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#3462248 vitex...GOOD OR BAD EXPERIENCE ?

Posted by hearts on 02 December 2014 - 09:12 AM

I've heard that can happen in some cases... I had the same problem for the first few months but I was warned beforehand that it would happen. I also had the heaviest cycles I've ever had (I am normally very light) and at one point I was panicking, thinking that was my life now! lol But after a few months my cycle returned to normal, thank goodness!




#3460439 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 18 November 2014 - 10:12 AM

Hi hearts

Thanks so much for your post . I actually have tried progesterone cream but I'm not sure if I'm taking the right amount or taking at the right time . Can I ask what brand you're taking ? Also how much and when do you take it ? Morning and night ? I think progesterone deficiency is definitely an issue for me because i was also taking progesterone shots during my pregnancies and they didn't give me breakouts - but would that cause acne only around ovulation time ? I have facial hair and get the breakout right at ovulation time so I thought that pointed more to testosterone but being that all the emotions of each deficiency are so similar it's really confusing me . Thank you so much for answering me in all my confusion

 

I'll answer your questions in a PM shortly — I don't want to hijack more of WishCleans topic on inositol! An important thing to remember is not one hormone is the "bad guy", usually it's multiple factors causing the imbalance so it may take a little trial and error to get things back on track. 




#3460311 Forhead Acne

Posted by hearts on 17 November 2014 - 04:08 PM

Hello everyone! Well I've suffered from acne from around 6th grade and now I'm in 8th grade... Nothing severe and ever since I've changed my eatinn habits it has started to clear up but I still have acne here and there! I have a couple little small pimples around my face such as chin & cheeks... But my forhead is horrible! I have tiny small colorless pimples all over and it sucks. I can't get rid of them and once some go away new ones pop up! They either turn red and form a white small head and then leave or they just stay there. I would like to clear it up and I really do think it would make a huge change in how my skin looks. I don't know if it's hormonal or maybe when I eat something during the week it happens? I wash my face every day with the Simple Face Wash and moisturize with their moisturizer too. I exfoliate with their exfoliator once a week. I wear makeup but always wash it off and I only wear a light concealer and mascara. I included a picture of my forhead sorry it it disturbs you sad.png( any help or advice is appreciated!

 

I didn't see your picture attached, but since you're only in 8th grade, your hormones haven't had time to settle yet... please avoid taking anything that alters your hormones (including accutane and birth control) until after puberty! That is the best advice I can give you. Even though it's difficult, you need to wait until your older to evaluate if you need hormonal treatment.

 

In the meantime, my advice (which you don't have to take!) is to make sure you stop any bacteria in it's tracks... when I was still breaking out, using hydrogen peroxide on a cotton ball nightly helped tons by not letting the bacteria spread. Make sure you use clean pillowcases and you wash your hair frequently. If you have bangs or let your hair fall on your forehead, this could be a big part of the problem. Treat your skin nicely — don't use anything harsh and limit exfoliation. If you can, you may want to look into changing your concealer because some are more comedogenic than others. Good luck!




#3460302 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 17 November 2014 - 03:26 PM

Hi Wishclean,

I've been reading this thread for the last 2 days trying ti get some understanding of how inositol might work with acne and hirsutism. I'm still really comfused so I thought you might be able to shed some light ! I'v always struggled with acne since I was 13 ( I am now 35) . I've had clear years and not so clear ones but the problem's always been there. I've been pregnant 2 times and both pregnancies( and while I was nursing) I was completely clear - not even a small pimple. Now that I've weaned my daughter off a little over a year ago, I've started to break out in cysts on my chin again around ovulation time. My hair is thin, I also have more facial and body hair than the average girl, get extremely crazy around my period times and crave sweets . I feel like it is an emotional up and down. I know there has to be something up with my hormones, but I'm not exactly sure what it could be. I took vitex for a while (maybe 8 months) and it worked perfectly, but then suddenly i started getting the chin breakouts again. I used to get hot flashes before my pd, but  I am also taking DIM for what i though might be estrogen dominance and thats helped with the flashes too.  If I am completely clear in pregnancy, does that mean that I don't have an estrogen dominance and I have a testosterone issue instead? would i have broken out during pregnancy if I had estrogen dominance to begin with? I'm not sure which hormone to target anymore , it's all so confusing and they overlap so much! It seems like you really know what you're talking about , so I hoped you could help! Any and all advice or insight would be appreciated

