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28 September 2012 - 05:10 PM

Hi Paolo. I don't really post here anymore (not since 2011 I believe?) but I do creep the forums sometimes and more regularly now that I'm posting my progress on my own blog with going Caveman. I was previously water-only since 2011 and I experienced congestion on my forehead and chin and dehydration. My acne cleared up but since maybe the summer my skin started getting oilier-looking and more congested on my forehead so for the last ~3 weeks I've been on no-wash. I'm not strict about it, my mantra is basically "don't wash your face on purpose" so I basically just ignore my face. Whatever water gets on it while showering (not usually a lot, more so in the form of minor splashing or sprays of water) is what constitutes a washing for me, then I pat my face down. I rubbed my face down a couple of times and it definitely did make my face oilier-looking, and made my marks look much worse for a day (in my opinion). I assume I might keep doing that as I see fit, and hopefully it will need to be done less and less. I do find that exfoliating like that results in me being more likely to break out as it definitely irritates my face.

But basically, my advice to you would be to stop over-analyzing it and to not over-think your actions. Follow your intuition, but if you are determined to stick to a product-free routine then keep those instincts within this type of routine. So I'd not say moisturize unless you feel that it really is required. But my face felt really uncomfortable when I first went water-only and it eventually settled down.

I've done Caveman off and off in 2010-11 and was water-only (rinsing once a day or less) since 2011, so I definitely have some experience with this. I have 2 zits rihgt now from picking and from using lotion on my body, but otherwise things are getting better for the most part. It's just the clogging that I have to wait out. I check back regularly enough so if you need further advice or whatever feel free to post :)


17 December 2011 - 05:34 PM

Hi everyone, my name is Ashley, and I just wanted to post a little something here for those still interested in water-only or Caveman routines.

I stopped posting on these forums in the summer. I now only return to post update pictures in my gallery of my red marks and scars. I've been clear of acne since August or September, but I still get a few pimples here and there (these are just not acne-related, as they are not consistent or regular). Aside from the scarring, red marks, and minor flesh bumps on my forehead (due to my picking and scratching habit I've yet to fully break), my skin looks and feels fantastic.

I just wanted to let others know how I did it, and just let everyone know that it's a long, hard battle. You won't clear up right away. It took me a number of months of not using skincare products and doing water-only with a washcloth or Caveman to get my moderate to severe acne down to mild, and after that another 2-3 months for the acne to completely clear up. I didn't have skin I was really happy with until 4-5 months on water-only. And there are going to be unpleasant hurdles to deal with, like increased oiliness, redness, itchiness, clogged pores, flaking, dryness, dead skin, etc. So it's something you have to commit to for at least 2-3 months, and commit to it without making any changes whatsoever.

For water-only, I don't recommend going out of your way with it. Just take your shower like you normally do and that will be when you wash your face. You don't need a filter, you don't need to monitor the temperature unless you also do so for your body, and you don't need to time how long you submerge your face in water. Just stop thinking about it. Keeping your mind off of it and not stressing over it will make a huge difference. Just live your life as though acne is not an issue, and things will hopefully fall into place if such a routine works for you.

Anyways, if you want to know more about my water-only routine, I have a closed log with a bunch of Q&A on the very first post, so that might help answer some of the questions asked lately. I've been water-only for my whole body as well, and my hair, and it's worked wonderfully. My body was (and still is a bit) dry when I started, got really dry for a good 6 months, and then looked just fine. It gets a bit flaky on my legs, but other than that my skin looks and feels pretty normal. I also have a gallery which you can check out to see my red mark progression, which starts about 2 months after my acne had gone back down to mild and some of the redness had started fading.

Log: http://www.acne.org/...61#entry3113261
Gallery: http://www.acne.org/...s-and-scarring/
Blog: http://www.acne.org/...red-up-my-acne/

The best of luck to all those who undergo water-only or Caveman, although I do suggest water-only over Caveman. I really hope everyone will be able to find their "cure," as well as having a great Christmas this year. I will not be replying to this, so if you have something urgent to ask me you can try PMing me, but I don't check PMs unless I am uploading pictures.

In Topic: My water-only skincare experience, almost completely clear of acne.

21 July 2011 - 02:13 PM

That also has a lot to do with it. I've tried water-only when I'd constantly keep caring about my skin and kept wanting to do something for my skin, and it didn't seem to help. But once I let go of the control and just let my skin get all gross, it slowly got past the gross and now looks okay.

And I'm glad I was able to help you out! Hopefully this log will still help others out even after I've left. I guess I'll just have to make sure to post updates periodically, maybe just posting pictures to show improvement in red marks and indents and such.

