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well, i have a slightly different situation. i am half chinese and half caucasion. any other "halfies" out there who have tried fraxel?

the more research i do the better it sounds. my scarring is fairly shallow...derms classify them as "superficial". is there anyone out there with shallow scarring who is happy with their fraxel results?

thanks.

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i too would like to know, shallow scars sufferer here


I am scar free, today I feel beautiful and gorgeous for I have perfect skin once more, now and until forever. All of my scars have healed to the fullest extent.


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Whoa, Fraxel is safe on Asian skin?! I have some redness and stitch marks left over from my excision and would love to get them smoothed out with Fraxel.

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well, i have a slightly different situation. i am half chinese and half caucasion. any other "halfies" out there who have tried fraxel?

the more research i do the better it sounds. my scarring is fairly shallow...derms classify them as "superficial". is there anyone out there with shallow scarring who is happy with their fraxel results?

thanks.

I'd like to know too. I'm halfie as well. My derm told me that there is a 30% chance of Asian skin getting serious hyperpigmentation with any invasive laser. I wonder if that makes it a 15% for halfies? I haven't been able to get excisions either, because of the risk of keloid formation. :dance:

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Hey everyone,

As i read through these forums i was looking to see if anyone else had the same symptoms from fraxel as I did but i didnt find much. so if any of you are experiencing what i am going through PLEASE let me know.

ok, so i am in my early 20's and i am of Indian decent. i have several icepick scars and some mild scars on my cheeks. to me they look pretty severe because its my face but most people say its mild to moderate.

Anyway,i had my 4th and final fraxel treatment 3 days ago. it is still pretty swolen and i have major bronzing. my bronzing looks nothing like the pictures on the fraxel website. its more like scabs, thick linear scabs down my cheek and chin. I CANNNOT cover it up with makeup because it looks even worse and i cant go anywhere for about a week cuz thats how long it takes for the bronzing to do away. even after that my skin looks pretty raw and it is really noticeable because my forehead is a warm bronze color and my cheeks look like raw meat. it actually takes about a month for my skin to look normal again.

scar results:

i honestly did not see any change until the 3rd treatment. the changes very subtle too, its almost like my scars icepick scars have widened instead filled in . they are still there and pretty noticeable but my skin is much smoother and my makeup glides on like butter so thats a major plus.

the procedure:

well, a major bummer is the pain from the fraxel. I take 10mg percocet, 1mg of xanax, and lidocaine ointment an hour before the procedure. The drugs are GREAT, but not enough cuz i still remember the memory of the sharp pain from the procedure. the whole thing is unbearable. i tear up and i have to hold my breath most of the time and i need many breaks. By the end im so out of it from the pain and the drugs that i blabber on about things that dont make any sense. its not fun at all.

The side effects:

well due to my yellow undertones and brown skin, i have hypOpigmentation on my cheeks. it started off as a small, round clearly demarcated patch on my cheek after my third treatment. i actually thought it was a ring worm or something cuz it would crust up and plus i had a pediatrics rotation. Thankfully, it was not ringworms it was contact dermatitis which i still have. im on a low strength corticosteroid for it.

wow, i wrote alot. i didnt think i had so much to say. ill just bold the main points so you guys dont have to read my side comments.

aite fellas,

take care... n let me know if any of you have the same experience.

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chi123

I am Indian and had one fraxel treatment. From what I've read here and on the internet fraxel wont do anything for ice-picks so if that's what you have, I'm not sure why you're doctor would even reccomend fraxel.

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I want to try this but my derm told me there's no point since i'm oriental(as she puts it) I will just get more scarring and hyperpigmentation. That sucks ><;; ah well I guess I'll just have to hope some asian person makes something for asian skin scarring. I'm chinese btw.

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I am middle aged asian female. I have done 4 fraxel (last 2 treatment was with 1500) and have shallow acne scars. My skin DID NOT improve. Not much at all. I've tried many different treatments before like IPL, chemical peel, Obaji, microdermabrasion, and etc... This Fraxel was no different. I've had bad hyperpigmentation with IPL. I thought Fraxel would improve somewhat, maybe 20%. Not even close to 10% improvement for 3 Grand. I am kicking my foot and telling everyone to not do the fraxel. Don't waste your money!

