Nothing will cure my acne and it will never go away on its own. I will have this problem for the rest of my life.
Cool. And your point is?
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Posted by Green Gables on 26 August 2014 - 03:11 PM
Nothing will cure my acne and it will never go away on its own. I will have this problem for the rest of my life.
Cool. And your point is?
Posted by Green Gables on 26 August 2014 - 11:25 AM
If you actually look at the ingredients/formulation of Korean or Japanese skincare products, most of them are not unique at all.
Koreans who eat a more traditional coastal Asian diet have better skin because of the low glycemic load of mostly rice, veggies, and fish. High glycemic diets (the typical American diet) are notorious for aging skin (high glycemic loads contribute to loss of collagen) and contributing to acne.
Many Koreans also have great skin because they avoid the sun like the plague, while a lot of Americans and Europeans worship the sun. Next time you go to Korea or Japan watch how many girls are out there walking around with umbrellas and "facekinis".
I have a great Korean friend who had perfect, porcelain skin for most of her life. She moved to California in her twenties. Within a year of changing her diet...and it wasn't even that extreme, just adding regular milk consumption and the occasional fast food item...she had moderate acne. She still only uses "Korean" skincare products...didn't help one bit.
Posted by Green Gables on 19 August 2014 - 04:53 PM
These are the ones I would recommend:
Saw palmetto: reduces DHT (dihydrotestosterone)
Stinging nettle: reduces DHT
Curcumin: anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, improves glycemic control -- remember insulin/glucose are hormones, it is related to hormonal control
Vitamin D: prohormone necessary for basic health in all areas, skin included, many people are low/deficient
These are one I would not recommend for a first-timer. Not going to go into all the reasons. If you really care PM me.
Posted by Green Gables on 19 August 2014 - 04:20 PM
If you think of beauty as a combination of every physical feature you have, then yes you can be beautiful with acne. You will be more attractive without acne, but just having acne doesn't take away from all your other positive features.
I don't think anyone is saying that acne by itself is pretty. But that everybody has at least one other positive feature that is noticeable even with the acne. Even people I find unattractive on the whole usually have one feature I like.
It's all relative anyway. There will always be someone out there who is prettier than you. There will always be someone uglier than you. When my skin cleared up I realized that there were still a lot of my own features that I didn't like. If you don't learn to recognize the positive features while you have acne, you're probably just going to obsess over everything else you don't like once your skin clears up.
Recognizing the things you like about yourself is a good thing, and sometimes it takes another person seeing them for you to see it on yourself. It would perhaps be more helpful to tell people with acne what other features you do like, rather than just saying "you're beautiful anyway." If they have great eyes, tell them. If they have awesome hair, tell them. Then they can have good things to focus on.
Posted by Green Gables on 15 August 2014 - 11:12 PM
You could just use zinc oxide cream (zinc + vaseline), but it's not very cosmetically elegant. It's like smearing diaper rash ointment on your face.
Posted by Green Gables on 14 August 2014 - 09:13 PM
accutane is somekinda form of vitamin A right?
if i take somewhat hightened doses of just vitamin A supplement would it have similar effects? any effect on acne?
would i have any of the bad sidefects than acutane has like skin drying out, scars, premature wrinkles n such?
Vitamin A is a group of unsaturated nutritional organic compounds, that includes retinol, retinal, retinoic acid, and several provitamin A carotenoids such as beta-carotene.
Accutane is 13-cis retinoic acid. Although vitamin A does contain some retinoic acid, it's not very much, and I don't think it's even the same retinoic acid as Accutane. (From what I remember, Accutane is a DERIVATIVE of vitamin A so the retinoic acid is a different form).
There were some reports in the 70s and 80s of doctors recommending high doses of vitamin A as a "poor man's Accutane", but no doctor would ever recommend that now.
The Upper Limit of vitamin A set by the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Academy of Sciences is 10,000 IU per day.
The long and short of it is, while vitamin A can be beneficial for skin health, you're not going to get an Accutane-like effect even if you overdose, because they're not the same thing. Every once in a while someone will post and say that they took 50,000 IU a day or something ridiculous and it cleared them, but I wouldn't risk it.
Posted by Green Gables on 13 August 2014 - 04:05 PM
It does matter if it's actually acne because the treatment can be completely different. Some folliculitis is fungal, for example. Slathering on some Clearasil may help your acne but it will probably do very little for fungal folliculitis. Papulopustular rosacea looks a lot like acne but typically does not respond to acne treatments either. Galderma is currently doing trials for a drug specifically for papulopustular rosacea because it is NOT acne and needs a different approach. For years doctors treated it the same "it looks like acne" so let's give all the rosaceans Accutane. That blew up in their face when it didn't clear the pustules and it also made the other signs of rosacea (erythema) worse.
