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#3480629 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 11 May 2015 - 09:48 AM




#3480007 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 05 May 2015 - 01:00 PM

My skin is on the drier side, but it's not bad.
And hey, I still remember how oily it was back in the acne-days.

For my skin, I use a tea tree oil foam (so nice when you wash off with cold water).
Then, I have an anti-aging moisturizer I use (I have the night and day version of Nivea Q10 - was in offer at the time and works well).

My face is then smooth and softer for the day.


#3470457 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 04 February 2015 - 12:25 PM

To add to what I was saying, when our body is in stress mode, it's priority is to just try and survive.

It's not to have a fully functional penis.

I think Mother Nature kind of controls things like that... it doesn't want 'sick' people to reproduce.

I wouldn't be surprised if we (as we are at the moment) would be unable to produce a baby.

 

But I'm not trying to add worry.

I just want to point out what should be obvious.


Yes, we all want amazing sex all the time.

But there are a lot of things we have to lose out on, for now.




#3469633 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 27 January 2015 - 05:33 PM

'accutanereallysucks' sucks more than Accutane.

Get the fuck out of this forum, bitch.




#3468492 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 18 January 2015 - 05:10 PM

https://soundcloud.c.../leave-me-alone

 

Hope y'all are okay.

On a completely unrelated note, it'd mean a lot if you check out my 2-minute track.




#3467111 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 08 January 2015 - 02:07 AM

IndigoRush you seem to me very intelligent from first time i see you and your post you prfectly seem like me.you put things so good ! Only difference between me and you my health it s not as bad as yours.I take test for adrenal fatigue and i have mild-moderate adrenal fatigue.I just find this on a website.
THE PUPILLARY REFLEX TEST

 

Materials needed: a flashlight.

To do this test, one shines a flashlight into one of the patients eyes.  The light can be shined from the side so as cause minimum discomfort to the patient.

If the oxidation rate is fast (acute stage of stress), upon shining the flashlight, the pupil of the eye will constrict and remain constricted for at least 30 to 45 seconds.

If the oxidation rate is slow (exhaustion stage of stress), the pupil will constrict, but will then quickly dilate once again and remain dilated, or it may fluctuate between constricted and dilated.

When i do the test my pupil fluctuate.After this i search slow oxiders and what i found.Slow Oxidizers

A slow oxidizer is an individual who's Thyroid and Adrenal glands are underactive, resulting in a slower metabolism.

Slow Oxidizers are more prone to chronic fatigue, weight gain, Copper toxicity!!!!!!!!!,hypoglycemia and a slower digestive system leading to fewer bowel movements.

Perfect describing ! The things fit perfectly i am so happy we know what the problems are.1 Week ago I start to treat the adrenals and the leaky gut with this things :
1.A good diet
2.Coconut oil (for a good function of thyroid and adrenals and for healing the gut
3.Now's Probiotic (For healing the gut and restore intestinal flora
4.Adrenal Supplement
5.B complex
6.Vitamin C over 1000 mg/day
7.Digestive enzymes
8.Zinc 15 mg /day (not enough for chopper toxicity ?)

Can you please tell me what is your strategy for restore your health ?

Good bless you and A healthy life !

Yeah man, my hair mineral analysis advised I was a slow oxidiser.

It sounds like you have a good plan on it.

I take 22mg of zinc (1 a day).

If you take too much at once, copper is released from the brain/liver and ends up entering the bloodstream and staying there for a bit if it can't be released.

This then leads to terrible anxiety and overall worsening of symptoms.

I tried taking a couple of zinc's for 2 days while I was working a couple of months back.

I felt worse than ever. 

Definitely a connection there.

 

I'd advise you check out a book called 'Depression Free, Naturally'.

It's really good, if not a little confusing with it's supplementation recommendations.

However, you'll find many things to back up how you're feeling.

There are chapters on anxiety and chronic fatigue.

There seems to be growing evidence that Chronic fatigue is caused by A.F and C.O.

Copper overload can occur more often in woman, as the pill and IUD (for contraception) are high in it.

Overall, the modern diet promotes copper overload, and zinc deficiency.