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I am middle aged asian female. I have done 4 fraxel (last 2 treatment was with 1500) and have shallow acne scars. My skin DID NOT improve. Not much at all. I've tried many different treatments before like IPL, chemical peel, Obaji, microdermabrasion, and etc... This Fraxel was no different. I've had bad hyperpigmentation with IPL. I thought Fraxel would improve somewhat, maybe 20%. Not even close to 10% improvement for 3 Grand. I am kicking my foot and telling everyone to not do the fraxel. Don't waste your money!

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I am middle aged asian female. I have done 4 fraxel (last 2 treatment was with 1500) and have shallow acne scars. My skin DID NOT improve. Not much at all. I've tried many different treatments before like IPL, chemical peel, Obaji, microdermabrasion, and etc... This Fraxel was no different. I've had bad hyperpigmentation with IPL. I thought Fraxel would improve somewhat, maybe 20%. Not even close to 10% improvement for 3 Grand. I am kicking my foot and telling everyone to not do the fraxel. Don't waste your money!

Wow, guess if someone says, "I'll show you the best treament that worked perfectly on someone." then I must always turn around and say, "I'll show you a case where it didn't work on someone at all!"

God, Ive been waiting for someone like you to surface and unfortunately I am now on treatment 3. Shit shit shit

Beauty21, what were your settings for the fraxel sr 1500?


Age 27, Male, Type III/IV skin (Asian)

Scarring

Most scars <1 year old

Left cheek: several small ice picks/enlarged pores, 3 superficial rolling scars on cheek, several shallow boxcars below temples

Right cheek: no signficant scarring, only a few superficial scarred pores

1st Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

Mar 2, 2007

Left cheek:

MJ 40

Treatment Level 6

8 passes

Right cheek:

MJ 20

Treatment Level 6

8 passes

2nd Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

May 4, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 35

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

3rd Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

June 1, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

4th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

June 29, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 35

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

5th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

August 10, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes

6th Treatment

Fraxel 2 Cheeks only

August 31, 2007

Both cheeks:

MJ 30

Treatment Level 8

6 passes


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hey guys i've been reading this thread and i'm going through five fraxel treatments as well.

i am asian and i noticed that even after the skin has peeled and stuff, there is this 'circles around my eye' where the fraxel didnt go through, even after like four weeks, i look like ive been sunburnt in the sun with sunglasses on.

pls tell me that that is normal and it will go away with time as the skin naturally sheds?

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I'm Asian and in my mid 20's. I have moderate acne scars that have been with me since high school, so I've done some research around the internet and ask my friends to help me find the way to reduce the acne scars, so I ended up decided reading about Fraxel. It takes me months to deciding if this is the best for me, so I go to the consultation and it sounds good.

I then recently had my first Fraxel treatment for my acne scars on my face and it has been 3 days now, my face look like I was out of the sun too much and the skin all over my face start to peeling off (but most of the bronze/dry skins still attach to my face). Which then had left me with one new scar on the side of my lip. But my skin seems to look tighter and smoother (in the area where my skin have peeled off).

This is one of the experience I will never forget and maybe in the future will do it again because even though my skin feel tighter and smoother, there still dead bronze skin attached on my face that I hope will fall off tomorrow or so.

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Fraxel usually provide 40 percent result on acne scars at most, and it take quite a number of treatments to get some results.


A quick temper will make a fool of you soon enough


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I have asian skin too. I had my first fraxel done at a setting of 7 right before Valentine. My doctor said he would not go any higer setting for my skin cuz it may cause hyperpigmentation. I also use Super CP Serum gel on my acne scars. I do see results with the copper peptide and fraxel.

I will post after my second treatments in 3 weeks. Below is the site where you can purchase Super Serum. You can read all the blogs too.

reverseskinaging.com

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I'm korean and have had 4 fraxel restore treatments. My RN only goes up to level 7 on me too but we go deeper every time... last one was at 55mj, level 7 at 8 passes. Overall, I am satisfied with the results. i had punch excisions done and they looked worse than before so it definately helped shrink the marks left from them. I have about 2-3 that are still noticable to me, boxcar ones that are much improved. My plan is to get 2 more but only spot treatment on my cheeks at $300. I do not feel I have hypopigmentation.. lucky me. but I do wear tinted moisturizer so I don't really notice. What's the most people have gotten? I mean I wouldn't mind doing 8 if I keep getting better results every time as I have so far!

