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Posted 05 June 2006 - 09:56 PM

QUOTE(postfetalphase @ Jun 5 2006, 01:43 PM) View Post

What is ZNP?

I'm thinking I have some kind of folliculitis, as I posted a thread on it and didn't realize there already were so many.... I'm thinking mine may be fungal, atleast on my ass/ thighs, because it popped up after a month course of antibiotics, along with other known fungal infections (which I haven't been able to rid myself completely of, either. Augh!)

Is this stuff contagious?

znp is some medicineused for fungal and dermatitis conditions. also for dandruff. If you are fairly sure its fungal and want to try and kick it, avoid alcohol for a while,limit carbs (cuz they are sugary and feed fungus), avoid sugar, take the probiotic acidophilis, and try oil of oregano casules which are a natural antifungal. Continue for a couple of weeks after you feel like you might be better just to make sure. There ae alot of other natural antifungals but someone on this board told me that oil of oregeno penetrates tissues best. the other infections should be fairly treatable with vinegar and or sea salt and or tea tree oil soap if your a guy. If your talking female yeast infections google natural cure for yeast infection or home remedies. youd be amazed at how houusehold items can help keep cost down when treating large areas. good luck!
ive read that pityrosporum is contagious especially to those prone to it and so if you dont already, keep seperate towels, steam clean your car occassionally and so forth if not to protect those aroun you from getting it, this will allso help prevent you from reacting to somebody elses PR.(remember everyone has it one their skin surface and the difference is only in the reaction of the skin and number of organisms present.

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Posted 05 June 2006 - 10:06 PM

QUOTE(The Tominator @ Jun 3 2006, 11:11 AM) View Post

So far, I've been alternating between the ZNP and Nizoral. I was considering only using them a few times a week but, as you said, alternating will prevent my body from getting too used to it. I'll continue with my current regimen for a week or two and see how that goes. I do not have dandruff, so I've been using the Nizoral like a body gel. As for red marks, yes, I definitely get those, too. I've been using Tazorac for what seems like ages, and it really helps fade them (although it takes a while). I'm hoping that, in conjunction with the ZNP and Nizoral, it will keep my clear for good. No more autumn relapses!

In your experience, how long did it take to see results with the ZNP?

Id give it a month for sure.if younotice even slow improvement stick with it! Keep us updated.

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Posted 22 June 2006 - 10:37 AM

Woohoo! An entire thread on folliculitis! (Ok, it's not so great since that means we all have it, but at elast there are people to talk with about it).

I've had folliculitis on my legs (inner thighs), and possible the pubic area, for ages. I thought it was acne until a derm told me otherwise. He said theer's a prescription med for it, but I also, of course, have acne, and I couldn't be on two meds at once. I said I'd rather work on the acne on my face first than my legs. I do, however, have a bit of folliculits on my chin. It looks more like a general irritation than all of the little red spots all over my thighs.

I'm going to try the ZNP bar and the Nizoral (I foudnt hem on Amazon.com). I've never found anything that works for the crap on my legs, which has always affected how i approach relationships. I mean, who wants to see that? cry.gif
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Posted 22 June 2006 - 08:01 PM

hey rachael!
welcome to the club albeit not the best one to be invited to....
you are right though, it is nice to have someone to talk with about it. please keep us updated on your progress k? it seems people write on this thread and then disapear for a while. be aware that znp and nizoral are for fungal folliculitis so if your condition worsens it might be becuase you have a bacterial variety. are you taking antibiotics for acne? if you are then it would make sense that you have folliculitis of fungal variet. you could also try sea salt as its antibacterial and antifungal....
good luck and let us know how its going k?

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Posted 23 June 2006 - 09:05 AM

Thanks for the welcome Fruity! To answer one question, I was on an antibiotic, tetracycline, for about 2 years. It did sort of help my acne, but there was no change in the stuff on my legs. I've heard of the salt before. Are there any threads on how to use the salt? (like do you soak in it, rub it on, etc.)
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Posted 23 June 2006 - 01:31 PM

anyone know much about Tetrasil? it is touted as an option for folliculitis

http://www.tetrasil.com/

too hard to tell what is BS these days. might just to the derm.


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Posted 23 June 2006 - 02:26 PM

QUOTE(mr.mike @ Jun 23 2006, 02:31 PM) View Post

anyone know much about Tetrasil? it is touted as an option for folliculitis

http://www.tetrasil.com/

too hard to tell what is BS these days. might just to the derm.



It kind of looks fake. I mean, it's supposed to heal a whole bunch of stuff, skin probs that have a wide range of origins. My radar goes off on anyhting that claims to be a miracle cure-all.
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Posted 23 June 2006 - 06:19 PM

Sorry for my ignorance, but the ZNP soap sounds like an anti-bacterial soap (Im guessing ZNP is stronger?).

2 questions

1) For these suspicious funguses on skin (there are so many types of funguses), shouldn't anti bacterial soaps be effective also? (like Dial, Lever, etc.)

2) Can the ZNP soap be used as a regular soap even if the person doesn't have any fungus? I mean, just to be safe in the future or should it be used only when such conditions are present?




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Posted 30 June 2006 - 06:40 PM

QUOTE(Rachel12 @ Jun 23 2006, 10:05 AM) View Post

Thanks for the welcome Fruity! To answer one question, I was on an antibiotic, tetracycline, for about 2 years. It did sort of help my acne, but there was no change in the stuff on my legs. I've heard of the salt before. Are there any threads on how to use the salt? (like do you soak in it, rub it on, etc.)

there are threads on how to but im a computer idiot and dont know how to do that. just do a search k? good luck and keep us informed!

QUOTE(Life_Sucks @ Jun 23 2006, 07:19 PM) View Post

Sorry for my ignorance, but the ZNP soap sounds like an anti-bacterial soap (Im guessing ZNP is stronger?).

2 questions

1) For these suspicious funguses on skin (there are so many types of funguses), shouldn't anti bacterial soaps be effective also? (like Dial, Lever, etc.)

2) Can the ZNP soap be used as a regular soap even if the person doesn't have any fungus? I mean, just to be safe in the future or should it be used only when such conditions are present?

hi life sucks!
not really true of dial or other antibacterials for two reasons. one bacteria and fungi work very differently and also antibacterial soaps tend to make fungal folliculitis worse because both organisms occur normally on the skin and compete for space. if you already have a fungal problem wiping out the good bacteria on your skin allows the fungus to proliferate and thrive. make sense?
znp is more of an anti fungal soap used for pityrosporum of the scalp or body as well as seborhheic dermatitis. it is meant for dandruff but i was prescribed it for fungal folliculitis. it has the same medicine as head and shoulders but in 2% instead of 1% and wihtout all the emollients in shampoo, making it really good for skin use. you dont actually need a script to get it but she wrote it down and told me to get it.
as far as using it regularly, i would if it clears you because the moment you stop it will probably come back. but ont over use it because you dont want to get immune. just cut down to every other dya, then every third day and so on till it starts to come back. then you know your min dose. good luck.

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:42 AM

Hi there,

Cant belive i found this by mistake, its good to know that there is people that are kinda going through the same things as you.(im male by the way)

Well im quite recent to Pityrosporum Folliculitis it just occured one day, i had no cule to what it was neither did a doctor, eventually after months of going back and forth(in between the reacurring) of the spots i was reffered to a dermatolagist who eventually said it was Pityrosporum Folliculitis.

I was given a course of itraconazole a weeks course, i think(which works great) i did not have a problem for abt 2 months not even a itch, then all of a sudden a return, so again got some itraconazole which tried again and funny enough did not work as good as the first batch, trying to get itraconazole tho is a nightmare cuz doctors say you should not have to much and ITS NOT a long term antibiotic.