Hey girl1777, another thing to consider if you were totally clear during pregnancy is low progesterone... progesterone levels skyrocket during pregnancy, especially in the third trimester. The fact that vitex helped you (raises progesterone) and you have had positive results with DIM (improves estrogen to progesterone ratio) makes me think that it could be a solution for you. You can get natural progesterone cream over the counter, usually at health/natural food stores. If after a few months of using it nothing has improved, at least you can eliminate that target. NPC helped my anxiety/moodiness around my period as well so it could prove useful for multiple symptoms. Good luck and best wishes! (:




#3449417 Finally Had Clear Skin Now I'm Pregnant And Skin Is Worse Than Ever!

Posted by hearts on 28 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

Interesting hearts, thanks. If you've been taking this along with DIM, perhaps that's the key to your success? I've read of people taking liver support with DIM in several places but I have been too nervous to add anything else at this stage. However, I'm now thinking I might need to add NAC to see the full benefits of DIM?
Have you read or seen anything about NAC causing an initial breakout, I know liver detoxes can do so? What about taking NAC with inositol, would that be too much change to my glucose metabolism?
Thanks!

 

Yeah, I'm really not sure if it helped at all or not. I took it before DIM and it didn't affect my skin. If it made me break out (like an initial breakout) I would have stopped taking it. I don't think NAC/l-cysteine has "detox" side effects, at least it didn't for me. I take 500mg daily, but I think you can take up to 1600mg or something. Maybe if you take high doses you can experience detox symptoms.

 

I'm not sure if continuing to take l-cysteine post DIM is helping me keep on track, either! When I forget to take it I don't see a difference in my skin (no breakouts.)

 

I think you're right about not adding anything else at this point... it's too early to know if DIM alone will be enough. If at 4 months it's still not helping then you could add it as a last test with DIM. Though I think NAC/l-cysteine is awesome, how each individual reacts to each supplement is a mystery until they try it.

 

You might want to read this article about how NAC acts similarly to Metformin for women with PCOS. This is another article on the subject. 

Here is a thread on Soul Cysters where a few women mention that they take both inositol and NAC together. Please note post #14 on there... she ditched metformin and spiro and feels much better on the other supplements! (: Here is another thread specifically about the subject. I also took inositol and l-cysteine together without a problem, well, except for the weight gain but I don't think that's because I was taking l-cysteine.

 

Hope that helps! (:




#3449081 Finally Had Clear Skin Now I'm Pregnant And Skin Is Worse Than Ever!

Posted by hearts on 26 August 2014 - 09:59 AM

I just looked into the DIM Detox formula... apparently it has a lot of other ingredients including CDG. It also looks like it focuses on liver support (hence the name) since it also contains things like NAC, ALA, and milk thistle. Here's a link to the source: http://www.pureencap.../dim-detox.html

 

I've read mixed stories on CDG (calcium-d-glucarate) — some women have success with it while others don't (just like any supplement though, I guess.) Did your doctor look at all the ingredients before telling you that it was okay to take while pregnant? I don't know much about it but I thought CDG wasn't safe during pregnancy... I am also still convinced that DIM shouldn't be taken while pregnant either, since it's directly influencing your hormones and is an anti-androgen.

 

If you can handle all of the ingredients, it looks like a pretty good supplement but it's quite expensive. I would be worried to take it personally because there is so much in it... I wouldn't know which ingredient was causing side effects if any. I'm glad it works for you though, LeksiBabi! (:

 

By the way, I get liver support from l-cysteine (NAC is a product of l-cysteine) because I do drink. I wonder if this helped at all while I was on DIM. Something else to think about!




