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#3343323 Discuss This

Posted by k3tchup on 25 April 2013 - 04:16 PM

Read this off of amazon by mistake. Quite an interesting read. I would love to hear a discussion about this since these guy actually provides evidence. Do i personally agree with everything? Not really, however he makes valid points which i love to see.

 

"In acne, the pores get damaged and inflammation results. Pathogenic bacteria are there TRYING to clean up the damaged tissue by consuming it. The primary inflammation at the pore results from your own immune response to your own damaged tissue, not to the bacteria, though. In any case, the immune system is not meant to be deployed chronically this way.

Usually, tissue damage would be a sporadic event. Then the immune system would permit a short-term local infection. The scavenging bacteria---called pathogens---gently dissolve, absorb, and compost the damaged tissue as a free meal. Once unable to detect and dissolve more damaged tissue---as all the damaged tissue marked as condemned property is gone---the bacteria start to starve and die. Amid their crisis, the immune system, having exploited their free cleanup help, contain the remaining population before some survivors, through an adaptation called virulence, detect and eat cells of increasing health. The book Wild Health illustrates how this system, untampered with, results in astonishing healing capacity of injured wild animals. Yet generally, by assuming that infection is a crisis via immune poverty, we're perplexed by the ultimate healing outcomes [pages 92 to 93: http://books.google....oks?id=8FwqLh2a

2ckC&pg=PA92&lpg=PA92].

When the damage to your own tissue recurs chronically, though, eventually there's immune confusion: autoimmunity against your own tissue---which is found behaving like a persistent pest---and needless warfare on bacteria residing there for unusually long. Then you have continual inflammation---acne.

Killing the bacteria perpetuates the cause of acne, because the cause of acne is your own damaged tissue. When scavenging bacteria, called pathogens, are killed and thus cannot consume it and remove it, that might at first relieve some of the immune confusion and overreaction. Yet next, your own immune system will have to go gobble your own damaged tissue even more. This is less desirable than having bacteria consume the damaged tissue.

Pathogenic bacteria are much smaller than your body cells. They eat your damaged cells gently. To eat, they cause these damaged cells---abandoned by your immune system---to dissolve, and then they absorb the waste. By eating it, they compost the waste to tiny volume.

When a woman presents with E. coli on a pap smear, the gynecologist will likely admonish her, presuming she wiped her anus improperly. Yet the E. coli is likely there to help dissolve and compost degenerate tissue at her cervix so she doesn't form cancer tumors there [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16929170] [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2650710] [HeLa cells are cervical cancer cells used by labs: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6146569]. Online, you can see a basic discussion of bacteria versus body cells, and how they operate [E. coli is covered on the 2nd page: http://science.howst...ks.com/cellular-microscopic-biology/cell.htm].

On the other hand, when your own immune system---which has cells called phagocytes that are big and aggressive like tropical water's protozoa that eat by directly munching on cells---has to go clear your own damaged tissue, it's like your cells being eaten alive. This results in a lot of inflammation and, unless you eat optimally, a lot of scarring. And if this keeps recurring, your immune system increasingly considers that tissue of your own body as a pest.

Overall, there are five main things going on with acne:

1) Your fatty acids are imbalanced. Your diet is too high in omega6 fatty acids, leading to inflammatory prostaglandins driving needless inflammation. Omega3 to omega6 ratio is thought to be ideally about 1:1, whereas many persons nowadays consume a ratio as low as 1:20. Omega3 fatty acids restore proper prostaglandin metabolism, creating healing prostaglandins that quell inflammation. And rebalancing your fatty acids will likely make your skin oil thinner, less likely to clog pores.

Daily, you can take a tablespoon or two, though usually one is enough, of flaxseed oil, rich in omega3. Added borage oil, rich in one critical omega6 that many persons have trouble making, called gamma-linolenic acid (GLA), can make a big difference.

The oil ought to not be heated above 96 degrees, like the brands Barlean's and Flora and Spectrum last I myself knew. It ought to be refrigerated both before purchase---or during shipment---and at home, and used quickly once the bottle is opened. Flaxseed oil is extremely rapid to oxidize and go rancid, and eating that is perhaps worse than eating none. I would not buy capsules---whose oil is damaged by heat during encapsulation---and would buy only bottled liquid. I would use the brand Barlean's, which makes a combination product ["Omega Twin - Flax/Borage Oil Combination": www.barleans.com/flaxoil_blends.asp]. If standalone borage oil is ever sought, Barlean's makes the only liquid borage oil that I know of [www.barleans.com/specialty_oils.asp].