 

For anyone with chronic stress, it's pretty much guaranteed.

http://drlwilson.com...ty_syndrome.htm




#3466886 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 06 January 2015 - 06:07 PM

Has anyone done this. ..done that?Wow. No one gets it. No wonder why no one takes us seriously? Let's sit back and hope someone else here is god and can figure this out. Everyone has pretty much gone through thE process of research and different supplements only to do what. .. sit in the background and comment once in awhile. Why? Because they realize were not going to solve this on our own. Indigo-I respect you for starting this thread and getting the word out and others too. Maybe we're all too chemo brained to understand how it works. It's ignorant to think we can figure this out now, even though our brothers and sisters of the 80's couldn't. It's science now-the studies are so much more prevelant. Bullshit-it's ego! There's 1 person actively working on this thread and unfortunately I have little faith despite his valiant efforts. Like crank said-report your sides. Hell find an attorney. Do something besides google bullshit. I'm in a suffering group whom albeit strong in suffering, are very weak in voice. Wake up brothers and sisters!

 

I think with anything bad that happens in your life, you have to learn to accept reality foremost.

For a long time I was very regular on this forum, and what did that achieve?
It got me very obsessed about everything that was WRONG with my life.

How could I expect to feel good if I was constantly pinning my happiness on the success of my healing? - something that is ever elusive.

 

I think I've learned very little, and a lot, all at the same time.

We need to remember that this is just our battle.

Everyone, regardless of whether they took this drug or not, has their own problems to deal with.

Some minor, in comparison to this.

Some much, much worse.

 

As long as we compare our lives to others who appear successful and happy, we'll feel like failures.

We can only compare ourselves to us.

It's not always easy, of course. At times, I just want to scream my head off about the unfairness of it all.

But that doesn't change anything. It doesn't achieve a darn thing.

 

So, I just eat well now.
Actually, that's bullshit.

My diet has been pretty bad over the holidays.

I've had far too much cheese pizza.

I'll get back on it though.

 

But, it's not rocket science and so we shouldn't complicate things.

We all know what is healthy and what isn't.

Maybe some believe vegan, or paleo.

Whatever. Do what your intuition tells you, rather than some book or 'health expert'. 

We can all agree muffins, alcohol and cigarettes aren't going to help matters.

 

But it's just as important (or more so) to focus on healing from an emotional/spiritual stand point.

Happiness is all we really want and we can still find ways to attain that.

The more we can make peace with the present moment, the less stress and fatigue, and all the other shit there is to deal with.

There is no denying that Accutane was a trigger for these problems, but we cannot expect our minds or bodies to heal while we batter ourselves with stress and worry. And we'll never have the health we once did, before we lost our innocence and complete freedom.

 

In regards to the sexual dysfunction...

Cutting out porn and masturbation has improved my sex life A LOT.

In the past, I couldn't cum during sex to save my life... If at all, it was very rare. I'd have to wank in order to finish.

Sometimes I couldn't get an erection (some embarrassing attempts at sex... I cringe thinking about the opportunities I wasted and lost)
Sex would usually go on for an hour, and I didn't enjoy it because I could feel nothing at all. I was numb.

Now, it's rarely a problem. Most of the time, things feel amazing.

My libido can still be low, depending on how tired I am or what I've been doing that day (I.e... if I'm stressed, it's probably not going to happen).

If you're worried about your dick... why not leave it alone for a while?

 

My point is this... some things we can change, some things we can't (for now, at least).

I could of carried on watching porn and wanking on my own, but my sex life would be a disaster.

It took some time to realise a whole bunch of young guys have sexual dysfunction, and Accutane wasn't the cause (not fully, at least).

I can't have sex every day and get away with it, but 2-3 times a week is good.


Given the moderate-severe adrenal fatigue and current health situation, what more can I expect?

So, to summarise...

 

Focus on what you CAN do RIGHT NOW in this moment.

Or else, you'll be miserable and disappointed. And a victim with no friends, because nobody wants to hear you moan about the same things every day.

They want to see you trying to move forward.

And you may think you've tried so hard. But you're failing to realise that you're making the same mistakes over and over again.

Give this forum and other pages like it a break.

It won't kill you.

Read a real book, about mystery and fiction. Skip the self-help and health studies.

 

Life is short. 

And you'll never get another.

So, don't keep wasting time imagining how things could have been.

Because those times are gone now.

Let it go, for fuck sake.

 

Never stop trying to get better for yourself.

But realise your limitations and know when to relax and admit that you can't make everything happen all at once.

I've always strived to be something big and unordinary, but all that pressure can lead to burnout.

You've got to know when to chill out and watch TV like everyone else.

 

Hope this helps those that need a wake up call.