#3448157 Skin Is Only Clear During My Period! Recommend Herbs/supplements?

Posted by hearts on 20 August 2014 - 03:14 PM

hi! My skin did improve a lot with spiro though it did not completely clear me up, I think I was on it for a little over 2 months.. maybe if I would have stuck with it longer I would have cleared?

 

Today I purchased DIM plus, Flax, and Saw Palmetto (25% off whole foods supplements woohoo!)    

If you were me would you start out with Saw Palmetto only? or do you think I could take both saw palmetto and DIM? also unsure about whether I should incorporate Flax, I've read that it contains "good estrogen"

 

I get 1000 iu of vitamin D, I think I once calculated based on my weight that i require 3 or 4000 iu but I don't really remember. 

 

thanks for your response!!!

 

Two months was not long enough to know exactly how much spiro would clear you, but it's a good sign if it helped even in that amount of time. Perhaps an anti-androgen will clear you if you stick with it. (:

 

However, I recommend only starting one thing at a time. If you are taking more than one thing, you won't know which one is helping or even causing you to break out or give you side effects again. Take one supplement for 4-6 months before adding another or switching to another supplement. That gives it enough time to adjust your hormones and then you can evaluate your results.

 

And 1000iu of vitamin D is still pretty low.

 

 

How is  DIM an anti androgen :0 ? 

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/12665522




#3444379 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 30 July 2014 - 11:06 AM

Thank you so much for the encouragement about losing the weight caused by inositol! It makes me feel better. (: 10-15lbs makes a big difference on my frame and like you said before, it won't budge even if I work out extra hard. I agree that eating the right foods can give me enough if I feel that I need it later. I found the following list on the SoulCysters forum in a thread about it causing some girls to gain weight from it. I think I can manage to eat some extra hummus if required. (;

 

Lecithin contains 2100mg per 100g
Chick Peas contains 760 mg per 100g
Brown Rice contains 700 mg per 100g
Wheat Germ contains 690 mg per 100g
Oranges contains 210 mg per 100g
Peas contain 160 mg per 100g
Grapefruit contain 150 mg per 100g
Strawberries contain 95 mg per 100g
Cauliflower contains 92 mg per 100g

 

I'll respond to the DIM related stuff on your other thread here: http://www.acne.org/...now-what/page-3 I just realized that WishClean's thread was jacked by our DIM discussion. Sorry, WishClean! ):




#3444204 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 29 July 2014 - 02:03 PM

Hey hearts,

For some reason when I went to amazon.ca and tried to purchase it, at the payment stage it said 'cannot be delivered to your location' or whatever. Perhaps because I live on an island? I don't know. Thankfully, my mom found Nature's Way DIM Plus on another website that would deliver to my location! So I am happily awaiting the Nature's Way brand. I decided it would be best to wait for that one because it has such fantastic reviews.

I'm not sure how much to take because each capsule only contains about 12.5mg of actual DIM, I believe. It does have the added mgs of broccoli and cauliflower powder. How many pills/day did you start with and what do you think a good dose is for me, given my situation?

I know it's been said that it's not a great idea to take DIM with spiro, but I was thinking about it and I don't really understand why that would be, since DIM is also an anti-androgen, why would that have a negative interaction? Either way, I do plan to wean off of spiro if I see improvement with DIM.

Do you have any tips for me while taking DIM Plus? Is there a time of day that I should take it? Should I drink extra water to flush toxins out that way?

Thanks!

 

Awesome! I'm glad that you were able to find a place that ships it to you. (: Each capsule contains 50mg DIM complex, so 2 capsules is 100mg and the recommended dose. I don't know where you read 12.5mg but you'll see when you get the bottle that it says 100mg per serving. It also has 100mg of veggie powders, so technically each serving is 200mg of total supplement (though not all DIM). I really like the capsules because they are quite small compared to a lot of supplements.