2) Your mucosal and skin flora are imbalanced. Your surfaces, because your body tissues have degenerated via previous assaults---antibiotics, vaccinations, excess grain, excess sugar, damaged protein, damaged fat, emotional devastation, needlessly stressful mood, deficient diet---are proliferating nonnative strains of microbes. Essentially, your surfaces are proliferating microbes that are trying to compost you while you're still alive.

Fit tissues proliferate native strains of bacteria called probiotics [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19711025] [www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18489317]---which live along with and support your body---naturally, at least if they're implanted in your gut soon after birth by raw milk [The Untold Story of Milk] [www.drrons.com/raw-milk-history-health-benefits-distortions.htm]. Raw milk, teeming in such acidic bacteria, was once used by aware MDs to routinely cure various illnesses, even tuberculosis (formerly called consumption) [http://openlibrary.org/b/OL7233177M] [www.realmilk.com/milkcure.html].

You can help rebalance the microbes by consuming soured raw milk [http://realmilk.com/where1.html]. The father of modern immunology, Elie Metchnikoff, Nobel Prize winner, tried to tell us this 100 years ago. Or you can make cultured raw vegetables, as indicated by Donna Gates and her book The Body Ecology Diet. Less favorably, you can use probiotics in a bottle, like the brands Natren or Jarrow.

Mainstream scientific researchers are at last catching up. Maybe one day, eventually, mainstream medical training and press will heed the information. Don't expect to hear it from a dermatologist---who instead will probably prescribe antibiotics to treat a symptom but perpetuate the cause---or on the news, or from a maker of topical acne treatments. Fix the gut bacteria, and inflammatory conditions---even periodontitis in the teeth [http://dictionary.re...ce.com/browse/periodontitis]---recede:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19785495
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17852859
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11768558
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18584522
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19018031
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12811208
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18050295
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19235886
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17119388
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19519444
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15220681
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19785495

3) Your body probably cannot process the resins in cooked red plant tissue (and maybe orange and yellow as well). Fat in plant tissue is associated with resin---such as forms amber fossils or forms petroleum in oil wells or are engineered into nail polish which all suggest how persistent these molecules are---and when the plant tissue is heated, the intrinsic enzymes that cleave these resin molecules are destroyed.

Some persons have mutations to handle them anyway, yet if you have acne, chances are slim that you have a mutation to make the enzymes needed to cleave these resins [We Want to Live (2005 Expanded Edition)]. [Basic enzyme function is covered on the 3rd page: http://science.howst...ks.com/cellular-microscopic-biology/cell.htm] When these uncleaved and aggregated molecules reach the pores, carried through by skin oils, they irritate and damage the pores.

Along with grain being highly inflammatory---by spiking blood sugar and causing both AGEs or advanced glycation endproducts and acrylamides to accumulate in tissues and deactivate and scar the tissues and thereby prompt the immune system to mark the useless tissue with inflammatory markers called cytokines to label them as condemned property and thus invite either pathogenic bacteria to consume it or summon the immune system's own aggressive gobbler cells to gobble it---the resins in cooked red plant matter, not the fat in cheese, is probably the pizza connection to acne that some people experience. A cousin of my good friend and roommate in college erased his acne by omitting pizza, which he had previously eaten much and often, though I had nothing to do with his experiment.

4) Your skin surface is too alkaline. With acidic bacteria native to all mucosal and skin surfaces, the body tries to keep what's called an acid mantle. As soap is formed by the action of a strong alkali---called saponifier---upon fat, soap is strongly alkaline and strips the skin's acid mantle. You can buy a low-pH soap (one that's acidic). When my sister had acne about a decade ago, I suggested to her such a soap. She said it helped, and she kept buying it awhile, though eventually her acne went away. I don't remember what the particular soap was called. If you ask Jerry Hickey, of Hickey Chemists, in New York City, whom you can probably reach by phone, he'll tell you.