Think of all the money you've wasted on supplements and books.

All the time you've wasted learning things that just left you confused.

 

You could have traveled the World.

But instead, all you have to talk about is this shitty drug and how the medical industry is corrupt. Blah Blah Blah, Roche are cunts. Yes they are. Let it go.

How boring have we all become?

But it doesn't have to be that way anymore.

 

Move on and make your life better than this.




#3466224 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 01 January 2015 - 04:00 PM

Happy New Year guys.

Hope you're not feeling too bad.

I'm hopeful that this year I can make massive progress with a recovery.

I still believe that copper overload (have talked about this on my channel on YouTube) is behind the majority of side effects.


Made a video again on Accutane to warn others,

 

I took all my old ones down (well, I made them private) because I came across as too opinionated and a bit dick-ish.

Hopefully I can get this one seen by people, so they can avoid a similar fate to ours.

I will of course let you know once I'm better (if that does turn out to be the case)

 

I stand by stress and our attitude being important, too.




#3459141 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 08 November 2014 - 12:56 PM

https://soundcloud.c...-lay/im-sinking

 

Shameless plug.




#3458620 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 04 November 2014 - 02:51 AM

Following on from my video, I just want to re-iterate a few things.

I was wrong about Matt Stone's work when I spoke of it previously.

It's not right for people with our level of health, though it is important to eat enough calories which can be hard on some variety of a vegetarian diet.

 

Matt does make two good points about body temperature being a good indicator of metabolism, and not drowning ourselves with un-necessary amounts of water though. Regardless of what caused what, things have gotten worse... at least, for myself. Gradually, things have got worse. Whether it's high copper, adrenal fatigue, hypothyroidism, gut issues or something entirely different that was the trigger point, I believe the answer is the same.

 

Those of us (all of us?) who have mental health issues because of this - I speak mainly of Anxiety - can relieve some of our stress by just accepting that we have anxiety right now and there's nothing we can do about it. I've done a lot of mental practices to try and counteract it and nothing works long-term. Short-term, meditation and deep-breathing as well as walks in nature are good, but the best thing to do would be to accept it's the side-effect of our current health situation, rather than feeling sorry for ourselves and comparing ourselves to the 'lucky ones'.

 

Also, I think we MUST choose faith over fear.

For me, it's almost 9 years since this all began.

I couldn't easily write off my life as a disaster and kill myself if I allowed myself to believe this was it, and that I'd never get a second chance.

I don't believe that's true, and more importantly - we can't allow ourselves to believe that's true.

There are people who have got better, albeit hard to find among the horror stories of broken lives.

We need to focus on setting our intention for a better life.

 

Regarding diet, I say do what works for you.

I understand exactly what it's like to care for animals and to see the horror they go through to provide a meal.

Nothing can justify the way animals are treated, and it's something I want to be able to change.

However, for me personally, Vegan/vegetarian was one of the worst moves for my health.

If I'd of kept it up, things would have got worse.


Some people can seemingly do very well on a vegetarian diet.

Others, not so much. Maybe it's down to blood type, or genetic build. I don't know.

 

Regardless of all the controversy in opinion over whether we should (or need to) eat meat, the adrenals and thyroid need meat when they're in a bad way.

I'm not going to try and say Copper is 100% the problem at this stage (I'll confirm that once I'm better) but it's very hard to get enough zinc, iron and other things on a vegetarian diet. You'd have to eat A LOT of pumpkin seeds (for zinc).  

 

Life is pretty cruel I guess.

How we have to kill to survive.

If you've ever watched a nature documentary, you'll see that all of the animals have a degree of violence.

Male elephants fight for dominance.

A baboon will try to kill a baby Cheetah.

 

I still only eat chicken, turkey and fish because I can't just switch off the things I've seen.

But, if I didn't eat any meat at all, I don't think I'd be in a good place at all.

I expect things would go from shit to shitter, to shittest.

Vegetarian diets will lead to a zinc deficiency. B12 too, probably.

Nuts, etc are high in copper.

Zinc also gets used up during stress and for processing of sugar in the body.

My girlfriend is vegetarian and her health isn't the best really (though a sure sight better than mine - she never took any meds).

 

Vegetables are the holy grail of foods, but I don't think it's smart to JUST eat Fruit and veggies.

Though some may believe fasting is a good thing, it'd be hard to get more than 1500 calories per day unless you're doing the whole blending of banana's thing.

