it binds toxins and stops their reabsorption. I don't think it's good for the body long time, it can lower nutrient uptake and food absorption. It's one of those things like liver flushes that are essentially pseudo-science based.

 

The hair formula is down right stupid and potentially dangerous. The minoxidil won't help accutane hair loss as far as i know, because the mechanism of hair loss is completely different. Normal baldness is associated with the hair follicles sensitivity to DHT, the DHT affects the absorbtion of vital nutrients required for healthy hair follicles, and the hair ends up getting thinner and thinner until it stops growing all together.

 

Accutane induced hair loss is usually associated with the hypervitaminosis A style effects of taking accutane. More specifically when the accutane leaves the fat cells or cell receptors it can cause a toxic shock in the body and hair loss can be triggered. Alot of people develop hair loss on accutane at the start or end of their course, supplementing vitamin A (retinol) or zinc (because zinc is the carrier for retinoic acid) potentiates the hair loss because both push the accutane out of the storage sites in the body.

 

This product actually has retinoic acid in it, i genuinely cannot believe that, how are you going to cure accutane induced side effects, by taking more accutane? this is just beyond comprehension. It'll probably worsen the side effects and overall toxicity doing this stupid shit. Save your money sdro.




#3359658 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by Chico Esposito on 20 June 2013 - 06:02 AM

A fair point well made, whilst saying that i doubt camaroz knows anything about martial arts, although i'm sure he'll try to spin us a yarn about his illustrious fighting past. Notice the lack of mention of height in his retort! knowing camaroz he would of relished proving Gladiatoro wrong by saying "ha i'm 6 foot tall" a glaring omission, concrete evidence that camaroz is in fact a short arse.