Yet nearly any soap---even Dove which is supposedly gentle but used to cause me rash outbreaks before I fully recovered from eczema---is polluted with contaminants unlabeled. I fared all right, without inciting outbreaks, using Ivory. Now I use a soap, made by Self Health Resource Center, of just three ingredients---lard, water, lye---the way soaps used to be made. Being what a soap is, it's highly alkaline, but that's okay for me. You can then rinse with a very dilute rinse of water and raw apple cider vinegar, like the brand Bragg's found in virtually every healthfood store, to restore an acid mantle. (Reputedly, there are live acidic bacteria in it, yet I can't substantiate that, myself, since to me it seems acidic enough to have killed its own bacteria, and further I see no gas release from bottles.)

If using municipal water, I would use a shower filter, containing KDF and Chlorgon, to remove the chlorine. Chlorine, a powerful oxidant, kills bacteria and causes tissue inflammation. In fact, chlorine gas was chemical warfare in WWI to kill soldiers in trenches who breathed it [http://en.wikipedia....iki/Chlorine#Use_as_a_weapon]. For most persons, with shower water, the effect is either slow and subtle or just happens on the interior in places, like arteries, lacking pain sensors. If you have a prominent inflammatory condition, though, the difference will likely be noticeable. If you go awhile without exposure to chlorine, you'll notice a flareup after a long hot shower where you breathed much chlorine, or even after walking into a closed bathroom that's had a broken toilet continually running.

5) Your diet overall is poor at protecting and regenerating your tissues. Yet I won't discuss diet, since diet for most persons rivals religion, while just addressing the above four---especially if you cease applying manufactured body products to your skin---will probably be enough to reverse the acne."
 
credits go to the author
 
 
wish he would have talked about diet...



#3343317 Less Judgement, Please...

Posted by k3tchup on 25 April 2013 - 03:54 PM

Just tibits i'd thought i'd add:

 

Acne in textbooks (atleast for my nursing classes which are used for the whole state) are lacking god awful amounts of information; evidenced based information. It is repeated in my maternity/ pediatric textbook that acne is NOT caused by diet. It is stated many times. However medline plus (evidenced based site) states otherwise, yet future doctors and nurses are being preached "not diet related".instead is related to puberty related to increase in hormones and bad hygiene practices.

 

Anyone on this site who has done research knows there are more causes and more exceptions to the rule. However do not reticule doctors and nurses because this is what they are taught.

 

So my advice is be your own advocate. Investigate your own causes, aggreviating factors, and what works and what doesnt. In the meantime be supportive of each other.

 

I've had my roundswith alternatvista, i do not agree with everything she posts or advocates for. However i respect her opinion and her dedication. I wish people would do the same. If that means that they completely change their diet, added some product, something in or out of their life and it worked then so be it. Congratulations. For those that try and nothing happens or works, try try try again. Do not blow up at us or them or whatever.

 

 

Yes, i am back from a long hiatus. Although i like to keep touch as there is always new information or things to read up on.

 


#3308361 Att: Members, Please Read!

Posted by k3tchup on 05 December 2012 - 12:22 AM

I agree with you, and him. Reasons being are that one you are blinded by the reoccurent anger that you let drive your life for you because of acne. Yes, some of us can manage those emotions better than others which is one of the reasons why he says dont let it run your life. It took me months, maybe a year for me to realize being mad all the time at me, at it, at others for providing helpful advice or insight was not the answer. I took that drive and used to it to help myself, i used it as motivation, and i developed a "dont give a shit attitude" which helped me get by the tough days. Just remember with any thing moderation is key as its not okay to be that way all the time. Back to the point, you have a right to be mad, but realize that we've all been there, you are not alone. Its just that some of us are at different stages- some are recovering, some are in denial, some are forever mad and hopeless. All in all its a painful process for anyone to go through as its pretty much the same as long as it continues that i've seen. Some people just cope differently. For him, and for me after i saw light at the end of the tunnel i felt compelled to "pay it forward"- to help others and provide insight.

So dont be angry at him for trying to help. We've all been there. We know. We are here for each other as we are not the enemy. Do not forget that.


#3299798 I'm Sick Of These Spots

Posted by k3tchup on 03 November 2012 - 12:18 PM

suicide= a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

no its not worth. it does get better; talk to someone first, anyone. then try the regimen for starters


#3294114 Housebound For 10Yrs, Bdd

Posted by k3tchup on 11 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

i dont know what to say other than those around you should not have given up on you and that you need professional help. you can try everything under the sun and more it might not work however it doesnt mean you become a recluse for the rest of your life. we live with this every day for the rest of our lives so you have to make do wit the best you have. I know this is just a vague ramble however there is not much i personally can say in this situation and i will not feed you pity to fuel your vicious cycle of emotions. you need proffessional help.