I avoid dairy for the most part. Just have a bit of chocolate from time to time.

I went gluten and dairy free for a few weeks and only noticed my wallet being waded through faster.

 

My diet is mainly meat, veg, salad, some fruit (not much - Yeast overgrowth - maybe two pieces a day) and some ready salted crisps.

I think that's the best I can do for now. I usually have a sandwich at lunch time.

Lamb would likely be a lot healthier than any other meats as they're allowed to grow eating a natural diet and aren't pumped with hormones or whatever.

I just feel uncomfortable eating an animal that's slaughtered after 6 months.

Plus, there are many sheep around where I live in the country... They're beautiful as little-uns.

Creepy eyes though.

 

Oh look, I went off on a tangent.

I've not watched porn for 61 days. Definitely has made a big difference to my sex life (though occasionally I still can't feel much and struggle to ejaculate. My sex drive is also a bit lacking, but that's clearly related to my adrenals and general health - as well as, perhaps, low zinc.).

I don't even think about watching porn anymore.

I can get a bit more done, and avoid spunking away the energy I do have.

 

The book 'Depression Free, Naturally' by Joan Mathews Larson is definitely worth reading.

It'd be easy to say we're just depressed and anxious because of our physical health problems.

But I believe our anxiety and depression is linked in with everything.

This book is written by someone's who's been running a practice for 20 years (at the point the book was published).

She was ahead of her time and knew in the 90's that low fat diets were dumb.

Her Son killed himself, so she gained a personal obsession with mental health causes.

The book has chapters individually on anxiety, depression, OCD, etc.

Each will feature a set of case studies and lists all the causes she's learned.

 

For anxiety, copper overload and adrenal fatigue (part of the same package) were a major one.

As well as diets that raise blood sugar levels too high.




#3458524 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 03 November 2014 - 10:00 AM




#3441951 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 17 July 2014 - 02:54 PM

Hey guys.

Really think taking finasteride could be disastrous, but if you want to risk it because of the success story above, go for it.

 

 

Above is a link to a video I've made regarding the potential problems with porn.

In the past, towards the end of last year, I tried giving up porn and masturbation to see if anything improved.

During that time, I had some amazing sex... I actually laughed afterwards because my penis worked and it felt good.

It wasn't like that every day, and I believe I got to around 20-25 days without viewing porn.

In the end, I convinced myself it couldn't really do any harm and I'd never be well because 'Accutane has done this to me'.


Though it's possible Accutane has had an affect on our brains (rather than penis' in my opinion), my sexual dyfunction first became noticeable a few years after stopping the drug... So, how could Accutane be the cause?

Regardless, porn can do no good for the reasons I mention in my video, and others.

 

There's a large amount of people that say they went from totally tired, emotionally numb, socially anxious, depressed and unmotivated to 'normal and happy' when giving up fapping it to porn. I thought it was bullshit at first, but it's not at all. I also thought I didn't have a problem with porn because I wasn't wanking off every night or anything.

However, if you watch porn reguarly (once a week or more), you likely have a problem.

For me, the main problems were/are: delayed ejaculation and reduced sensitivity.

I want to inspire you to give this a try because I really did notice a difference at times when I wasn't watching porn.

It can take a few months or more for your mind to adapt to normal again.

 

Fuck that mind-ruining porn.

It's another thing that saps your energy and overloads your brain with dopamine, the same way a drug would (This has been proven, scientifically).

Another video worth checking out if anything I've said to you is of interest:




#3440376 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 09 July 2014 - 12:18 PM

I love you all except for that cock above.




#3439348 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 04 July 2014 - 06:52 AM

 

 

After eating really 'healthy', taking a hundred different supplements/herbs and everything else, I ended up.... WORSE.

 

Why? 

For two reasons, I believe.

 

You're best chance of recovery is rest.

A lot of my symptoms (and that means nearly all of them) could be caused by mere anxiety and stress build up.

Open your minds for a moment - I bet you spend A LOT of time, if you've not in the past, trying to find answers on Google and in forums like this one.

Always feeling like you need to keep looking, because surely the answer is out there somewhere.

Maybe it's a liver cleanse, maybe it's cannabis oil... maybe it's all a bunch of old bollocks.

 

Without going on and on, I want to hit home with this message: Stop living an abnormal life in the shadows, trying all these ideas that are based on theory.