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I'm korean and have had 4 fraxel restore treatments. My RN only goes up to level 7 on me too but we go deeper every time... last one was at 55mj, level 7 at 8 passes. Overall, I am satisfied with the results. i had punch excisions done and they looked worse than before so it definately helped shrink the marks left from them. I have about 2-3 that are still noticable to me, boxcar ones that are much improved. My plan is to get 2 more but only spot treatment on my cheeks at $300. I do not feel I have hypopigmentation.. lucky me. but I do wear tinted moisturizer so I don't really notice. What's the most people have gotten? I mean I wouldn't mind doing 8 if I keep getting better results every time as I have so far!

Did you see any improvment on seond treatments? Also how long did you noticed your scars disappearing. Is your doctor any where in Los Angeles, CA? If yes, do you mind sharing the info with me.

Thanks,

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Fraxel Restore has worked for me given that I've had moderate expectations. My initial expectation was to have about 35% improvement after 5 Fraxels, which was successfully achieved. I then decided to go for three more with the expectation of additional 15% improvement. I'm going for my 7th in March.

If you consider Fraxel Restore, try only if you're willing and capable to go for at least 5 treatments. Be sure that you have the patience, time, energy and emotional strength to go through ups and downs, possible breakouts, redness and dry skin. Treating acne scars with Fraxel Restore require 1. determination, 2. determination, and 3. determination!!

Good luck to you all.


Fraxel II Full Face

1st Treatment

02/26/2008

35MJ, Treatment Level 4

8 Passes

2nd Treatment

03/20/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 5

8 passes

3rd Treatment

04/10/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

8 passes

4th Treatment

05/07/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

5th Treatment

06/11/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

(7 month break here)

6th Treatment

01/24/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

7th Treatment

03/04/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

8th Treatment

04/15/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

(7 month break here)

9th Treatment

11/25/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes


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cutie, I get fraxels done on the east coast. I have to say it improved a little each time but really noticed improvment the last time. I never tried the copper peptide thing, I do sometime before I got to bed put mederma on top of my scars and also biofine cream seems to help. I've only done 4 treatments. bellydance, wow the settings you've done on the last 2 were VERY high! Isn't that risky for asian skin?

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cutie, I get fraxels done on the east coast. I have to say it improved a little each time but really noticed improvment the last time. I never tried the copper peptide thing, I do sometime before I got to bed put mederma on top of my scars and also biofine cream seems to help. I've only done 4 treatments. bellydance, wow the settings you've done on the last 2 were VERY high! Isn't that risky for asian skin?

hi,sunblocks,

are you in nyc?

thxx~~

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bellydance, i am interested in finding out which doctor in nyc is performing your latest fraxel restores treatments. you can send me a message directly if you'd like. thanks!

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bellydance, wow the settings you've done on the last 2 were VERY high! Isn't that risky for asian skin?

Well, it depends on the type of Asian skin you have since you can be fair, medium and dark Asian.

I am very fair-skinned so that could be the reason why I experienced no discoloration issues when it comes to Fraxel. I had experienced a lot of breakouts, but with antibiotics, the problem has been solved 99%.


Fraxel II Full Face

1st Treatment

02/26/2008

35MJ, Treatment Level 4

8 Passes

2nd Treatment

03/20/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 5

8 passes

3rd Treatment

04/10/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

8 passes

4th Treatment

05/07/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

5th Treatment

06/11/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

(7 month break here)

6th Treatment

01/24/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

7th Treatment

03/04/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

8th Treatment

04/15/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

(7 month break here)

9th Treatment

11/25/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes


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bellydance, i am interested in finding out which doctor in nyc is performing your latest fraxel restores treatments. you can send me a message directly if you'd like. thanks!

I had them done by Dr. Rokhsar. He has offices in Manhattan and Long Island (Garden City right by the mall). He charges $1200 per Fraxel and his consultation fee is $150, which is going to be applied toward $1200 if you decided to have the procedure.