#3289766 How I Cured My Acne (W/o Medication Or Drugs)

Posted by k3tchup on 25 September 2012 - 10:54 PM

As a person iknow what is like and ask "if it works why ask questions" and i won't argue with what works for whoever this works for.  Great if it works however  i tend to look at things based on knowledge and previous experience and reflect on it.

I can say that this
Vitamin A -- 20,000 IU

Vitamin C -- 5 grams (Get the powder Vitamin C)(Intake throughout the day)

(Maybe) Vitamin D -- 5,000 IU (You should get Vitamin D from the sun, 10 minutes min.). If you're a reclusive vampire, make sure to supplement.

Zinc -- 50 mg

Vitamin B5 -- This is if you have oily skin. ~1 gram(s). It's completely non toxic. Also with B vitamins you should take them with the other B vitamins.

B-Complex - You want to get your B-complex vitamins throughout the day. You urinate water soluble vitamins, so make sure to replenish.

Pro-biotic - One with multiple strains of bacteria and over 15 billion units. 80-100 billion units total daily.


Is scary.

everything ive done (today) can be done with supplements as well although the point is im not using any supplements besides pro/prebiotics for lactose intolerance, either way the following can eliminate the use of such heavy supplementation:  Eating better is the key, moderation, knowing what your consuming and how it will effect you, and encompassing some sort of excercise routine* into your life is key. (excercise can even be walking for 30mins 2-3 days a week).

Vitamin A is fatsoluble so watch your intake and check for signs of OD, also depends which type of Vitamin A you are taking (from cod liver oil, synthetic, natural ect),

Vitamin C is water soluble and has an RDA of 300mgs or so... and your saying 5grams? Sure its peed out but that doesnt mean it has no effect on the body... such a high dose can cause water balance problems which can effect other systems especiallly sodium and potassium levels partially because Vitamin C increases fuild retention and draws water into the GI tract which in this case would most definitely result in a bad case of diarrhea. I took 1gram for a week and had these results..

Vitamin D is from personal experience did not help and made things worse because its came from cod liver oil (most of the time- read your labels). Some people have no problem with this, i did.

Zinc, aww yes how can we forget. Just watch your intake and GI symptoms as this guy can not only impair copper intake as well as lead to defiency in other minerals like iron (which will cause anemia resulting in fatigue and malaise) it can cause some nasty GI problems and terrible dreams. Take 2hrs after a meal for best absorption and avoid calcium as they compete. Other than that i cant say more than, i tried it, it worked but took awhile to see effects but also had effect on my hormones (over time) lead to bad GI problems.

B5 is great for sleep, and great for PMS in women. No real problems for me anyway though i do not take it anymore. No need. Same with bcomplex.

EFA's are debatable and even recent data says they DO NOT help. Its debatable and some people have problems because of the sources in which the fats come from and the balance of omega 3,6,9 in the body. Too much of 1 of these effects the other and can be counter productive.


Supplements are great and i see they helped ya but as a general for warning not always the answer and expensive long term.
I did all this and more. Today i basically get all the same stuff by just knowing what im eating. Cereals, oatmeal, and wheat bread are great for your b vitamins and using apple juice, fruit, or something in between is great for getting your boost of Vitamin C in the beginning of the day. Vitamin A and Zinc would come from fortified foods which by the way are supposed to absorbed the same way regular vitamins (except folic acid which is better absorbed in synethic form than natural).

Basically the above needs to be applied when eating and you elminate the need for megadosing and its much safier. You would be better off if you took coenzymes and a low dose multi with eating right/healthy than megadosing on X amount of pills.

However, what works for you works. Although as a health care person and soon to be professional (*crosses fingers) i would advise against it in an effort to say your body from harm.


Just providing this out there for those that read old threads. Remember safety and good practice otherwise you could end up with a srs condition that could result in permanent damage. I for one am a victim although a lucky victim.


And as a note i did not read the rest of the post and mostly focused on the supplementing though i did read the h20 intake and that right there is so crucial and probably one of the most important parts besides eating better, healthier, and with a plan.