Lumping together all similar looking skin conditions is NOT a good idea and can harm the patient when attempting to treat it.
Accutane does NOT shrink the gland forever, which is why we have this nasty little thing called acne recurrence after Accutane. Sebaceous glands grow back over time. The rate of growth varies between individuals.
Posted by Green Gables on 13 August 2014 - 03:55 PM
Some medical researchers have said that the normal ranges are off because they are partially based on sick people, not healthy people.
We spend more time researching diseases and sick people. If you were perfectly healthy, would you volunteer to get your skin pricked and your blood drawn and do invasive testing? No. Even the paid baseline studies can be skewed because they don't really pay that much. If I'm a successful lawyer who's never been to a doctor in my life, spending 5 hours in a study for $100 isn't even worth my time. Yet that would be exactly the "ideal" person that the baseline should be measuring.
But sick people volunteer to get poked and prodded for FREE all the time, hoping someone can figure out why they are unwell.
We also talk a lot about testosterone / estrogen / progesterone on here, but the endocrine system is much more complicated than that. Hormone related skin problems could be attributed to thyroid or adrenals or blood sugar or liver as well...
Posted by Green Gables on 09 August 2014 - 05:03 PM
The safety of antibiotics while pregnant is somewhat disputed.
The newer research that is determining that healthy probiotic environments are created for each person while they are still in the womb and also while nursing (depends on who you ask, some say babies are sterile in the womb and nursing is the essential step, others don't). Past a certain point of growth you lose the ability to populate your own gut with beneficial bacteria. These bacteria can't create the necessary biomes in the gut even if you supplement at that point.
If you are taking antibiotics while pregnant/nursing you are potentially sterilizing what should not be sterile and preventing your baby from having a normal, healthy, functioning digestive system. The problems may take a few years to crop up, but you could be inadvertently subjecting them to IBS or other problems for the rest of their life.
Posted by Green Gables on 09 August 2014 - 02:06 AM
No I'm not never heard of taking it orally but I will look into that.i used retin a yesterday then took it off because my face felt very dry:( anyhow got a facial today and of course they make me feel awful they made me feel like I had the worst skin ever. Anyways I asked what grade and type of skin I had they told me grade 1 acne mild and oily skin but dehydrated:/ ugh! At least my skin looks good in my opinion..lol
Facialists make more money off of insecure clients than confident ones.
Posted by Green Gables on 08 August 2014 - 11:10 AM
Thanks for your post.
Accutane has been so tempting over the years as I dealt with terrible acne as a teenager that extended well into adulthood. A few doctors have almost shoved the pills down my throat because it was so bad. But I never felt like it was the right choice. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I would be fine, but when I read stories like this I'm pretty glad I found another way to control my acne.
Sorry about your colitis and other side effects. I hope you find solutions soon.
Posted by Green Gables on 08 August 2014 - 10:41 AM
I think it's a little bit silly to try to say that one person's acne is "hormonal" and one is "non-hormonal."
Geoffrey Redmond stated in one of his published articles in American Medical Association that "without androgenic action on the pilosebaceous unit, acne does not occur."
The easiest way to think of androgens is testosterone, which directly affect your sebaceous glands.
ALL acne is hormonal in that sense. Now, acne is a chain reaction, so there are is a pathway of androgenic action -> sebum production / blockage -> sebum mixing with dead cells -> bacteria feeding on dead cells -> acne. So if you are getting acne that has no connection to hormones, then it's not really acne. There are disorders like folliculitis which often look like acne but are created through a different process.
It's a lot easier to clear acne when you start at the root of the chain instead of at the end.
For example, spironolactone starts at the hormonal root.
Accutane starts at the sebum production step by systemically drying you out (there is some research that says that Accutane temporarily lowers testosterone as well).
Benzoyl peroxide is exfoliative and antibacterial, which is the end of the chain.
I will also mention that my skin has never done well on retinoids. Retinoids make the skin regeneration cycle faster. They are not exfoliative per say (exfoliative means we are sloughing off the top layer to reveal newer skin underneath)...instead of exfoliating, retinoids sort of "push" the bottom layer up at a faster rate.
What I've concluded is that retinoids work great if your skin "sluggish" at this natural regeneration cycle. HOWEVER some of us with acne have regeneration cycles that are already too fast. People like me get clogs because the skin is regenerating faster than the dead skin cells fall off. If you add retinoids and make that process even faster, you're just creating more opportunities for blockages and acne.
For people like me, the last thing you want is a retinoid, but you do want regular exfoliation. When "normal" skinned people exfoliate every day and they basically rub their skin raw. I can exfoliative everyday and it makes my skin look great because I have so much daily dead skin buildup to scrape off.