 

How much spiro are you taking, again? If you have bad painful acne, I would personally just start at 100mg (2 capsules). You can choose to work up if you want, but from my own experience of not working my way up, it doesn't matter. I just wanted to get clear and like I said I even took 150mg to speed things up for a while. I had a bunch of cystic and those hard nodules like you described in the other post, along with a little non-inflamed stuff and DIM cleared all of it. You can always lower the dose once you're clear if you want later. But again, do what you want... you don't have to take my advice!

 

As far as recommendations for taking it... it's good to take it with food, at least in the beginning. It even suggests this on the bottle. The only —and temporary— side effect that I had was some mild stomach cramping. I read another review on Amazon of someone having that problem as well, and they said food helped. It's probably gas generated from the vegetables or something, haha. I am particularly susceptible to stomach cramping though, like when I eat too much. Anyway, that went away within a couple weeks. After that I could take it on an empty stomach no problem. I don't think time of day matters, though it's maybe worth taking note that testosterone/androgens are higher in the morning. You could space it out from spiro if you want. Since I was taking two capsules a day, I just took one first thing in the morning and one before going to sleep.

 

Plenty of water is good for you no matter what you are taking! (:

 

I really hope that it works for you! I can't think of a reason why it would necessarily be dangerous to take with spiro, but just try to pay attention to how you are feeling while taking both and go from there.




#3444008 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 28 July 2014 - 12:41 PM

Thanks so much for replying hearts! Yikes, what you said about i-3-c and c-d-g makes me nervous! Is the initial breakout with these two almost inevitable then? In the success stories you read about Estrosmart, did they mention an initial breakout?
I bought the Estrosmart because I take the Glucosmart by the same line. But you think just plain DIM would be safer with spiro? The article mentions i-3-c's interaction with birth control pills, so that makes sense. And DIM addresses androgens and estrogen? I obviously have an issue with both, based on my PCOS symptoms. What dose of DIM did you take? What brand?
Thank you!
PS
Did you delete your topic on DIM, I couldn’t find it?

 
Oh, I didn't mean to scare you! It's not inevitable... not everyone gets an IB with any of these supplements. You may be perfectly fine with Estrosmart, no initial breakouts or anything. I am just trying to give you more information to think about. I considered taking CDG before DIM but after reading anecdotes of girls breaking out from it, I decided to try DIM which had fewer of those stories. I3C does make me nervous if you are taking other medications alongside it, though. In fact, it even says on my bottle of DIM that it is superior to I3C because of it's instability. I'm not super knowledgable on I3C though, so you can take what I'm saying with a grain of salt.
 
WishClean, am I totally remembering incorrectly or did you try CDG for a little while?
 
If I remember right, Estrosmart reviews are about the same as other DIM supplements... mixed. It works better for some than others. An IB wouldn't be predictable from these stories. I'm not trying to push you into using it, but the only real way to know would be to try it. Here are some threads on the actual Estrosmart acne board, though!
 
I took Nature's Way DIM Plus. When I started taking it I was living with my parents who live less than 5 miles from Nature's Way in Utah, so the entire brand was easily obtainable locally and I trusted them. I live in Denver, Colorado now (500 miles away) and I see Nature's Way products here, but not as much of a selection. I took 100mg (two capsules daily) but I was impatient after a month or so and to speed things up I took 150mg (three capsules) for a few months. After I was clear, I lowered the dose back down to 100mg. DIM Plus isn't that expensive ($18 a bottle — $9 a month) but I actually bought a bottle of plain DIM from Piping Rock which I was going to try. It's super cheap ($7 a bottle of 90) and each capsule is 100mg so it would have lasted me three months! I weaned off before trying it, though so it is just sitting in my cabinet unopened, haha. I buy other supplements from Piping Rock (l-cysteine, etc.) and they are great so I imagine that DIM would be good from them too. Not sure if they ship to Canada... If you want me to, I could try to mail you the bottle.
 
DIM does help with excess estrogen (supports estrogen metabolism) and it is a natural anti-androgen as well. If you suspect that both are a problem, it could be very beneficial to you.
 
