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In Topic: Treating Hormonal Acne The Natural Way?

25 November 2014 - 08:34 AM

So I'm back to square one.This is sooo devastating. I am now taking vitex to help with my irregular cycles but so far no change in that department. I also recently started taking inositol 1g but I sceptic about it because I don't have (not that I know off..) PCOS or insulin problems. I also take and have been taking for months a multivitamin with vitamin A, C ,D , B-complex , Zinc etc.


Hearts sorry if this is a dumb question but  what is NPC? Vitex did help regulate my period before but I guess it stopped working after a while.

I'm actually quite interested in trying progesterone cream. The symptoms that I have (other than acne EVERYWHERE and irregular periods) are headaches&migraines, night sweats/hot flashes, mood swings/depression but I think it's due to acne. I had quite bad hair loss before as well but it seems to have calmed down now (knocks on wood). This makes me think I could be low on either estrogen or progesterone and then I also have high DHEA like I've mentioned before. Do you think progesterone would help? If I decided to try it should I stop vitex or any of the other supplements? What brand did you use and how long till you noticed the results? When should I apply it if my cycles are super short (14-19 days lately..)? It used to be the other way around, I just can't keep up with these hormones! It's really annoying having a period every other week I think I'll end up anemic if this won't stop soon

Sorry for all the questions I'm just so frustrated and desperate :'I !!


Yeah, if you are having serious side effects after giving it enough time to adjust then do what you think is best for you... it's not worth risking your health for clear skin. There are literally hundreds of options out there to try if one thing (no matter how popular) doesn't work. Don't lose hope! (:


NPC is just abbreviation for natural progesterone cream. If you want to know more, send me a PM about it... there are a couple members here that seem against it for some reason so I stopped talking about it so much on this board. Again, what works for some doesn't work for others. I think it could help a lot with your irregular periods, hot flashes, migraines, and even leveling your mood. It may or may not help your skin... it's really hard to say. I used Emerita Progest daily (not certain times of the month) about 20-40mg (1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon.) Took 3-4 months (the first 2 weeks were like bad pms due to hormones receptors waking up but after that it was smooth sailing.) However, I had severe cystic acne all over so I had to take DIM to clear the rest (mostly on my back) up. Vitex helps with progesterone levels too (as well as blocking prolactin) — has it helped you at all? I'm not sure how it compares to the levels in actually using progesterone, however. Hope that helps!

In Topic: Help With Dim

21 November 2014 - 01:14 PM

Hey hearts,

Good luck with the weight loss, I'm sure it will work out.

Maybe inositol builds up in our system. I mean, this is just one hypothesis, but maybe that's what happened to me at the start of this rabbit hole over a year ago. Perhaps the inositol built up (with the spiro) and increased my estrogen too much and now, even though I'm on DIM, the inositol is working against it. I'm planning on weaning down my 600mgs of inositol to see if I can get some relief. If anything, at least I'll find out whether or not I need to be on it. The only hiccup in this theory is that antiandrogens worked on my acne in the past. Clearly they haven't been working lately, but they did. Which makes the whole thing more complex than simply lowering my estrogen.

Just an idea, but maybe you should try CDG to cleanse your liver and body of built up estrogen. I'm on it and it has not exacerbated my skin at all.


That's a good theory, I could see that being a possibility. Why are you concerned about anti-androgens with lowering inositol? If inositol is hindering DIM, getting rid of inositol should improve the anti-androgenic effect of DIM, right? DIM is an anti-androgen in addition to it's ability to metabolize estrogen.


CDG honestly scares me because I have read about people breaking out from it. I found nothing about Myomin causing acne, in fact it helped a few people from what I read.


I hope lowering inositol helps you! (:

In Topic: Taking Spiro As A Last Resort (Male)

21 November 2014 - 01:06 PM

This is just my opinion, so feel free to ignore...


Spiro seems like a horrible idea for a male to take! It will not only lower your testosterone but it can also be estrogenic. Even I (female) had a ton of estrogen dominance caused by it. At 100-200mg it is used by trans women, for goodness sake! It's not surprising you started developing breasts or you have no libido.