Just something to consider if you keep breaking out. It is probably not the spiro. You may not have the right skin type to be using Atralin or another retinoid.
Posted by Green Gables on 08 August 2014 - 09:04 AM
Most doctors won't give you anything topically for acne except benzoyl peroxide. Like you, doctors don't want to do ANYTHING to endanger a baby. There are a lot of medications that haven't been proven to cause harm but also haven't been proven to not cause harm. And it's going to stay that way since who is going to test something on a pregnant woman for a non-life threatening condition like acne? Nobody.
Since you can get benzoyl peroxide over the counter there's little point in seeing a doctor. And if you've already decided that Proactive is crap, well... I don't believe that benzoyl peroxide is magic, but it is one the most effective topical treatments because it oxygenates the pore and therefore can kill bacteria without causing bacterial resistance. No other topical treatment can do that.
You could also use a sulfur ointment topically, but you don't need a Rx for that. You can look for the Sulfur Butter and Cream Ointment. Sulfur tends to be the treatment of choice for adult acne because it is gentler to the skin that benzoyl peroxide.
Posted by Green Gables on 05 August 2014 - 06:31 PM
This was started with brenmc in mind, but I'd like to hear from everyone else.
Are any of you type 1 or type 2 diabetic?
How about pre-diabetic or insulin resistant?
Insulin resistance — also called syndrome X or metabolic syndrome— is so pervasive today that we evaluate nearly every woman who visits our clinic to determine her level of risk. Most are taken aback when they learn they either already have insulin resistance syndrome (or as I call it pre-pre diabetic) or are well on their way to developing it. Experts estimate that 25% of all Americans suffer from insulin resistance. We believe the percentage is much higher among perimenopausal women.
Because insulin is one of the “major” hormones, it’s also impossible for your body to balance its “minor” hormones (estrogen, progesterone and testosterone among them) until your insulin metabolism is balanced first. To put it simply, if you have hot flashes and you are insulin resistant, it’s going to be nearly impossible to cure the hot flashes without first healing the insulin resistance. Cortisol is also a “major” hormone – to understand it’s role in hormonal balance, read our related articles on adrenal fatigue.
The "symptoms" of insulin resistance are not well defined. However:
Insulin resistance is a clinical feature of type 2 diabetes mellitus and metabolic syndrome. In the early stages of insulin resistance, symptoms may not be apparent but when type 2 diabetes or metabolic syndrome develop symptoms may include:
• A raised blood sugar level that may cause increased thirst (polydipsia), frequent excretion of large amounts of urine (polyuria) and increased hunger (polyphagia). In addition, there may be weight gain or weight loss.• Weakness and unexplained fatigue.• Difficulty in concentrating and poor mental stamina - An individual may be sleepy and drowsy during the day time. This could be caused by insulin resistance or by nightly awakenings triggered by the need to urinate. Sleepiness is more pronounced after a meal that is rich in carbohydrates.• Overweight or obesity - Consuming large amounts of carbohydrates can lead to insulin resistance and individuals with the condition may be overweight or obese. The weight gained due to insulin resistance is usually difficult to lose. Typically, the fat is stored around the abdominal organs.• Excess carbohydrates in the diet may also cause other symptoms such as intestinal bloating, flatulence, constipation, diarrhea, nausea and vomiting.• High blood levels of cholesterol and triglycerides. These increases may not cause overt symptoms but in, severe cases, fatty deposits around the eyes may manifest.• Dark skin patches may be visible on parts of the neck. This is called acanthosis nigricans. Dark patches may also be present on the elbows, knuckles knees or armpits.• The hyperglycemia seen in insulin resistance may also cause frequent genital infections, such as thrush.• Raised blood pressure.
Also, Paleo, primal, or otherwise lower-carb diets do not always solve insulin resistance. The research is in flux. I have seen studies published that outright contradict each other. Some claim that the only way to "naturally" improve insulin resistance is to eat low carb. Some have found that in some people low carb at a certain point actually makes insulin resistance worse.
Maybe that's why for me, after years of eating Paleo, generally living a healthy lifestyle ,and exercising like a beast, my fasting blood glucose is still on the high end of normal. But who knows.
I definitely think there is a connection between how our body handles insulin / glucose and our skin, though.
Also to brenmc, are you on Metformin? This article compares berberine to Metformin and came out in favor of berberine. http://www.tahomacli...erine-diabetes/
Posted by Green Gables on 05 August 2014 - 06:11 PM
Geoffrey Redmond has probably done more research on PCOS and related hormonal disorders in women than any endocrinologist today.
His website is: http://www.hormonehelpny.com/
He has several articles on there which you should definitely read. If you have access to medical journals, he also published a lot on the subject.
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