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ACNE-FREE PLAN by P.Ki113R

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Interesting information. I am curious to see what people say about it. It sounds like you're doing your homework. Very well thought out. I give it an A+

Thank you.

Have a question about this for P.Ki11eR I used the H&S with zinc for the zits on my neck and it turned out badley! Took me a week to get it cleared up and gave me uber dry patches that I am still dealing with. I really want to get rid of the zits on my neck which is the only place I break out but am terrified of going through that nitemare again! Is this stuff better than the other for acne? I just don't know! I know that everyones skin is different and have different reactions but you know where I am coming from on this!

Do not, I repeat DO NOT use H&S on your neck. I am glad you brought it up because I forgot to post that in my regimen. It will make your neck inflamed and you will shed skin like a snake. I think this happens because the neck has a very delicate skin, even when compared to the face.

that sounds good, i read this stuff about maintaining a healthy diet, i also read that refined sugars from carbs are a big problem, even pasta, is this true?

All sugars are bad for you, the less you eat it the better. Processed foods like pasta are refined to such a point that its carbs become like sugar once it gets in our bodies. Refined sugars cause elevated blood sugar levels which is very dangerous. It is also useless for our bodies as it doesn't have any vitamins or minerals that we need to get from food. So yes, it is a problem.


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Supplements:

Breakfast - Multivitamin + additional C (500 mg)

Lunch - Zinc (30mg) + Magnesium (400 mg) + Vitamin B complex (make sure these are calcium free! Calcium will absorb the minerals)

Dinner - Vitamin E (400IU) + Chromium* (500 mcg)

Supper - Vitamins A + C (500-1000mg) + D

*Warning: do not take chromium if you have or had diabetes, kidney or liver problems. Talk to your doctor.

Excuse my scepticism, but don't you think that’s going a little overboard on the supplement front?

I mean, does this suggested vitamin supplementation have any medical backing whatsoever, or merely your 'personal' experience in naturopathy.

I've got nothing against supplementing ones diet with vitamin pills or what have you - I take my multi daily :D - but this regime looks a little over-the-top.

If it’s not too much trouble P.Ki113R, please shed some light!

Cheers.


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Excuse my scepticism, but don't you think that’s going a little overboard on the supplement front?

I mean, does this suggested vitamin supplementation have any medical backing whatsoever, or merely your 'personal' experience in naturopathy.

I've got nothing against supplementing ones diet with vitamin pills or what have you - I take my multi daily - but this regime looks a little over-the-top.

If it’s not too much trouble P.Ki113R, please shed some light!

Vitamins and minerals are an important part of homeostasis. Most people are deficient in at least several of them. I think that it is important to cover all the basis when applying a holistic approach. Multivitamins are great for an average healthy person, but people with acne require more. It has been show, for example, that acne sufferers are often deficient in zinc which is a co-factor in more than 75% of repair systems in the body. Chromium has been shown to reduce or eliminate acne by controlling sugars. Vitamin E speeds up skin cell repair. Vitamin A reduces the fat (sebum) build-up in the pores. All the B vitamins help with both skin and nerve function. Vitamin D is sunshine in the bottle. Most people know that sun is dangerous for acne but deficiency in D is even more dangerous. Vitamin C is a crucial antioxidant. There is simply no reason why a person with acne shouldn't take these supplements.

I should mention that regular breaks for several days a month from supplements should be taken. For vitamin A, the recommended dose is 100,000 IUs daily for 4 weeks, then 75,000 IUs daily for 2-4 weeks, then 50,000 IUs daily for 2-4 weeks.

You can read in-depth description of each vitamin/mineral on websites like wikipedia.com or search the web.


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hey, acne is a fake problem caused by the products you use, the more you use the more you look for some help from other products, its fake, when in history books do you see people with acne, it just started probably in the 60's. its caused by people putting crazy chemicals on their face, their face cant handle it and produces more oil because the poduct dries out the face. The best thing to do is just to splash your face with water 6 to 10 times, not rubbing it, and patting your face dry. of coarse with everything you probably will break out again but only because your face is getting used to it, but after that you wont see any more problems at all, not one more pimple , nothing, it only takes about a month to see major improvements. then after a while you can wash your face less and less, and the oilyness will go away too. i dont know if it works with all types of skin, but i had really bad acne and it worked right away. Acne is created to steal money from good people. havnt you noticed out of most people you probably wash your face more than people without acne? do you notice that the spots that you dont wash your face are the spots with the fewest acne and the spots that you wash your face the most have the most acne?

I assure you that acne has existed for a long time, waaay before the '60s. But it is true that a lot of companies capitalize on our acne problems. They make products that are barely effective and you have to keep using them indefinitely. It is important to be educated about your acne as you would be about any chronic illness you might have. I am glad that simply using water for your acne has helped you and there might be some merit to this idea.

I am also becoming suspicious about Sodium Fluoride in our toothpastes. Fluoride contains fluorine - highly corrosive, poisonous, gaseous halogen element. It doesn't sound too healthy no matter what the ADA says.

well i think fluoride is a stable form, fluorine is highly corrosive and unstable because it has 1 less electron in its outer shell, it needs 1 more to be complete and be stable. Sodium Fluoride means these two elements are bonded so that they fluorine shares an electron with sodium and is now stable, fluoride is not dangerous.

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well i think fluoride is a stable form, fluorine is highly corrosive and unstable because it has 1 less electron in its outer shell, it needs 1 more to be complete and be stable. Sodium Fluoride means these two elements are bonded so that they fluorine shares an electron with sodium and is now stable, fluoride is not dangerous.

Fluoridated water has been linked to bone cancer.

http://www.ewg.org/issues/fluoride/20060405/index.php

Even though Sodium Fluoride is a stable compound, it can non the less be toxic. Dental fluorosis is a good example of an illness caused by overexposure to Sodium Fluoride.

http://www.fluoridealert.org/dental-fluorosis.htm

Sodium Fluoride is primarily used as rat and cockroach poison.

http://www.greaterthings.com/Lexicon/F/Fluoride.htm

Nazi concentration camps used fluoridated water to suppress the will and vigor of inmates.

http://thyroid.about.com/cs/shames/a/fluoride.htm

My opinion is that there is no good reason to put a potentially toxic compound in your mouth. It can be easily absorbed into the blood stream through gums. There should be safer ways to combat cavities.


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uh oh doesnt sound too good, but there is nothing wrong with my parents and grandparents and they have been using toothpaste as far as they can remember :P so i dont think that will really cause acne, one thing is for sure, dont swallow the toothpaste.

And the main problem is with the diet, like your plan earlier, people should avoid certain foods like processed foods and stuff with hydrolyzed oils. I dont think milk can cause acne, but for people who have it, it will aggravate it.

I read somewhere that a major cause of acne is due to the colon, the colon is somewhere in the large intestine where a lot of undigested food stays, and undigested food means what? lots of toxins, so a colon clean out would be a good thing and in reported cases it has stopped acne within a couple of days, enemas can be used, though ive never tried it, but im sure that it cant be bad for you because you are removing junk from your body.

Anyone heard of wheatgrass? research a bit on it, its good for the body, its a detox food, can be taken in fluid form but its a strong internal cleanser so its best to take in small amounts, its full of mineral and vitamins since its a plant.

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Foods don't cause acne, thats for sure. They can only make it worse. Sodium Fluoride will not cause acne either but its an unnecessary toxin that our body has to deal with.

That stuff about colon cleansing is a myth.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/colon-cleansing/AN00065

Wheatgrass sounds like a good source of vitamins but it was never proven to act as a detox.


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then what causes acne?

im beginning to think its food, if i look at my family, from my dad to mother, their siblings, grandparents and so on, they have never had acne, sure at some point someone's had a small zit on their nose which they probably forgot about after 1 week,

but i remember when i went to visit my grandma she asked me what happened to my face, and i told her, duh its acne and its quite normal for teenagers to have it, thats when my parents and grandparents started arguing about its what i eat, and its true, i eat a lot of junk, so much processed foods, i tend to eat what comes in cans and packets and so on than home made food, and i rarely ate vegetables, ofcourse that all changed when i learnt that diet affects acne...

anyways ive come to a conclusion its modern food preparations and what is being added to them in factories that cause acne, so yea pretty much food causes acne at some point depending on how the food is made, where it is made and what bs hormones and chemicals and additives are in it, 50/60 years ago there was very little junk going into food, people didnt go out as much to eat, home cooked food was the 99% of the time, and there definitely wasnt all this hormone additives and bs in food, and it showed in their skin as teenagers.

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It's a good theory but unfortunately acne has existed for much longer than 60 years. Don't forget that people all over the world suffer from acne, even though they eat completely different foods. I was raised in central asia where we didnt have any processed foods or hormone stuffed meat. All food was home-cooked. And yet I still had acne. And so did my mother when she was a teenager.

This is not to say that healthy eating is not important for treating acne. It's just that food in itself is not the cause. Acne is caused by oversecretion of sebum due to hormonal imbalance. Vitamin A, for example, has been shown to reduce the amount of sebum in the pores thereby successfully preventing breakouts. So it's not so much what is in the food as it is what is not in it. If you don't eat healthy you will simply not have the crucial nutrients which can cause lots of problems.


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In teens, hormonal imbalance occurs because when they are maturing the body produces a surge of all kinds of hormones that can overwhelm the system which leads to hormonal imbalance.

In adults it is caused by an impairment in the body's ability (due to many possible factors) to deactivate and expel excess and used hormones from the system. I would rather not discuss my age but I am an adult.


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So from your reply don't use the H&S intensive on your neck? ok, so guess I try something else for the zits on my neck - if you have any suggestions for that acne, let me know. Thanks.

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So from your reply don't use the H&S intensive on your neck? ok, so guess I try something else for the zits on my neck - if you have any suggestions for that acne, let me know. Thanks.

I would just use gentle soap (like Cetaphil) and BP.

If the Head & Shoulders makes your pores smaller does it reduce Sebum production?

Selenium Sulfide in H&SIT does reduce sebum. But I am not sure whether it makes pores smaller. Leave H&SIT on your face for a couple of minutes before washing it off. Make sure you take vitamin A daily to reduce sebum production even further.


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I tried this regimen and it made me break out worse than I have in a few months. I think the H&S (yes the intensive treatment) was the thing that broke me out.

Not this wont work for everyone else but it didnt work for me.

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Great stuff, P.Ki113r, but shouldn't you have some kind of a disclaimer?

I'm not sure a disclaimer is necessary. What would you have me put?

I tried this regimen and it made me break out worse than I have in a few months. I think the H&S (yes the intensive treatment) was the thing that broke me out. Not this wont work for everyone else but it didnt work for me.

I'm sorry to hear that. How long have you tried it for? Did you follow the regimen closely?


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I tried this regimen and it made me break out worse than I have in a few months. I think the H&S (yes the intensive treatment) was the thing that broke me out.

Not this wont work for everyone else but it didnt work for me.

eating healthy is not gonna make u break out, but i dont think you should have applied that H&S thing, as far as i know i use H&S but thats for my hair, not face, i dont think they make products for the face, so that was kind of a gamble, also while following this regimen, did u take alcohol, get stressed a lot?

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I only tried it a few days and noticed I was breaking out terriblly. It also was a bit irritating. Just to let everyone know that I wasnt doing this regimen to the letter (didnt take the vitamins and such) and that could

be why it didnt work. But if you were to ask for my opinion a gentle cleanser would have worked better with this regimen. Hopes this regimen works for the rest of you!

cheers (although im not british)

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hey i had a question man... i cant use BP i have pretty sesitive skin and wat can i use in place of it.... and should i only wash 1ce a day? cuz my face gets red and is thgere a way oi can get the reddness to go away thx man

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Try using SA (Salycilic Acid) if you cant use BP, or a good thing might be tea trea oil, OR Mama lotion.

Research a couple of these out

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Unfortunately, the starter of this thread hasn't been active on these boards since '06, but I'm sure someone with some diet and nutritional knowledge (which is to say not me!) can jump in here and offer your answer!


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