I do think if you want to stay on spiro and add DIM, taking a plain DIM supplement would be the safest and have less risk of side effects. Ultimately it's up to you and what you're most comfortable with, though! (: Ginseng is supposed to be a hormone regulator, and it can also affect blood sugar. I took it for a few weeks (hoping to help hypoglycemia) and saw no difference in absolutely anything, but maybe that wasn't long enough. I just really need to remember to eat to control blood sugar.
 
Oh, and I did have my thread removed. It had spiraled out of control and I'm strongly considering starting a website that is completely focused on balancing hormones naturally. I repeat myself so many times on other threads and in PMs so I think it would be good to have my experiences and research mostly all in one place.

 

P.S. To update anyone following my progress with quitting inositol... it has been a little over a month. My skin and hair are still great but I haven't been able to drop the weight, yet. I realize I was taking it for 6 months and it might take a little longer for my hormones to readjust, so I'll continue to be patient.


Sorry for the long post.




#3443900 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 28 July 2014 - 12:11 AM

Indole-3-carbinol (I3C) is the precursor to DIM. From what I found back in researching the differences between the two, DIM is more stable and has less potential side effects. Here is an article that explains some differences, about half way down the page. I want to point out that it also says the following: 

 

Since diindolylmethane does not induce the wide array of enzymes that I3C does, there is less of a chance of interaction with other nutrients, hormones or medications. With I3C, antacids and heartburn medications will tend to change an individual’s response due to I3C’s dependence on stomach pH for activation.

 

It would personally make me nervous to take spiro while taking I3C, where it wouldn't with DIM. Also, it's just my opinion but I don't recommend taking one of those cocktail supplements... you wouldn't be able to know if DIM was helping and CDG was making things worse, for example. I have heard of people having IBs from CDG but of course that's not the case for everyone. I have also read a lot of success stories with Estrosmart, etc. so who knows.

 

I don't see any problem with taking half the dose and working up if it's not helping enough. My bet would be that a lower dose would give a smaller initial breakout if that were to happen — not prevent it, though. To answer your question, no I did not have an initial breakout with DIM. It worked slowly and subtly until I was just totally clear, about 4 months.

 

And I agree with your spiro hypothesis. It definitely raised my estrogen levels, even though it's not really supposed to. However, if your acne is caused by excess estrogen or androgens, either way DIM helps with both.




#3437069 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 20 June 2014 - 10:55 AM

Hey ladies,

 

hearts, my regimen now consists of spiro, metformin, zinc and vitamin D. I really didn’t want to go back to metformin and be stuck taking two pharmaceuticals but, sadly, nothing I tried since last summer worked. I kept thinking (and writing on this forum) that the spiro had stopped working, but I now believe it was the inositol that lost effectiveness over time. It’s possible that this had something to do with the brand I was taking or some other factor(s), but I’ll never know. Since being back on metformin my skin has improved (although not to pre-last summer/inositol resistance state).

 

Previous to any acne treatment, (although after starting and quitting birth control as a teenager, which I started at 15 or 16 to control my heavy period not to address acne because I did not have nodular acne until post-birth control) I would get approximately two nodules a month. After starting and quitting Diane 35 (to address the nodules), I had the worse acne and year of my life as a result of a horrendous rebound effect from quitting Diane (new nodules almost daily). I took spiro and metformin to great success for a couple of years and then inositol and spiro to great effect for a couple more (until last summer). Now back on the spiro and met combo, I still get nodules around my period, which I never did during the “successful years” of these meds. I’m not sure what’s going on here, any ideas (I don’t mean to highjack this post but you ladies are so helpful and it’s related to hearts query about my regimen)?

 

brenmc, I'm sorry to hear that you are still breaking out around AF, but at least it's an improvement from what it sounds like! I'm unfamiliar with Metformin other than it helps control blood sugar. Seeing as that benefits you so much, it's clear that both you and I had different causes for acne. It also explains why NPC didn't help you when you tried it, so I'm sorry that you bothered with that route at all. ): Again, I'm not that knowledgable on the subject but from what I understand, until insulin resistance is fixed it is very difficult to balance the other hormones.