He's a very nice person and approachable, so you should ask him any questions you have during consultation. He's awesome.


Fraxel II Full Face

1st Treatment

02/26/2008

35MJ, Treatment Level 4

8 Passes

2nd Treatment

03/20/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 5

8 passes

3rd Treatment

04/10/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

8 passes

4th Treatment

05/07/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

5th Treatment

06/11/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

(7 month break here)

6th Treatment

01/24/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

7th Treatment

03/04/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

8th Treatment

04/15/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

(7 month break here)

9th Treatment

11/25/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes


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I am in the middle area in terms of Asian skin shade.

The setting for the last Fraxel Re:Store sessions:

60mj 6 TL 8 passes.

I am very pleased with the results.

Be patient.

I think you'll find the results start to become very apparent after the 4/5 treatment, spread a 4-5 weeks apart.

I am reluctant to put a % improvement after six sessions.

But, I can comfortably write that my skin has probably improved by at least 40%.

Be sure to use the appropriate depth and spread in your settings.

There is no point spending thousands of dollars, undergoing hours of discomfort, and living with continued disappointment with low settings. I was advised that my settings were a bit too high for Asian type skin.

Be sure to do all the other things to help with your recovery:

Stop smoking

Get enough rest

Eat well

Drink lots of vit-c drinks like Apple, Mango, OJ...

Relax

Avoid the sun and wear lots of high block sunscreen

Not sure if it helps, but I insist they NOT put cortisone on my face after the Fraxel session. It is applied to reduce swelling. I stopped using cortisone after reading how prolonged use can thin out the skin. In any case, after the Fraxel, the skin is relatively raw and vulnerable. I don't see what good cortisone can do other than the comfort of reduced swelling. In my opinion, I can do without it.

I will be getting another set of Fraxel Re:Store sessions in the late Autumn.

These sessions will be spot treatments, not the entire face.

I would like a bit more improvement in the left temple area and the forehead.

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Hi,

I am Korean American and after much debate... I got Fraxel Repair done. My skin is a bit dark for Korean. Doctor said my skin is Fitzpatrick IV.

Today is post 14 day. My skin hyperpigmented! My face looks so much darker than rest of my body. I am so worried. The doctor put me on hydroquinone about a week ago. I can't tell if it's helping or not yet. I will be meeting my doctor tomorrow and I will be asking him about my skin condition, etc.

I asked my doctor about this issue before I got procedure and he made it sound like it's not even an issue...but now I realize I should have done more research, etc.

Please be careful before you get Fraxel Repair!

If anybody has any experience with similar issues, etc, please let me know and share your story!

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Today is post 14 day. My skin hyperpigmented! My face looks so much darker than rest of my body. I am so worried. The doctor put me on hydroquinone about a week ago. I can't tell if it's helping or not yet. I will be meeting my doctor tomorrow and I will be asking him about my skin condition, etc.

I asked my doctor about this issue before I got procedure and he made it sound like it's not even an issue...but now I realize I should have done more research, etc.

Please be careful before you get Fraxel Repair!

If anybody has any experience with similar issues, etc, please let me know and share your story!

I had to read your post three times to comprehend your issue...

Um, it's only the 14th day after Fraxel Repair, correct? I've only done Restores, which takes less healing periods than Repair, but I've had temporary discoloration (reddish/tanned skin) that last about anywhere from one month to three months and I've never thought of it as an issue at all. It's your skin's healing process. I mean, do you expect your skin to go back to the condition/coloring that it was before the treatment, after only 14 days from your treatment!?! That's completely unrealistic!

I understand that you're in a panic mode, but it's too soon to freak out. Your skin needs time to heal.


Fraxel II Full Face

1st Treatment

02/26/2008

35MJ, Treatment Level 4

8 Passes

2nd Treatment

03/20/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 5

8 passes

3rd Treatment

04/10/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

8 passes

4th Treatment

05/07/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

5th Treatment

06/11/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

(7 month break here)

6th Treatment

01/24/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

7th Treatment

03/04/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

8th Treatment

04/15/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

(7 month break here)

9th Treatment

11/25/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes


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