Riddled

Hey man, just keep experimenting whilst not becoming too obsessed, try to keep it balanced, easier said than done i know. Hopefully eventually you will find the answer. Personally i have allowed acne to control my life when it should have been the other way around. 

 

One thing to consider is something like fructose malabsorption or some other kind of malabsorption and SIBO and all that BS. - The whole good/bad/too much/wrong place gut bacteria thing. I also have bad gas, i'm a walking human gas machine and i know that for me it is caused by fibre, basically all the "Healthy" foods but i have tried various diets that reduce my gas and make my digestion better and it never correlates with better skin - doesn't mean it wont with you. I think probiotics like Sauternes etc can actually bad for people who have "too much" gut bacteria or gut bacteria were it shouldn't be etc. 

 

If you can try to isolate variables as much as is possible and stick to different things as long and as best as you can, i and i'm sure many others on here, switch from one thing to other and never really get anywhere apart from going round in circles.

Interesting article on the causes of celiac disease:

 

http://www.nytimes.c...=general&src=me

 

 

I believe there might be possible implications to acne through the discussed Gut health - probiotics - autoimmune connection?

 

 

Acne is essentially an autoimmune disorder isn't? 

 

Would be interesting to know the rates of acne amongst the Finnish and Russian populations they looked at.

 

 

Does anybody know of any research done on acne and intestinal bacteria? 

My two cents for what it's worth:

I think weight lifting breaks me out too. Pretty sure there is some kind of correlation. When i used to stay out all night, taking God knows what, my skin was clear as baby, when i started doing more weights, cleaning up lifestyle etc, skin started t break out and has continued.

And yes i'm fully aware that correlation doesn't necessarily imply causation etc.


If you are into weights and exercise in general i would be very careful with a lot of Yoga positions, try to avoid any that flex the spine, focus on spine flexibility etc- very bad idea.

Gluten is very bad, it may kill you!

You are in a similar situation to me. I had little if any acne as a teenager and growing up. When i was younger and i used to drink, smoke, do drugs, go out partying, clubing, little sleep etc my skin was fine. Then as i got into my twenties and i cleaned my lifestyle up my skin started to get worse and it seems i developed "Adult Acne".

I think lifting weights is also part of my problem, you already run, but when i do regular cardio my skin improves. i think cardio regulates/lowers testosterone/hormones but if you are doing it already that's that out of the window. Maybe experiment with your workouts and maybe try making them last longer and/or try ending with some cardio to maybe "burn"/regulate the hormones.

Most strength trainers like workouts to be shorter to "spike" hormones etc and they don't like cardio. As you no doubt already know. I think fat is used to make hormones and t, i can't remember exactly how but monosaturated and saturated are supposed to be involved. This might be why i and some others too get results from keeping saturated fat intake low. Maybe you have to sacrifice your T levels and hence strength slightly for your skin. It's a bitch i know but when i can be arsed and i get ripped it's can often be ruined by fucking spots. I guess it depends on why you train and what is more important.

You could try keeping your saturated fat intake low if you haven't already although i have just noticed you mentioned lean meats, maybe you are eating them from another source..

Hormones are only part of the puzzle though so rather than trying to focus on that piece could try and work out and deal with the other piece/pieces. This is easy done than said though and there is so many things it could be just have to try and experiment with what you can. Ie look into any food intolerances, experiment with diet etc. This is the million dollar question though and as i know can drive you mental pissing around with everything.

Without ll that messing around could try Taurine i guess as i see it mentioned quite a lot. Other things to try, if you haven't already, that often get brought up on these boards, are things like milk thistle, fibre, probiotics.

I have tried just about everything and nothing makes any difference for me except keeping saturated fat low, keeping fructose low and doing as much cardio as possible. We're all different though and plenty of people have had success with lots of different things. i am trying Taurine myself now.


If you are just doing weights for aesthetics then eventually, if all else fails, maybe you will have to try and change your training to go for a more ripped and lean look rather than a built look.

I don't know what is worse being a skinny gimp with nice clear skin or being stacked with acne.

Just wondering how people found ketogenic diets are/were for their skin?
More specifically anyone who found that they made their skin worse?

I only ask because i tried a ketogenic diet recently for just over 5 weeks and for most of it my skin seemed to get worse although it did seem to get better at the end, but even then not the results i had expected, from what i had read. Maybe i was just about to go completely clear and i was just going through the ol' "detoxing stage".


I had to stop the diet due to kidney pain that wasn't going away and disturbing calculus/tartar type deposits on my teeth. I never intended doing it long term anyway, i was just interested to see the affects on myself.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced these calculus / tartar deposits?


I did seem to notice some kind of connection with large boil type nasty spots appearing after longs periods without food, say half a day or more, which was basically fasting and probably exaggerated considering i was already in permanent ketosis. This seems to go against the more common observation of improvements in acne during fasting.

I should note i was eating large amounts of spinach, every day in fact, and that this could have also been the significant contributor to the calculus and/or kidney pain, through the deposit of oxalate crystals. Anyones knowledge on this would be appreciated. Cheers.