#3289182 The Words "butter Face"

Posted by k3tchup on 23 September 2012 - 09:45 PM

Just remember "those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.


I love quotes such as this. In essence it is right.

Yea, i would have a similar reaction if someone said the same to me.Please do not get yourself down about some inconsiderate asshole who is just playing nice.  People like him have the wrong agenda anyway. Why would you want to fall right back into that- just saying since your last break up was that painful, this guy would do that and worse if hes like what you just described.

Practice better judgement. People are not always what they seem, and some put on pretty good shows and there true colors are NOT what you would expect.


#3283027 List The Things Acne Took Away From You....

Posted by k3tchup on 02 September 2012 - 11:05 PM

This most likely will be strange to most of you if not all. However have you ever thought of what the experience of having acne has given you?

First off, let me add to this list by saying
-my cofidence around woman is next to zero, if not zero. I for some reason seek "approval" and i dont even know im doing it. I feel unwanted, and a second class citizen around people my age. I have never, ever, felt like have "belonged" to something or someone in 6 years. I'm 21 now so basically then it meant not fitting in, now it means so much more that im older.


However, what has acne given me besides so much hell?
- utter respect to those who have had it worse than me
-empathy/apathy
-complete understand and experience in so many ways
-a desire to want to help people
-has opened my mind, helped shaped whats really important in my life, and what i want in a person (would rather have a gf with acne than be a super model)
-has reduced my ego. When i was growing up i was a terrible, insensitve, cruel person that judged people on looks, made fun of my sister at times even.
-i use to brag about myself like i was god's gift to man and always compared myself to my sister. That way of thinking was corrected for the better.

i dont know bout you guys but would you be the same person today if you didnt have acne? Not that anyone wants this, but its an experience that if you really understand it and understand others it shapes who you are as a person for the good and bad. You have to recognize both and choose* what and who you want to be. Yes you have a choice. Yes, its easier to believe the bad stuff, but remember also the humanity it has given you...


#3283024 Fake It Til You Make It - How To Overcome The Most Destructive Feelings Assoc...

Posted by k3tchup on 02 September 2012 - 10:41 PM

Hey a familiar face. Glad to see you back over here AKL. I too have been absent from these forums because of the negative emotions (which are understandable, but hard to read at times..) and feelings as well as the reminders i get from comign back here. However, i feel much better and can approach the issue without feeling terrible about it.

That aside, its good to see strong support for each other and a reminder that if the depression or the feelings you have are that bad, please by all means seek professional help. Tell someone.. anyone that will listen.


#3282996 What Your Acne Is Telling You?

Posted by k3tchup on 02 September 2012 - 09:46 PM

This "facial map" reminds me of phrenology which is classified as a pseudoscience by the way. This to me is just the same thing.


#3252932 This One's For You.

Posted by k3tchup on 06 June 2012 - 11:52 PM

I've been absent from this site for awhile and as a side note want to keep it that way. I litterally hate this place, and find this the most depressing section of the forums all together. But, all this dislike is not out of hate per for the site but the memories, desperation, the sadness, deep drepression, hopelessness, and defeat i felt when i came here. Because im a very proud person i hated to admit defeat and join in what i saw as a pity party to make ourselves feel better .. well its not, thats the anger speaking, however i couldnt help but feel it.  Well, my attitude may never change about "all this" but i feel i need to come back once more just say alitle somethin. Though because of all the hurt do not expect to return here..often if at all.

I have digressed as i look back on my time here. My orignal purpose is below; this is for you:

So, my grandios idea was to become free of this burden and pain in the ass that i thought was hindering me from living a normal life. Well yes that is somewhat true because no one wants to look the way i did, no one wants to be judged or looked at differently to the point they have no friends and are as old as iam and not even had a gf. So my strife was to become clear so that i could live and do all these things just to live. That is the wrong mind set. I have only seen this now because i have become clear and have this pain in the arse under control. I still have some scars but i look better than i have in years. But you know what? Nothing seems to have changed...
I feel so proud that i can look people in the eye now, i feel so up lifted that i can have a normal conversation with any stranger and or do my job as a nurse. But you know what? People still treat me the same as they previously knew me... which tells me I obssessed WAY to much. I let it run me down into the ground like it mattered that much on how look to the point i was not worthy to even live. Boy was i wrong.