 

I'm glad that you seem to have figured out that it wasn't spiro that lost effectiveness, but inositol. Did you ever try D-Chiro inositol or just Myo? Do you think spiro is still helping you? Do you take a multi-vitamin or minerals? There are some other nutrients that help with stabilizing blood sugar including Chromium, Glutamine, B Vitamins (specifically Thiamine), Biotin, and Zinc (which you are already taking.) I'm not saying taking one of these would be a cure all, but they could help. Since taking adequate amounts of vitamins, minerals, and amino acids I have felt much better overall (less dependent on hormonal treatments) and I think without them I wouldn't have been able to wean off of DIM without breaking out.

 

I'm sorry I'm not more helpful with your situation... my only thought from what you've said is to focus on the blood sugar issues and perhaps the other hormones will start balancing or at least reacting better as well.




#3436921 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 19 June 2014 - 10:19 AM

@ hearts, glad you are losing weight! Yes, I think thin women tend to gain weight on anti-androgens, that's just one of those things we have to put up with for clear skin. The only time I actually lost weight was on vitex and then on multivitamins....DIM seems to be making me a bit bloated, especially if I take more :/ Not sure why, though....can you think of any reasons? My only guess would be that, along with lowering the bad estrogens, it's increasing the good ones...could that be why?

 

Yeah, something like that could be a possiblity. The common misconception is that DIM reduces estrogen overall; when it actually just helps with healthy and efficient estrogen metabolism. It increases the chance that estrogen will be broken down into the good metabolites (2-hydroxy) instead of the "bad" estrogen metabolites (16-hydroxy). Also, when you have issues metabolizing estrogen, it leaves extra in your body that can cause negative symptoms... DIM can help with that. I don't think DIM is raising your estrogen, though. 

 

DIM could be causing you some weight gain and water retention because it's an anti-androgen. It's another one of those that when people take it that need to lose weight, they have great results. My other hypothesis is perhaps that even though DIM is helping you with estrogen metabolism and androgens, your estrogen levels still might be a little high. I used progesterone cream pretty much the entire time taking DIM so that may have helped me. Anytime my estrogen is too high, I just don't feel right and have lots of symptoms. Everyone is different though, so it's hard to say in your case. How much DIM are you taking?

 

However, with all that being said, apparently inositol lowers testosterone AND estrogen over time... which makes me think in your case that it's more of the anti-androgen effect rather than too much estrogen. If inositol lowers testosterone overall, it would probably explain why I gained some weight and feel generally less toned. I didn't think that taking such a small dose (250mg) of an "unofficial B vitamin" could affect me so much.

 

Another weird thing about stopping inositol is that I started spotting... I am not due for AF for another week or so. I'm sure it will level out though, I am still using NPC.




#3436760 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 18 June 2014 - 11:20 AM

Wow, I didn't even think of that. And there I was wondering how I could have gained 5 pounds in just a week hitting my brand new high. So it could be inositol? Crazy. I have taken it for 2 months now. Though I don't think I'm gonna stop, I don't have problems with weight, if anything this is motivating me to exercise more which is great tongue.png

 

Thanks for the reply, lifelong confusion. It's good to know even more firmly that I'm not alone. However, I'm glad it's working for you! I know that the weight wouldn't be as critical for everyone, so if you like it you should stick with it! (:

 

 

Hey hearts! As I mentioned a while ago, I was noticing some bloating with inositol but only during certain times of the month. Now that I added DIM, I think I gained some weight and am retaining more water, but I guess that's the risk to take with any antiandrogen because many women also gain weight on spiro and birth control. Did you gain any weight on DIM, and are you still on it?

Have you tried decreasing your inositol dosage? Perhaps it would work better for you in a b-complex. I read that it helps with weight loss, but my guess is that it only helps with that IF you need to lose weight in the first place. I think on thin women it can have the opposite effect if taken in higher doses. 