You don't need to cleanse Accutane out of you. You don't need to have an enema. 

You need to let it all go. Just forget about trying to cure yourself.

 

A lot of ignorance here. Sad that you think you have enough knowledge and experience to tell people they should not change their diet and do nothing except "manage stress", you should learn some physiology before posting full of crap posts (sorry but that make me mad). Keep your deceptions for yourself.

Yo...

 

Might I point out that I started this forum topic and have been suffering from the side effects for 8 years?

Might I also point out that over those 8 years I have tried A LOT of things. All of which have not helped.

I'm not trying to deceive, as you suggest.

My intentions were good.

To me, the blindfold has been lifted and I can see a lot of you poor sods are wasting even more months of your life over what is most likely anxiety. Anxiety after all the self-diagnosing and horror stories.

Tiredness ... Do you expect to be energetic when you batter your mind with worry, likely miss out on getting enough sleep and have an eating disorder?

 

Some may consider it ridiculous of me to suggest you have an eating disorder... I would have too, until recently.

Worrying about everything being organic and natural is bordering on a mental illness.

Maybe it's made it's way past the border.

 

I'm not suggesting diet isn't important... 

What I'm saying is, I was eating organic fruits and vegetables... spending over £100 on food a week myself (and I still live at home).

Surely if the solution was diet, I'd of at least improved?

But that didn't happen.

Because although, obviously, eating natural unprocessed foods is a good thing, there lies a problem with it... especially if you have metabolic issues...

I.e. the symptoms of Hypothyroidism and Adrenal Fatigue.

It only recently occured to me that I'd been undereating for a while.

I'd estimate I was having around 1500 calories a day. That's not nearly enough.

 

Fasting, diets and all those things are not good for the body.

Fasting is a terrible idea. When your body is screaming 'eat.... eat' and you ignore it because you're on a juice fast or something equally stupid, well... you're just going to end up worse.

 

I'm not ignorant to the topic of health. Not by a long-shot.

But if you're cold a lot of the time, have a low sex drive, are prone to anxiety/depression... you're nervous system is in sympathetic mode.

That's not a good thing. You're body is stressed out.

Food is a way of de-stressing. A way of comfort.

The World is fucking god-awful at times... We're supposed to enjoy food and listen to our bodies wants and needs.

If you enjoy salty foods, you likely need more of them.

Drinking too much fluids and eating too many fruits/veg (mainly water) will flush and dilute your body... worsening things.

It's well known that when you have adrenal fatigue, you need more salt because sodium isn't easily retained.

I could go on...

 

Going back to some examples of being cured... Joseph came up. Rice and shrimp.

That's not fucking cured. That's absolute retarded madness. Wake up.

Avoiding all but two foods is not normal, or healthy. I don't care who says differently.

 

Dude who said avoiding Milk helped clear your acne.. 

That's great, but I doubt it has anything to do with retinol content.

Much more likely, you just are better off without milk, as are many people.

You're not the first to say their acne cleared from cutting the dairy.

 

And I want to re-iterate that stress and mental well-being is far more important that anything else.

If you've been to the doctors and the blood tests don't point out anything worrying... you need to work on your problem with health anxiety.

I was trying to help, not ridicule you guys.

But I don't come on here anymore, and when I (every few months or so) check in to see what you're talking about, I think 'Fucking hell. They're still at it.'

Smoke your cannabis if it makes you feel good.

Put cannabis oil on your wrist if it helps.

 

I'm just saying - CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

Life is too short to waste chasing answers that aren't there.

You can get better for sure, and I'm sure we all have different variations of health issues to heal, but brain fog, depression, low sex-drive... They're explainable as anxiety and exhaustion of body and mind.

And for sure as fucking Jesus, you can exhaust your body and mind with stress and false-beliefs.

Stop throwing away your hard earned cash on another supplement, that may or may not (likely not) help you.

 

I look forward to telling you that I'm all better in a few months, but I've only just started this new journey.
A journey of freedom.

It doesn't mean eating junk shit all the time.

But it means I'm no longer afraid of a single cookie causing diabetes.

It means, if I want fried chips ... I'll have them and enjoy them.

 

Once again... two most important things: EAT ENOUGH (I suspect some of you are fucking up your metabolic rate, especially if you've noticed cold hands and feed) and DEAL WITH ANXIETY. The books I recommended will help you greatly.

 

Or, you can ignore my advice, get angry and moan at me.
It really makes no difference to me.

 

Peace.

Accutane affects other people differently than it does others. Basically what you're suggesting is to get over it and enjoy life. I get what you are saying and agree with you, but keep in mind that other people have had far worse experiences on accutane to the point of being contantly in pain.

 

Brain fog and low sex drive and depression aren't necessarily all caused by the exhaustion of the mind and body. Usually it is and the drugs amplify these issues, but not always. At least that is what I have found with me. Cutting out the unnecessary annoyances in life wherever I could has helped as has finding hobbies and interests that I enjoy doing.

 

I firmly believe diet greatly impacts the symptoms that one may have, so yeah what you eat is important. For instance, I've become FAR more sensitive to refined sugar, dairy, wheat and anything with a lot of carbs basically. When I cut those out I felt FAR better than I have ever been since shortly after ending my accutanne treatment 12 years ago. I still have chronic dry skin and dry eyes. No amount of water helps so perhaps I simply can't store water very well (let's just say I go to the bathroom after drinking a small amoutn of water).

 

Now I can live with my symptoms...I imagine things will get worse for me later on though since things have slowly been getting worse over the last 4-5 years. I'm thankful that I don't have ulcerative colitis and that I only have IBS...THAT is something you can't really enjoy life with if you have it (unless you enjoy blowing money on surgeries and spending tons of time out of work).

 

All of this stuff can be explained away by saying that "it hasn't been proven" or that "not everyone that took Accutane has it", but you gotta really wonder with all the reports that people have about it if it is just a coincidence or not.

 

At any rate, some people aren't able to enjoy life because of constant pain, multiple trips to the hospital, and just the time and money being spent trying to get back to having a "normal" life. If a person loses too many things at once, then it is nearly impossible to truly enjoy life. Luckily for me, it has been a slow progression and I personally find joy in volunteer work and writing poetry. That is all I need and want and although my joints do bother me at times, I can still write so I am happy.

 

Just try to be careful what you say because some people could very well take offense to what you are suggesting, especially if they have some of the more "severe" side effects of Accutane. Generalization is a VERY bad thing which will only tick others off which from what I am reading in your post is exactly what you are doing. Again I get what you are saying and I agree with pretty much all of it...just keep in mind though that any medication has a chance of messing you up pretty badly and that sleep and rest won't always cure or even help those that are experiencing side effects from medication in general.

Thanks for the reply.

I agree a lot with what you've said.

Although I definitely suffered very badly with the effects of this drug, everyone is different and some many have more issues that me.

 

I suppose my message was aimed at those who can relate to it.

It's an odd scenario because it's very easy to start blaming every problem in your life on 'that sodding drug I took ____ months/years ago'.

For me personally, the eye floaters and sexual dysfunction began a few years after coming off the drug.

If Accutane caused those problems, I'd like to know how...

 

My main point isn't in ignoring problems and just accepting them, because I think that would be very hard to do for anyone... for the rest of their lives.

However, I realised that back when I was at college (age 17-18) I didn't struggle to get out of bed and think clearly like I do now.

Things like dry eyes ... Annoying as hell, but I tried so many things for that alone and realised I was fighting a losing battle.

I think Life is too short to waste away searching over and over for an answer to something like that.

Now... I don't use any eye drops or anything. My eyes are dry upon wakening and can feel bad at times, but overall... I'm better than when I used drops etc.

 

I believe the reason I'm so tired now is pure anxiety and stress. A lot, un-intendedly, self-inflicted.

Bad things happen to everyone. Y'all have likely realised nobody really has it easy.

I mean, look at us. We had acne and then we end up with all these problems... 

A bit of perspective can be healthy though.

I watched embarrassing bodies on TV last night (a show in the UK). I'll tell ya... that show will make you feel lucky.

 

The only goal in all of this, though, is to be happy and content. At peace...

I understand many people on this forum will state that's impossible. I was one of them.

If you look back at some of my posts, I'm sure you can see what kind of state I was in.

But I look back at the years of my life with some regret.

I've lost friends... partly because I was so lost in my own world with it's problems. Partly because those friends didn't make an effort...

But I think 'Wow... All the things I could have done... I've not really done much'.

Anxiety and low mood have held me back for so long.

 

Without going on and repeating myself my only points are these:

 

- You have to know when it's time to stop waiting around for a pill/supplement/diet to cure you. Don't put your life on hold and say you'll do things when 'you're better'.

- Stress can cause pretty much any problem. You've taken the drug now and there's nothing you can do to change that. Be reasonable. Sure... it's a fucking terrible drug (for some) and I'd never touch it again.... but is it really the cause of every problem in your life now?

- Anxiety could have been triggered by this drug. I've read of people who's anxiety came on after using drugs (like Marijuana). The answer is the same. You have to heal it mentally and over time. The key is to accept that you're anxious and will be for a while, because it's been going on a long time. Instead of fighting, you face the things that make you anxious and practice acceptance. For me, walking up the road past strangers on my own, or having my space invaded can put me on edge. Instead of adding more tension, worry and stress (which will exhaust you and cause physical symptoms), you tell yourself 'It's okay. I don't need to figure out why I'm like this. I've been so stressed and worried for such a long time. My body is in a heightened state and worrying makes me worse.' If you accept as best you can, how you are feeling, you will get better. Some degree of anxiety is normal anyway.

 

(Once again, I don't know how many of you this anxiety stuff will relate to, but I'd guess the majority, if not all).

 

- Depersonalization is where you feel un-real. Like you're in a bubble. Like you're friends and family could be shot in front of you and you'd feel nothing. It's just another symptom of anxiety. This used to scare me more than anything. The complete numbness.

 

- Get the fuck out of your comfort zone. I'm only trying to help you... because lately I've realised some things. Staying in your room, rarely leaving it... going on your laptop all night... It's just got bad news written all over it. When you're depressed and anxious, being alone will lead you to dwell on the past... fear the future and try to fix everything at once (which can't possibly happen). Get outside, so that four walls aren't surrounding you. It'll feel weird at first, but you need to change if you want your situation to improve. I used to walk round the same field every day. Rarely was anybody else ever on it. Now, I'm walking up the streets so I have to walk past people. I sit on a bench for a while... and .... nothing bad happens. You are merely afraid of feelings. Over time, you can realise you need not fear feelings.... and, ironically, those feelings will smooth out.

 

- Don't expect to get better over night. I sometimes prayed before bed (I don't believe in God, I was just desperate) that I'd wake up better. That's an impossible dream and will only lead to you waking up disappointed. Instead, go to bed (at a reasonable time) hoping for the courage to handle things as they are. You can psyche yourself up at any time to have courage. It's better to be angry than afraid. Get pissed off that you're life has flashed before you... Get pissed off that you've become a shadow of your former self. Fuck those people who let you down, gave up on you or walked away. Show them you're better than they thought.

 

Once again, I want to reiterate... The reason I won't be going on google is because I realise nearly all of my symptoms are down to stress and anxiety only. Some of you may have bowel problems, I dunno... Find what works best I guess, and stick to it.

 

I used to cut out foods (like gluten) because I thought 'Maybe I have a gluten intolerance'... all because I'd read how bad gluten is. Yet, I had no real reason to believe I had an issue with gluten and millions eat it every day and are healthier than me... Sure, they didn't take a drug... But I was changing my diet and becoming bored at times with what I was 'allowed' to eat. Yet, over months... nothing I did was making a difference. Lifestyle and stress are very important. You can eat as healthy as you want but if you're putting yourself in a constant state of panic about your health, or anything else, you're body won't function right. Constipation and all sorts can be caused just from the thoughts you have.

 

If you think I'm full of shit, feel free to write this off as a bunch of rubbish.

For those that may read and think 'Yeah... this guy actually speaks some sense' ... I'm glad to of helped.

Have a good day.

 

Stefan




#3438878 Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

Posted by IndigoRush on 01 July 2014 - 03:12 PM

After eating really 'healthy', taking a hundred different supplements/herbs and everything else, I ended up.... WORSE.

 

Why? 

For two reasons, I believe.

 

You're best chance of recovery is rest.

A lot of my symptoms (and that means nearly all of them) could be caused by mere anxiety and stress build up.

Open your minds for a moment - I bet you spend A LOT of time, if you've not in the past, trying to find answers on Google and in forums like this one.

Always feeling like you need to keep looking, because surely the answer is out there somewhere.

Maybe it's a liver cleanse, maybe it's cannabis oil... maybe it's all a bunch of old bollocks.

 

Without going on and on, I want to hit home with this message: Stop living an abnormal life in the shadows, trying all these ideas that are based on theory.

You don't need to cleanse Accutane out of you. You don't need to have an enema. 

You need to let it all go. Just forget about trying to cure yourself.

 

A lot of ignorance here. Sad that you think you have enough knowledge and experience to tell people they should not change their diet and do nothing except "manage stress", you should learn some physiology before posting full of crap posts (sorry but that make me mad). Keep your deceptions for yourself.

Yo...

 

Might I point out that I started this forum topic and have been suffering from the side effects for 8 years?

Might I also point out that over those 8 years I have tried A LOT of things. All of which have not helped.

I'm not trying to deceive, as you suggest.

My intentions were good.

To me, the blindfold has been lifted and I can see a lot of you poor sods are wasting even more months of your life over what is most likely anxiety. Anxiety after all the self-diagnosing and horror stories.

Tiredness ... Do you expect to be energetic when you batter your mind with worry, likely miss out on getting enough sleep and have an eating disorder?

 

Some may consider it ridiculous of me to suggest you have an eating disorder... I would have too, until recently.

Worrying about everything being organic and natural is bordering on a mental illness.

Maybe it's made it's way past the border.

 

I'm not suggesting diet isn't important... 

What I'm saying is, I was eating organic fruits and vegetables... spending over £100 on food a week myself (and I still live at home).

Surely if the solution was diet, I'd of at least improved?

But that didn't happen.

Because although, obviously, eating natural unprocessed foods is a good thing, there lies a problem with it... especially if you have metabolic issues...

I.e. the symptoms of Hypothyroidism and Adrenal Fatigue.

It only recently occured to me that I'd been undereating for a while.

I'd estimate I was having around 1500 calories a day. That's not nearly enough.

 

Fasting, diets and all those things are not good for the body.

Fasting is a terrible idea. When your body is screaming 'eat.... eat' and you ignore it because you're on a juice fast or something equally stupid, well... you're just going to end up worse.

 

I'm not ignorant to the topic of health. Not by a long-shot.

But if you're cold a lot of the time, have a low sex drive, are prone to anxiety/depression... you're nervous system is in sympathetic mode.

That's not a good thing. You're body is stressed out.

Food is a way of de-stressing. A way of comfort.

The World is fucking god-awful at times... We're supposed to enjoy food and listen to our bodies wants and needs.

If you enjoy salty foods, you likely need more of them.

Drinking too much fluids and eating too many fruits/veg (mainly water) will flush and dilute your body... worsening things.

It's well known that when you have adrenal fatigue, you need more salt because sodium isn't easily retained.

I could go on...

 

Going back to some examples of being cured... Joseph came up. Rice and shrimp.

That's not fucking cured. That's absolute retarded madness. Wake up.

Avoiding all but two foods is not normal, or healthy. I don't care who says differently.

 

Dude who said avoiding Milk helped clear your acne.. 

That's great, but I doubt it has anything to do with retinol content.

Much more likely, you just are better off without milk, as are many people.

You're not the first to say their acne cleared from cutting the dairy.

 

And I want to re-iterate that stress and mental well-being is far more important that anything else.

If you've been to the doctors and the blood tests don't point out anything worrying... you need to work on your problem with health anxiety.

I was trying to help, not ridicule you guys.

But I don't come on here anymore, and when I (every few months or so) check in to see what you're talking about, I think 'Fucking hell. They're still at it.'

Smoke your cannabis if it makes you feel good.

Put cannabis oil on your wrist if it helps.

 

I'm just saying - CHILL THE FUCK OUT.

Life is too short to waste chasing answers that aren't there.

You can get better for sure, and I'm sure we all have different variations of health issues to heal, but brain fog, depression, low sex-drive... They're explainable as anxiety and exhaustion of body and mind.

And for sure as fucking Jesus, you can exhaust your body and mind with stress and false-beliefs.

Stop throwing away your hard earned cash on another supplement, that may or may not (likely not) help you.

 

I look forward to telling you that I'm all better in a few months, but I've only just started this new journey.
A journey of freedom.

It doesn't mean eating junk shit all the time.

But it means I'm no longer afraid of a single cookie causing diabetes.

It means, if I want fried chips ... I'll have them and enjoy them.

 

Once again... two most important things: EAT ENOUGH (I suspect some of you are fucking up your metabolic rate, especially if you've noticed cold hands and feed) and DEAL WITH ANXIETY. The books I recommended will help you greatly.

 

Or, you can ignore my advice, get angry and moan at me.
It really makes no difference to me.

 

Peace.