What im getting at is this: 1) we only accept the love we think we deserve-as acne suffers we think we deserve nothing because we dont feel human, we dont fit in, and we dont feel worthy. We are our own worst critic.. you have to realize that what we obsess about isnt important to others, nor do they care so don't let it control you.2) Whether it comes down to how tall/short/fat/skin/acne or no to the majority of us(those that judge you) IT DOESNT MATTER. We dont judge you nor do we care about what you see as flaws, we judge how you are as a person-character, attitude, personality etc. Its taken me a long time to realize this... and i wish that others could see that what we obssess about daily, matters not to the decent people around you. Society is cruel, but there does exist decent, nice people that care not how you are on the outside. Sadly, i have not seen this until after the fact. I feel terrible now because im for one clear and two i was a mean person because of it and that gave me a bad image to those nice people that were just being nice...


Lastly, i wanted to say this in closing of my long rambling ( i hope it makes sense as im tired..).  I went out to a restraunt today and had supper. The waitress that waited on us was a tad what you would consider "overweight" and had acne. And you know what? I thought she was one of the most prettiest, cute, adorable girls i've seen in a long time. Now you dont know me... but ive never dated (and im almost 22) and even those close to me say i have a high standard in women. My online friends post pics of chicks all the time-the ones that look like models and are only 16 and they do not appeal to me one bit. Hell, I graduated with like 200 people, most of which were what many would consider "hot" (model bodies, perfect everything, money, smart, ect) but out of all them NONE compared to this chick that waited on us. So she had flaws, but i seen right passed that and seen she was a very nice, bubbly, cute, adorable person. For once in mylife i feel like actually asking here out lol.. but im just to damn nervous and i think up many excuses on why i shouldnt (im too old, shes to young, ect). There exist more people like me out there so don't fret on how you look just live and be the person you are and show you're true colors as people like me do notice. This is what matters..

So if you reading this and you have the same mentality as i did i want you to know that your thinking is wrong (i want to save you so to speak).Do no think you have to be clear inorder to live, or inorder to enjoy life, inorder to be noticed in a good way, or even date. Do not get hung up that clear skin is everything as im clear and still working my way there and srsly things arent different..and lastly this is for you, you are beautiful. Dont ever forget it.


#3225897 Need Help With The Body Shop Products

Posted by k3tchup on 16 March 2012 - 12:31 AM

To me all the body shop products are crap and not what they used to be years ago before they sold out to L'Oreal. But if they work for you then why switch?

Again I have never used cetaphil nor would never use their products either as i find anything that ISNT an extremely light moisturizer to heavy for my skin and leaves a greasy feeling and even a film. You should check Makeupalley on the diferences in reviews. The products themselves well i would guess the cream would be heavier product as creams are generally heavier than lotions. Both are probably good but its personal preference. I myself don't need any moisturizers but am going to buy one here shortly, its expensive though

http://www.amazon.co...4/dp/B0002ZODA6


#3223893 First Attempt At Diluting Sa: Fail

Posted by k3tchup on 09 March 2012 - 01:16 AM

ugh... alcohol in that percentage is a no no for skin. I understand lots of products contain alcohol and are actually beneficial to the product and skin penetration (read up on garden of wisdom for this) but not like this.

You should use distilled water instead if the SA is too strong.


#3223892 Can Someone Pleease Help Me What Am I Doing Wrong

Posted by k3tchup on 09 March 2012 - 01:10 AM


...i dont just eat 1 apple per day.. lol oh no. Its 3 apples, 5 bananas, 6 peaches, and then whatever else i can find. Thats daily.

haha!!!  Wow!!  You must be super active!  Posted Image

Edit: ....ah, just saw in your "about me" that you are indeed quite active!  hehe:)


lol ya! I use to eat like this before i was active, but now i have a good excuse to continue lol :)


#3222408 Just Prevent The Acne And Get It Over With!

Posted by k3tchup on 04 March 2012 - 01:05 PM

*Moderator edit - Quoted post removed*


You know we may all be human and have the same make up i.e. organs and such. But we each are different and so the crusade to "prevent and cure acne" becomes very hard. Its like trying to cure a strain of bacteria causing illness that mutated into a new strain from person to person. Some are able to treat and effectively manage it with relative  ease while no matter what others do they just cant seem to help it at all.