 

Hey WishClean! How is everything going for you? Is the DIM, etc. still working for your skin? I am not taking DIM anymore, I stopped around the end of February. My skin is still really good, though! I didn't notice any side effects on DIM, I just felt that I didn't need it anymore after getting back in balance.

 

Unfortunately it was more than bloating on inositol for me... during PMS I woujld gain even more but that water retention would drop off and I would be back to the high weight. Rinse, repeat. If I felt more benefit from taking the inositol I would try lowering the dose but there just aren't any reasons to. I took it directly alongside my B-complex so I doubt that had anything to do with it either. Your ideas are great though, hopefully they can help someone else reading this that's going through the same thing! I think you're right about it helping with those who need to lose weight and taking the opposite effect for those who don't. I'm pretty sure that the soul cysters who said they gained weight on inositol were thin or thinner to begin with. It seems like that is the same for spiro and other antiandrogens when I looked into it.

 

 

hearts, I don't think I gained weight on inositol but it was nearly impossible for me to lose weight on it. I did every boot camp and workout regimen possible and still couldn’t drop any weight. However, clear skin was more important to me so I stuck with it (until it stopped working last summer).

 

WishClean, I didn’t know Advil was bad for you. I probably only take it once, maybe twice, per month (as I said, to reduce inflamed nodules). What is bad about Advil? Do you know a natural supplement that helps to reduce inflammation quickly as an alternative?

 

It definitely seems like a tough balance to achieve, lowering testosterone without increasing estrogen (or estrogen symptoms). It’s super confusing as well. In another post, I wrote about the correlation of spotting and acne, which is apparently a result of low estrogen; however, I have other symptoms of high estrogen, like weight around the waist and lowered sex drive.

 

I thought you and others on this thread might be interested in this article I found about the correlation between birth control and insulin resistance. This may partly explain the prevalence of PCOS in women of our generation. I would venture to hypothesize that taking birth control early in life may contribute to long-term disruption of the complex relationship between sex hormones and insulin.  http://humrep.oxford.../17/7/1729.long (Re: third paragraph down in the Introduction.

 

Thanks for the input, brenmc! I feel you on the not being able to lose the weight thing while taking it... it was weird to be gaining weight as the weather warmed up because my activity level goes up quite a bit with hiking, swimming, etc. It's too bad inositol stopped working for your skin... what is your regimen now?

 

I'm not an advocate of pharmaceuticals or even OTC drugs, but I did do the same thing as you, brenmc — I took Advil (ibuprofen) a few times a month when I was still breaking out and it helped with the inflammation significantly. I have been told by others that stuff like that is really bad for you and even carcinogenic but I have never bothered to look into it. I figured if I only took it occasionally that it would be fine and I don't like to add more paranoia to my life! (: The only negative thing that I know can happen is stomach bleeding when taken excessively or consistently with alcohol. When I was younger, my mom always told me to make sure to have food in my stomach when taking it, which I'm sure helps. As far as natural anti-inflammatory remedies go, I know chamomile, ginger, and turmeric all help, but I haven't tried them topically. Here's some more info on the subject.

 

Thanks for the link! It's very interesting. I don't think I have PCOS or IR (I do have hypoglycemia) but I know taking BCP early in life really messed up my hormones. If I could go back and not ever take it, I would!

 

Update on quitting inositol: I have already dropped about 1-2lbs. Let's hope this keeps up! (:




#3426805 Inositol's Impact On Hormonal Acne

Posted by hearts on 17 April 2014 - 10:13 AM

I am having such a bad time with acne.....i get 4-5 new painful heads every week...

More than falling hair,I am stressed out because of my face.Its completely covered up by acne and scars.....And the zits hurt so much.

I don't want to go back on birth control pills.Right now,just sticking to inositol.

Has Inositol helped you with acne?If yes,how much time did it take for you to notice any effect??

This battle seems endless.

 

inpursuit, I had hair shedding for quite a while and was worried about it so I tried taking inositol and choline. It stopped the shedding in its tracks after only a week or two. It's definitely worth a try. If it helps your skin it will be an added bonus! (: