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#41 philidias

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 07:28 PM

First of all, Labgirl81 I'm glad that you don't believe everything that's on the internet. That's good.

Secondly, I personally know people and read about people who have used the urine therapy to help cure/help with many of their condition including acne.

Why the hell would people say it has worked for them?
To profit from it? To trick people to do it? That's would be the most absurd things I've heard. Very few people do try to trick people, but for most of the people who have actually done the therapy, it has worked. Why would people dedicate building 1000's of websites after websites telling people the stories from other people around the world that the therapy has helped them greatly. Why do 100,000's of people do it everyday? They must be stupid because it's "water solubale" or whatever you said why it didn't work or maybe it's because it's doing something.

You should know that science has its limitations.
Why does a curve ball defy the laws of physics? According to your iterpretation., it's simply impossible. If science can't prove it, then it's simply not true. It's a figment of your imagination. Maybe oneday, science will get advanced enough to find out why urine works for most of the people.

People like you need to be openminded to other people alternative health practices. Why the hell are you a mod? I admire Jess for being openminded. She doesn't say things like you: "It's sad that you guys are so desprate to find a cure that you resort to putting excriment on your faces....eeeewww........." Degrading people like that. You need to be supporting people for trying innovative ways of fighting acne and other conditions. Now some methods should not be encouraged, but methods like the urine therapy should.

I know Labgirl81 that you want to help people, but sometimes you just go to far.

I don't want this thread to become a flame thread. But I just had to say this.

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE(philidias @ May 3 2006, 09:28 PM) View Post

First of all, Labgirl81 I'm glad that you don't believe everything that's on the internet. That's good.

Secondly, I personally know people and read about people who have used the urine therapy to help cure/help with many of their condition including acne.

Why the hell would people say it has worked for them?
To profit from it? To trick people to do it? That's would be the most absurd things I've heard. Very few people do try to trick people, but for most of the people who have actually done the therapy, it has worked. Why would people dedicate building 1000's of websites after websites telling people the stories from other people around the world that the therapy has helped them greatly. Why do 100,000's of people do it everyday? They must be stupid because it's "water solubale" or whatever you said why it didn't work or maybe it's because it's doing something.

You should know that science has its limitations.
Why does a curve ball defy the laws of physics? According to your iterpretation., it's simply impossible. If science can't prove it, then it's simply not true. It's a figment of your imagination. Maybe oneday, science will get advanced enough to find out why urine works for most of the people.

People like you need to be openminded to other people alternative health practices. Why the hell are you a mod? I admire Jess for being openminded. She doesn't say things like you: "It's sad that you guys are so desprate to find a cure that you resort to putting excriment on your faces....eeeewww........." Degrading people like that. You need to be supporting people for trying innovative ways of fighting acne and other conditions. Now some methods should not be encouraged, but methods like the urine therapy should.

I know Labgirl81 that you want to help people, but sometimes you just go to far.

I don't want this thread to become a flame thread. But I just had to say this.



Hey I was open minded enough to try your coconut oil cure (which only resulted in a really bad breakout...thanks). Why am I a mod?....I don't know......I was asked to be a mod so I agreed....You can PM Dan and ask him to remove my mod status. I never offered to be one in the first place.......

All I was doing was showing the other side, I'm a huge skeptic....maybe I shouldn't be a mod.......people on this bard really are desprate to find a cure. Kids slather coconut oil on their faces and olive oil and whatever else that's in their pantries (baking soda has to be the wost one I've heard of)......maybe I'll start a "Drano Cures Acne" thread somewhere......I just feel bad that you guys would put urine on your faces over something like a topical retinoid, which has so many studies backing up it's effectivenss........a few kids who grew out of acne coincidently (or were using another medication) at the same time they started putting urine on their faces come here and say "urine cured my acne"...... it gives kids false hope

The advise of someone's grandmother in Sweden doesn't matter to me.....the hokey holistic site that totes the thousands of dieases drinking or bathing in ones own urine cures....and I take it with a grain of salt........what makes that person an expert ancedotal evidance, hearsay.....the placebo effect?????

No one has even stated how or why urine has an effect on acne....do so and I may have a more open mind (my pee still goes in the toilet though.....not on my face).......make it a bit more convincing then the coconut oil thing please (at least I know how to make my acne worse to get tane next month)........


I don't want this to be a flame thread either....I just wanted to give some of you folks a little perspective.......

Please PM dan and have him remove my mod status if you feel that I should not be a mod because I am offending you......

Just note...I did not curse or say one offensive thing to anyone.........






P.S. a curve ball does not defy the laws of physics........

It actually obeys them very nicely......it's called the Magnus Effect, due to the stiches on the ball......as the ball spins the pressure (drag) on one side is not equal to the pressue on the other side....so the ball curves........high school physics......no quantum mechanics required......

Fm = KwVCv

Fm is the Magnus Force, K is the Magnus Coefficient, w is the spin frequency measured in rpm, V is ball's velocity in mph, Cv is the drag coefficient

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Posted 04 May 2006 - 05:34 AM

Hey guys, Labgirl didn't mean to offend anyone and her reaction was completely valid imo. Weve been trained since birth-since we were in diapers- that urine is waste, that it belongs in the toilet. Who hasn't been grossed out when they sat down on some spray that the previous person left on the seat shock.gif evil.gif which strangely eough, happens more often to women than you'd think. anyways the only thing I can really remember hearing is that 'urine is sterile' but I didn't attribute much to it. I've always unquestionably thought it was waste.



I think Labgirl is a great mod, and I was actually the one who asked her to be on the team and I nominated her. She's very open minded and thorough, and Im guessing there just isn't enough info to convince her of this. That's OK...I don't really expect there to be an abundance of research proving urine therapy..maybe we can change that though.



I think it's awesome that we may have the chance, here, to prove whether urine therapy works or not for acne. With people's reports of how it's working for them, maybe we can put the idea to rest as something that doesn't help, or maybe this could open up new doors for many sufferers. I'm hoping for the best..



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Posted 07 May 2006 - 07:46 AM

i've been doing the Urine therapy for about 3 days now, and no i do not find this nasty unlike some immature people. I'm so happy with the outcome, its working faster then i pictured. I only get acne from VERY oily skin, otherwise my skin would be clear! No matter what i did/used my face was oily. Using urine on my face STOPS the oil from coming.

no oily skin = NO ACNE eusa_dance.gif

My skin is looking alot softer, almost to the point of baby skin.

During the day i try to drink as much water as possible for the cleanest urine, the cleaner the better for your skin.

TRY IT ... you'll love it


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Posted 07 May 2006 - 08:35 AM

Hey everyone... So I'm back.... I see this thread is heating up a bit! I'll explain a few things to set the record straight.

My experiences so far
Really good! The skin is looking really nice now! Actually the best is has been in 6 years! And I'm only using urine now, on it's own.

The acne, nearly gone. I think I spoke too soon before. And I've noticed the darker the urine is, the more it works. I think I've answered some of these questions before, but I'll do it again in case I missed some.

How I apply it: I piss in a container, and just dab it on with my fingers. 5 minutes later and I can't smell it.
How long?: I put it on at night, leave it on, and wash it off in the morning.
Fresh or old?: Fresh. No one in real life knows. No friends, or family. Not even on line friends. The stigma's just too great. Even if old was better, I couldn't keep it there. Someone might find it. I guess there isn't much more to say, it's working great! Alot better than I thought it would. Feel free to ask questions.

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"I won't pass judgement on the people putting urine on their own face, but just please please be courteous enough to warn anyone before kissing/touching your face."

Lmao lol.gif , don't worry. That's never happened, and it won't in this decade. I assure you.

To be honest, the only reason you aren't trying it is because of the stigma associated with it. The stuff is sterile, and full of vitamins, minerals, and chemicals the kidney's doesn't want. But those happen to be anti-biotics. The reason why it's known as so dirty, is because it's full of nutrients. So naturally bacteria, paracites, insects, and other microbes and such love to feed off it. Then it becomes infected. Then if a bit touches you, well you'll develop an infection. But when you apply it to your face, it dries up within 5 or so minutes. No problem. But if you do keep it, make sure it's sealed tight!

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(If you actually do think urine therapy works, don't bother reading below)

And to clear up 'Labgirl'...

"Actually urine is a waste product. It's the product of out bodies' excratory systems...."
Yes. Yes it is. Just because the internal organs don't want it, it doesn't mean the external ones don't.
An example is fertilizer. I'm sure eating chicken shit won't help us. But it helps plants thanks to the nitrogen and phosphate. Each organ craves different nutrients.

"chemically there isn't much in urine would could cure acne.......the slight antimicorbial action and the excess of water soluble vitamins don't do much......the solutes in urine are just that solutes.....in water....."

Urine is just constituted of vitamins. And if you knew what solubility meant, you'd know it was a good thing. You mention that urine is mostly made of water. Well thanks to the excremental hypothesis of the quasi-superficial epidermal, it will filter the 'solutes'. If it were fat soluble, then it wouldn't go as far, like your somewhat-inefficient retinoid derivatives.

"Water soluble molecules have a hell of a time pasing through the epidermal lipid barrier......fat soluble molecues penetrate with greater ease......so exactly what does applying to to skin do????"

But that's the point. The barrier removes the covalent bond with water. A nice, clean filter.

"That's where the good stuff is......lipid soluble metabolites like the metabloites of vitamin A, like trans- retinoic acid, cis-9-retinoic acid, cis-11-retinoic acid, and cis-13-retinoic acid (Isotretionin) are found in feces.....not urine.......But who in their right mind would put feces on their face???...... "

The good stuff? Oral retinoids will yank your neurotransmitters 5-hydroxy-tryptamine, norepinephrine, dopamine, epinephrine, GABA, acetylcholine, and all the rest considerable amounts for the rest of your life. Providing you're at the threshold limit for it to work on you. Thyroid levels go down, which slows metabolism. Synapses shrink to pathetic sizes, hence the migraines. I won't bother going further.

So you say you don't believe websites. Fair enough. Here's some trials in scientific Journals/magazines.

As medical researchers have discovered:
"Urine is the main component of the amniotic fluid that bathes the human fetus.
"Normally the baby 'breathes' this urine-filled amniotic fluid into its lungs. If the urinary tract is blocked, the fetus does not produce the fluid, and, without it, the lungs do not develop."
(G. Kolata, "Surgery on Fetuses Reveals They Heal Without Scars", The New York Times, Medical Section, 16 August 1988)


And medical researchers have discovered that many of the elements of the blood that are found in urine have enormous medicinal value, and when they are reintroduced into the body they boost the body's immune defences and stimulate healing in a way that nothing else does.
As medical research has revealed:
"One of the most important functions of the kidney is to excrete material and substances for which the body has no immediate need..."
(A. H. Free, and H. M. Free, Urinalysis in Clinical and Laboratory Practice, CRC Press, Inc., USA, 1975, pp. 13-17)


For instance, the kidneys filter out water and sodium from the blood into the urine. These are both vital life-sustaining elements without which your body cannot function. But both elements could be lethal if there were too much water or sodium in your blood.
Now what about potassium, calcium and magnesium? These are familiar nutrients that we ingest in our food and vitamin pills every day, but they're also in your urine. These nutritional elements are extremely valuable substances to the body, certainly not toxic, and yet the kidney excretes these elements into the urine. Why? Because it's taking out the excess amounts of potassium, calcium, etc. that are not needed by your body at the time they are filtered out. Actually, it is this regulating process of the kidneys and the excretion of urine that allows us to eat and drink more than our bodies need at any one time.
"The principal function of the kidney is not excretion, but regulation... The kidney obviously conserves what we need, but, even more, permits us the freedom of excess. That is, it allows us to take in more than we need of many necessities-water and salt, for example-and excrete exactly what is not required."
(Dr Stewart Cameron [Professor of Renal Medicine, Guy's Hospital, London], Kidney Disease: The Facts, Oxford University Press, Oxford, UK, 1986)



Scientists have discovered that urine, because it is actually extracted from our blood, contains small amounts of almost all of the life-sustaining nutrients, proteins, hormones, antibodies and immunising agents that our blood contains.
"Urine can be regarded as one of the most complex of all body fluids. It contains practically all of the constituents found in the blood."
(A. H. Free and H. M. Free, Urinalysis in Clinical and Laboratory Practice, CRC Press, Inc., USA, 1975, pp. 13-17)



To us, the public, urine seems like an undesirable waste product of the body, but to the medical research community and the drug industry it's been considered to be liquid gold. Don't believe it? Read this:
"Utica, Michigan - Realising it is flushing potential profits down the drain, an enterprising young company has come up with a way to trap medically powerful proteins from urine. Enzymes of America has designed a special filter that collects important urine proteins, and these filters have been installed in all of the men's urinals in the 10,000 portable outhouses owned by the Porta-John company, a subsidiary of Enzymes of America.
"Urine is known to contain minute amounts of proteins made by the body, including medically important ones such as growth hormone and insulin. There is a $500-million-a-year market for these kinds of urine ingredients.
"This summer, Enzymes of America plans to market its first major urine product called urokinase, an enzyme that dissolves blood clots and is used to treat victims of heart attacks. The company has contracts to supply the urine enzyme to Sandoz, Merrell Dow and other major pharmaceutical companies. Ironically, this enterprise evolved from Porta-John's attempt to get rid of urine proteins-a major source of odour in portable toilets.
"When the president of Porta-John began consulting with scientists about a urine filtration system, one told him he was sitting on a gold mine.
"The idea of recycling urine is not new, however. 'We thought about this,' says 26 Whitcome of Amgen, a Los Angeles biotechnology firm, 'but realised we'd need thousands and thousands of litres of urine.'
"Porta-John and Enzymes of America solved that problem. The 14 million gallons flowing annually into Porta-John's privies contain about four-and-a-half pounds of urokinase alone. That's enough to unclog 260,000 coronary arteries."
("Now Urine Business", Hippocrates magazine, May/June 1988)


But urokinase isn't the only drug derived from urine that, unknown to us, has been a financial boon to the pharmaceutical industry.
In August of 1993, Forbes magazine printed an article about Fabio Bertarelli who owns the world's largest fertility drug-producing company, the Ares-Serono Group, based in Geneva, whose most important product is the drug Pergonal which increases the chances of conception. Guess what Pergonal is made from?
"To make Pergonal, Ares-Serono collects urine samples from 110,000 postmenopausal women volunteers in Italy, Spain, Brazil and Argentina. From 26 collection centres, the urine is sent to Rome where Ares-Serono technicians then isolate the ovulation-enhancing hormone."
(N. Munk, "The Child is the Father of the Man", Forbes Magazine, 16 August 1993)


An article, titled "Autouro- therapy", published in the New York State Journal of Medicine (vol. 80, no. 7, June 1980), written by Dr John R. Herman, Clinical Professor of Urology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine in New York City, points out the general misconceptions regarding urine and its medical use:
"Autouropathy (urine therapy) did flourish in many parts of the world and it continues to flourish today... There is, unknown to most of us, a wide usage of uropathy and a great volume of knowledge available showing the multitudinous advantages of this modality...
"Urine is only a derivative of the blood... If the blood should not be considered 'unclean', then the urine also should not be so considered. Normally excreted, urine is a fluid of tremendous variations of composition...
"...Actually, the listed constituents of human urine can be carefully checked and no items not found in human diet are found in it. Percentages differ, of course, but urinary constituents are valuable to human metabolism..."
Look up urea in a medical dictionary. In Mosby's Medical and Nursing Dictionary, urea is defined not as a useless body waste but as a systemic diuretic and topical skin treatment. It's also prescribed to reduce excess fluid pressure on the brain and eyes.


Uric acid, another ingredient of urine, is normally thought of as an undesirable waste product of the body that causes gout. But even uric acid has recently been found to have tremendous health-promotion and medical implications.
Medical researchers at the University of California at Berkeley reported in 1982 that they have discovered that:
"Uric acid could be a defence against cancer and ageing.
"It also destroys body-damaging chemicals, called free radicals, that are present in food, water and air and are considered to be a cause of cancer and breakdowns in immune function.
"Uric acid could be one of the things that enables human beings to live so much longer than other mammals."
(O. Davies, "Youthful Uric Acid", Omni magazine, October 1982)



These drugs have been derived from urea:

Ureaphil: diuretic made from urea
Urofollitropin: urine-extract fertility drug
Ureacin: urea cream for skin problems
Amino-Cerv: urea cream used for cervical treatments
Premarin: urine-extract oestrogen supplement
Panafil: urea/papain ointment for skin ulcers, burns and infected wounds



And this is what urine contains:

Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

[In 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice]

Have fun finding a medication with that amount of ingredients for the same price. eusa_dance.gif

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 09:36 AM

Congrats Jackson. I'm happy that the Urine Therapy is working for you.

Someone said to me that: "A lot of ppl are just too set in their ways that our society dictates to us."



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Posted 07 May 2006 - 09:44 AM

My advice would be find out what the active ingredient in urine is and try and source it from elsewhere!

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:04 AM

To Jackson,
That is some incredible research. I read all of it, and I must say I'm impressed.
Although I dont think I would ever partake in doing this simply because I hope to be cured after my course of accutane, and will not need this.
Good luck to you.

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 01:16 PM

Pft I had a topic in the regime log 4 weeks ago. It works, but nobody will listen because they think it is gross.

If you can live with the pain of acne, being alone, scared to show your face in public, you can surely put some water with minerals in it on your face. And if you do not go no where ever and sit on the couch and watch tv by yourself, who is going to smell it, only you.

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 04:48 PM

Hey, anyone has any before and after photos of using urine on their face?

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 06:50 PM

Wasn't there a rapper or someone who helped out a poor lass with acne?

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 03:39 PM

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 04:45 AM

I was reading this thread (out of pure curiousity shock.gif ) and noticed Allantoin in that list. For anyone who's interested Allantion is a keratolylitic agent (thier like the FBI only more sneaky ninja.gif ), i personally think its excellent but im not saying you should go wee wee though, you can buy it in cosmetics.







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Posted 10 May 2006 - 01:21 PM

QUOTE(philidias @ May 3 2006, 09:28 PM) View Post

She doesn't say things like you: "It's sad that you guys are so desprate to find a cure that you resort to putting excriment on your faces....eeeewww........." Degrading people like that. You need to be supporting people for trying innovative ways of fighting acne and other conditions. Now some methods should not be encouraged, but methods like the urine therapy should.


i don't think labgirl necessarily meant to offend those out there that want to try the urine method. i think by "sad" she meant that it was sad that we (and by that, I mean all acne sufferers) have to go through things we wouldnt normally try, just to get rid of our acne.

anyway, those of you who are trying this...continue to keep us all updated...like a lot of others on here, I'm curious. I have some BP that I use (8%....and I can't remember the exact name of it)...that says "in a urea vehicle" on the front. I'm not sure what this means exactly...by "urea," does it mean waste products are in there? It seems to be pretty effective when I put it on new pimples...so i won't question the ingredients ninja.gif haha

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 02:02 PM

Cool. Glad its working for you. Im taking medications, doxycyline and tretinoin and my skin is clear. I would however, like to get off of these! So, your just using urine and not the acne medication M(whatever it was called)? And after you apply it at night, you just wash your face with water the next morning? After you do that, do you do anything else in the morning? Like wash your face with certain soap?

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 02:06 PM

isn't urine mostly salt and water + waste?
clean your face with salt + water maybe?

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 07:02 PM

Stop flaming guys. If you want to flame, start another thread. These thread was created by Jackson so he can post his experiences with the urine therapy. Recently, he probably stopped posting on this thread because you guys keep on flaming.

If you have something negative to say, create another thread. Half the post on this thread is how ridiculous this is.

Anyways, Jackson do you have any updates with the therapy?

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Posted 11 May 2006 - 10:21 PM

If its working for him then I doubt he gives a shit about what the flamers think..

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 11:02 AM

this reminds me of one of my aunt's stories.. she was i think travelling in some other country and was talking to this woman with beautiful skin, and my aunt asked her how she got her skin so nice, and the woman said in this crazy accent "i pee on my hand, and splash it on my face" or something like to that... i think it's cool that you're trying this. if i heard that it cured acne, i'd probably do it too. but until then, i think i'll stick to bp :]

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Posted 15 May 2006 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE(Jacks0n @ May 7 2006, 10:35 AM) View Post


And to clear up 'Labgirl'...


"Actually urine is a waste product. It's the product of out bodies' excratory systems...."
Yes. Yes it is. Just because the internal organs don't want it, it doesn't mean the external ones don't.
An example is fertilizer. I'm sure eating chicken shit won't help us. But it helps plants thanks to the nitrogen and phosphate. Each organ craves different nutrients.

"chemically there isn't much in urine would could cure acne.......the slight antimicorbial action and the excess of water soluble vitamins don't do much......the solutes in urine are just that solutes.....in water....."

Urine is just constituted of vitamins. And if you knew what solubility meant, you'd know it was a good thing. You mention that urine is mostly made of water. Well thanks to the excremental hypothesis of the quasi-superficial epidermal, it will filter the 'solutes'. If it were fat soluble, then it wouldn't go as far, like your somewhat-inefficient retinoid derivatives.

"Water soluble molecules have a hell of a time pasing through the epidermal lipid barrier......fat soluble molecues penetrate with greater ease......so exactly what does applying to to skin do????"

But that's the point. The barrier removes the covalent bond with water. A nice, clean filter.

"That's where the good stuff is......lipid soluble metabolites like the metabloites of vitamin A, like trans- retinoic acid, cis-9-retinoic acid, cis-11-retinoic acid, and cis-13-retinoic acid (Isotretionin) are found in feces.....not urine.......But who in their right mind would put feces on their face???...... "

The good stuff? Oral retinoids will yank your neurotransmitters 5-hydroxy-tryptamine, norepinephrine, dopamine, epinephrine, GABA, acetylcholine, and all the rest considerable amounts for the rest of your life. Providing you're at the threshold limit for it to work on you. Thyroid levels go down, which slows metabolism. Synapses shrink to pathetic sizes, hence the migraines. I won't bother going further.............


OMG!!!!! Frist of all the epidermis doesn't filter out solutes from solution.....they say in solution and the solution must pass through the epidermal lipid barrier, since water and water soluble molecules can't pass though the lipid barrier easily they need to pass through the corenocytes of the stratum corneum......which have thick cell envlopes that make penetration almost impossible.........Um and when I said "good stuff" I was referring to topical and oral retinoids.......retinoic acid blows allantoin out of the water in efficiency........

QUOTE(Jacks0n @ May 7 2006, 10:35 AM) View Post


And this is what urine contains:

Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day

[In 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice]

Have fun finding a medication with that amount of ingredients for the same price. eusa_dance.gif



Could you do me a favor and tell me exactly what each of those substances does to the skin (nevermind the fact that most of them can't penetrate beyond the upper layers of the stratum corneum)....and exactly how each of those actully influences comedo formation and sebum production.........

And they seen to be in such a low concentration ....how in the world would they do anything?.........and I dount that that list is all that urine contains........it depends on if you smpke or drink alcohol.....injest caffine......and how much water you drink.....whatever medications you are on and you diet in general.......

I know what retinoids do....but I'm not sure about all that other stuff....(I have put allantoin on my skin.....it helps heal wounds).....Please explain.......

K thanks....




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