Well, this is my last post here on the Org as a regular member! All my posts are edited out, and so.. I'm done smile.gif I'll be changing my password to something random that I cannot possibly remember, and when time comes to make an update I'll be sure to retrieve the password, and then change it again. This will be my process from now on whenever making updates. PMs and comments will be left open, so they are still accepted; just won't be replied to for a while. Again, big thanks to you all, and I wish everyone the best of luck! Remember that my email is always available if I'm needed.

In Topic: My water-only skincare experience, almost completely clear of acne.

21 July 2011 - 01:49 PM

Manly, this is a beneficial routine for those whose acne is primarily caused/exacerbated by using skincare products, as our skin is either too sensitive or we are using products that are too harsh for the skin. That or they simply have no negative or positive impact on the skin. The purpose is to allow the skin to return to a more balanced state in which it can pretty much care for itself, as it is meant to do. This hopefully allows for the skin to completely "re-learn" how to 1) maintain a balanced level of hydration and retain its water, 2) shed itself effectively, 3) take care of the infection (which is the purpose of the immune system). Reverting to water-only also eliminates any potential external controllable variable that contributes to irritation, dehydration/dryness, excess oiliness, and of course acne. For those who find success with this, their acne not only diminishes or completely goes away, their skin also becomes a lot healthier. I've been at this for 6ish weeks, and while I still have a few pimples, I stopped breaking out daily, and my skin feels so much better. The few pimples I have left were due to the cleaning solution at my gym, and they are almost healed now. The rest of my issues are minor clogs near my nose, a couple of flesh bumps, some minor flaking again on my cheeks where my skin was the most damaged, and red marks/scars. I really don't even consider myself an acne sufferer anymore, but am not comfortable declaring myself clear due to the remaining issues I do have. I even started doing water-only for my hair, body, and mouth. With the use of a comb and bristle brush before showers, my hair is insanely shiny and healthy; it looks like that of a shampoo commercial model. My body no longer gets ashy and dry with the exception of my lower legs (only mildly dry, I assume that due to how much exfoliation I've done to my legs that it will take longer to adjust) and the soles of my feet. I also get less sweaty and less smelly, although I do still use antiperspirant when leaving the house. And my mouth, I no longer get canker sores and it is just as clean as it used to be, and my breath is the same as it was when I'd use toothpaste. I actually brush my teeth better now that I've stopped using toothpaste, and I now actually floss and make sure to use a homemade salt rinse!

Acne is not really a hygiene issue. If you allow your skin to return to its original pH (or very close to it - using just water allows this to happen), then your acid mantle is able to remain on the skin. The acid mantle is a combo of sweat, oil, and bacteria (and possibly dead skin, I can't quite remember). It is a barrier placed upon the skin to help with defense against invading bacteria/viruses. So, ironically, not washing your face is one of the simplest ways to allow your skin to better protect itself. Yes, some people need products. But in most of those cases, the acne was either adult onset or occurred right as they entered puberty. My acne, and I'd assume most of those who find success with this routine, did not begin upon hitting puberty. Mine occurred when I was 14 and tweezed my eyebrows for the first time. It was only around my eyebrows. I then used Oxy pads and other crap, which made my once-normal skin slightly oily and caused sebaceous filaments to form. I then moved on to makeup and skincare products and set up a routine. By the time I did all this, I had very mild acne, maybe 5-10 pimples. A year later, my acne was now on my body (I started using body products at this same time) and had doubled in its number on my face, and my skin was insanely oily. Even those who had/have adult acne or hormonal/genetic acne have been able to find success with water-only or no-wash routines, as their acne was being made worse by whatever measures they were taking to try and help the acne. Once their skin calmed down, the acne was better able to clear up.

Considering my current success and those of others here and on other websites, it clearly can and does work for some. Just like how the DKR works for some, or any other type of routine works for some. Nothing works for all who have acne, but that doesn't mean that one routine cannot and will not at all work for some.

In Topic: My water-only skincare experience, almost completely clear of acne.

21 July 2011 - 01:20 PM

Thanks smile.gif But just a heads up, the first few days can actually be quite awesome in terms of the way the skin looks and feels, but the majority of people will experience issues once they near the end of the 1st week and going into the 2nd. So while you may be seeing great results now, you may also see the unpleasant changes in the coming days/weeks. Hopefully it won't discourage you from giving this routine at least one month of trial before deciding on whether you like it or not if you do experience those negative temporary changes biggrin.gif But yes, based on your skincare history, it could be that your skin would have adjusted differently or a bit faster; I had to be off of all skincare products since January this year before I started seeing my moderate acne go back down to mild, but I was using a washcloth most of that time, which made the acne and redness worse. So I would assume that anyone who has not had an extensive history with skincare products might be able to adjust a bit better. I am really loving your attitude as well, I hope you maintain it!