Why not take an anti-androgen like DIM that also helps metabolize estrogen? Even bodybuilders sometimes take it to help metabolize estrogen. You need proof it's an anti-androgen? Check it out. Another anti-androgen is saw palmetto but I've heard that can be a little estrogenic.

In Topic: Help With Dim

21 November 2014 - 12:43 PM

Hi hearts,

I have actually been taking three DIM per day since July 1st, I remember because that's Canada Day.

I can't really say if DIM is improving my skin or not. The frequency of my breakouts is hard to judge since I have been off and on different medications which have changed the duration and frequency of my breakouts from none in four years to one every other day. I can say I have not had consistently clear skin in over a year. And some of the nodules I've gotten over the last few months have been the worst of my life. Yet, my period is regular and I've lost weight. So DIM seems to be doing something.

I would post pictures if I kept them but I've found that it's bad for my mental health to have pictures of my breakouts on my phone. And my phone is the primary way I access the Internet. So I always delete them a day later.

Let me know if you come up with anything regarding inositol and increasing breakouts and/or interacting with DIM, and I'll do the same.

I really found inositol prevented me from losing weight, until now I guess when I've taken it in conjunction with DIM. But before when I was on inositol and spiro, I did a ton of boot camps and diets and could not lose a pound. I really think DIM is your best bet. Good luck! Xo.


I understand about the pictures, no worries! Especially if you don't have a computer where you can hide them, that would be quite demotivating to look at all the time.


I'll keep looking at inositol with DIM... haven't found anything yet.


What do you think you'll do now? I feel so helpless with your situation now... I don't know what to tell you because you have tried practically everything that helps with PCOS acne, at least that I know of! Hmm...


So I have decided not to add DIM back in. Today I ordered some Myomin — which is kinda expensive, even here in America! I don't plan on buying more than one bottle (120 caps) and I don't even plan on taking the full dose. My reason for trying Myomin instead of DIM for the weight is because I was on DIM with inositol and still gained weight, unlike your situation. My thought is if DIM could help me lose weight (which it didn't, even before inositol), it would have at least stopped inositol from making me gain especially at that little of dose. I think I need to stop my testosterone from converting into estrogen and lower estrogen all together, which is what Myomin does. Anyway, it will be interesting to see if it helps! *crosses fingers* I read somewhere that it can work in as little as 10 days but I can never really trust numbers like that. I believe it's possible to wean/stop it later with no problems, too. I'll keep everyone updated.

In Topic: Help With Dim

18 November 2014 - 04:26 PM

Hi hearts! It's nice to hear from you. Thank you for thinking of me. The support on this forum is invaluable.

I agree with you completely, no good can come from picking a cyst or a nodule. Sometimes the urge is just so overwhelming, especially if you're very eager to see some progress.

My skin is still troubled. I have been on DIM for four months now. This is the longest I've ever stuck with anything that hasn't sorted my skin out. Definitely an exercise in patience. The other night I stumbled across an old post that WishClean wrote in response to someone who wasn't having success with inositol. She explained that in some cases (especially if you eat carbs or sugar) inositol can actually make insulin resistance worse. Well, I restarted inositol at the same time I started DIM. I wonder if it could be slowing my progress or working against me. What do you think?

I've also been revising my topical treatments because I seem to have a bunch of underground whiteheads. I came across some interesting stuff on barbary fig oil aka prickly pear oil. Apparently it's high in linoleic acid, something acne-sufferers are low in. Do you think that could help?



Hey brenmc, thanks for replying. I'm sorry that your skin is still being stubborn! I recall you starting DIM on the first week of August, so it probably has been long enough to tell how it's working... especially since you've lost weight on it. Has your skin improved at all on DIM? Or are you where you started/worse? Since you don't post pictures (understandable)  it's kinda hard for me to keep up with your progress.


That's interesting about inositol and insulin resistance... now I am starting to think that's what happened to me with the weight gain, actually. No matter what I do to increase testosterone lately, nothing helps. It's possible that inositol could be interfering with DIM, but it's kind of impossible to tell without taking one without the other. I took both with no problems, aside from weight gain... but then again I started inositol when I was already clear.


I've never heard of barbary fig oil! I'll look into it a little and get back to you. I do know that linoleic acid (or at least conjugated linoleic acid) can improve insulin resistance among other benefits. Now you have me really interested! (: