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#1 Dan

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 08:55 AM

I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen.

I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being.

I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 09:02 AM

Good thing the winter months are over and dryness will be much less of a problem for the next few months. Hopefully it'll give you the time you need. Good luck, Dan.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 25 2006, 10:55 AM) View Post

I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen.

I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being.

I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required.



What about Eucerin Extra Protective Moisture Lotion, SPF 30? Is that their replacement for the d/c one? It also has AHA.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:35 PM

Or what about this?
http://www.acnedocto..._beta_lipo.html

It's SPF15, non-comedogenic, and also has AHA (lactic acid).

I've never tried it but the ingredients look similar.

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Posted 25 April 2006 - 03:48 PM

that product ^ is loaded with oils! I'd not use it at all.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:00 AM

QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 25 2006, 08:55 AM) View Post

I got a PM from someone who was confused about whether AHA was a required element of the regimen. It is not. I love Eucerin Skin Renewal, which contains lactic acid--a very mild AHA, but AHA is not at all required. In fact, glycolic acid, which is the usual form of AHA, is usually too much for people when they're first starting out on the regimen.

I have been trying lots of samples of moisturizers from various manufacturers in an attempt to make a replacement moisturizer myself, and have found that AHA is not required for adequate moisturization. However, the various manufacturers who have been scurrying to make us a moisturizer have not hit on something that's as good as Eucerin yet. Some of the samples I've tried are too stinky, some are too thick, and some leave my face too tight. Therefore, to prevent severe flakiness in some people, I recommend the addition of AHA as discussed at http://www.acne.org/aha.html for the time being.

I'm going to try KissMyFace moisturizer as soon as I can get some and see what that's like. Since Eucerin was discontinued from Drugstore.com and I still haven't gotten my manufacturers to make the perfect replacement, we're gonna have to try some new ones 'til we find a good solution. In the meantime, if your skin gets super dry with whatever other moisturizer you're using, the addition of AHA might help, but is in no way required.


Don't use Kiss My Face whatever you do!! It has a ton of oil in it, it is comedogenic (and doesn't even claim not to be). The second ingredient is Isopropyl Palmitate which is extremely comedogenic (along with many of the other ingredients in it). I use it on my hands, but it won't touch my face.

Seems like a lot of people like Neutrogena Healthy Skin w/ AHA. Why do you not recommend that one?


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Posted 26 April 2006 - 08:27 AM

Kiss My Face Alpha and Aloe is oil-free
http://www.drugstore...BUY-PLST-0-SRCH


^ This product contains 5% AHA according to the product description.

Neutrogena Healthy Skin face lotion contains either 7 or 8% (I can't remember specifically) and it is a fairly strong product. Even when I talk to people about trying it out to help with hyperpigmentation, I recommend using only a very small amount and only once a day or every other day. It is typically too strong for twice daily usage.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 08:32 AM

That moisturizer actually looks, good, really good. How come companies just state AHA instead of telling us which AHA it is? I know 12% lactic acid is much more gentle on my skin than 8% glycolic acid, so it's quite important to know which it is.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 09:11 AM

I couldn't find the KissMyFace but I did find the Neutrogena Healthy Face, and the Eucerin Extra Protective. So, I tried the Healthy Face last night and it's a tiny bottle for like $13 and has way too much scent in it. But I'll use it a few times and see if it moisturizes well enough. I'll also try the Extra Protective Eucerin and see how that goes. I'm also supposed to get the latest sample of a moisturizer from a new manufactuer this morning via FedEx. So fingers crossed on that. I'll keep you guys posted.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 09:30 AM

yea, I agree, the scent of the Neutrogena Healthy Skin is what kept me from using it for very long, I just could not stand the fragrance, and I could smell it all day long! lol.
I have also tried the Eucerin Extra Protective lotion and found it was white and did not rub in well at all, it just stayed white on my skin! But, that was also when I was still using Neutrogena On-the-Spot, so it might work better with the CSR gel.
And even though Eucerin Extra Protective lotion says "oil-free" on the lable, it has castor oil in the ingredients list!

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 09:58 AM

Kiss My Face Alpha and Aloe IS COMEDOGENIC.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 05:55 PM

Well, I tried the latest sample from another manufacturer today, and once again it wasn't quite right. That's sample #16 that I've tried. Incredible. So they're redoing it yet again, as is another manufacturer. In the meantime, let's keep trying different stuff to find something good. I'm going to try the Extra Protective Eucerin tonight and I'll let you know what I think of it tomorrow.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:01 PM

I emailed the customer service person at the Kiss My Face website, asking what AHA they used in that moisturizer and whether or not it was non-comedogenic. Depending on the answer I'll go down to the local health food store because I know they sell it there and I'll try it out. I think I'll be fine for quite a few months anyway with my 3 bottles of Eucerin.

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:18 PM

QUOTE(SuperFly @ Apr 25 2006, 10:02 AM) View Post

Good thing the winter months are over and dryness will be much less of a problem for the next few months. Hopefully it'll give you the time you need. Good luck, Dan.


My dryness has gotten worse since winter ended. And I'm clear now and using less bp than I was then.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:19 AM

Are eucerin products in short supply??

I saw loads at my local boots in UK

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:24 AM

I tried the Eucerin Extra Protective. Wow, it was bad, at least with BP. lol. It stayed on my skin and white. I couldn't get it absorbed. Then I woke up this morning and was really dry. So...that's a serious no go. I'm going to try the Complex15 again today. I liked it the last 2 times I tried it. ho dee hum. Anybody else have suggestions on good moisturizers?

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:28 AM

Well if your willing to import from the UK Eucerin dry skin relief face cream with 5% urea if great and contain AHA, I don't think theres any plans to discontinue it any time soon either. Its available at www.boots.com I think its avilable in Canada too so maybe it would be cheaper to import from there smile.gif

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:28 AM

i've used 2 bottles of neutrogena healthy skin face lotion spf 15 w/ 8% glycolic acid. 2 pumps, 2 times a day. i love it. it stings for a few minutes, but it's not bad

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:51 AM

QUOTE(Dan @ Apr 27 2006, 11:24 AM) View Post

I tried the Eucerin Extra Protective. Wow, it was bad, at least with BP. lol. It stayed on my skin and white. I couldn't get it absorbed. Then I woke up this morning and was really dry. So...that's a serious no go. I'm going to try the Complex15 again today. I liked it the last 2 times I tried it. ho dee hum. Anybody else have suggestions on good moisturizers?


The exact same thing happened to me with the Eucerin Extra Protective, lol. lol.gif It was just WHITE.


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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:58 AM

I recently started using Dove Deep Moisture. While I haven't tried Eucerin, I tried a few others and none of them kept the flakes away. The BP had turned my nose and cheekbone area into one big callous. This Dove moisturizer softened my whole face, so I don't feel like an alien anymore. It has SPF, but doesn't sting my face like the others did, and it doesn't make me shiny.

Anyway, maybe that's another one to look into.