The problem i have is i get them on my shoulders down the side of my back and a few on my stomch but the weird thing is, one side of my body gets them slightly worse than the other?? eh? i only itch in certain places, like shoulders.

At first i did not have a clue what was causing it cuz it started to go and then all of a sudden it came back and i was thinking is it something im eating? so i watched what i eat, even drinked, i watched everything stopped using shower gels, you name it i changed it!

So currently all i have is nizoral which i put on the affected areas leave few minutes then wash of do that daily for a week and then every month. (i was told that by dermatolagist) was using itroconazole but there reluctant to give me more, saying its not a long term thing.

I think the biggest problem i have with it is that i know its there and it does affect my confidence,even more so especially if going out to pub/club, as for meeting people, thats why i guess i have kinda put of starting a relationship cuz when it comes down to it, there is this rash and i know its there so of course its gonna weigh on my mind.

Anyway if people have any info,stuff to help im all ears plz get intouch everything will be appreciated, also has anyone kinda been through the same kinda things? feel the same?

cheers

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:05 PM

hey woohoo,
You could try znp bar for everydaiy use in between nizoral. it helps alot for the itch and redness and helps healing. it is available without a prescription on the internet. i really like a sea salt recipe that was posted here by myself awhile ago(do a search for it) but right now im pregnant so i cant use the tea tree oil.(natural antifungal). it was working the best for anyting ive tried so far topically and i cant wait till im post partum and can go back to it. another small tip is to always shampoo with head and shoulders even if you dont have dandruff. its better for that to run off your skin than emollient shampoos. even better is tea tree shampoo so that the natural antifungal is running off you skin. (i prefer giovanni tea tree triple treat shampoo) its got tea tree,rosemary, peppermint (all great for acne and pityrosporum)and no emollients or pore cloggers. i buy mine from the vitamin shop but you can order it online im sure. theese things combined should do wonders for you. i used to be covered and then before i got pregnant and was doing all theese i was 99 percent clear. Look up my sea saly recipe cuz that made the biggest difference to total clearing. and if you dont already try to avoid conditioner or tip your head upside down when you do it. and never use lotion or emollient or antibacterial soap. welcome to the board.
Oh, another thing that most derms wont tell you but i have noticed a definate improvment in is stimulants and sugar intake. avoid sugar and caffeine whenever possible and drink lots of water with a lemon slice squeezed in.

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Posted 08 July 2006 - 03:27 PM

Now, the ketoconazole.... I picked up some bottles of nizoral, and I also coincidentally got a ketoconazole 2% prescription cream recently for uses on other issues I am having... Reading up on ketoconazole I'm a little confused... does ketoconazole kill fungus itself, or just cut down on oil production?

I've used the nizoral a few times and it SEEMS to be helping although I can't say because I haven't been using it consistantly. I also find it annoying to stand in the shower for 10 minutes with nothing to do....

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 07:50 AM

postfetalphase, you could rub the nizoral in before getting into the shower.
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Posted 10 July 2006 - 03:26 PM

Nizoral

There are many thoughts on what causes dandruff. There is however, only one real answer. It is now known that dandruff is primarily caused by a fungus known as Pityrosporum ovale (P. ovale). Scientists may also call it malassezia furfur.

Before you recoil in disbelief, you should know that this fungus is a naturally occurring organism found on everybody’s scalp and in most cases poses no problem at all.

However, under certain circumstances, P. Ovale can proliferate, irritating the scalp and depleting it of it’s nutrients. When this occurs, dead cells are shed from the scalp faster – flaking and itching are the result.

This condition is known as dandruff.

What makes Nizoral unsurpassed as a dandruff treatment?

Put simply, Nizoral treats the cause of dandruff – excess of P. ovale found on your scalp. Whilst some other treatments are busy treating only the symptoms, Nizoral goes to work on the cause.

In fact, the active ingredient in Nizoral has been clinically proven to be your best defence against P. Ovale. This gentle, active ingredient also binds to the natural protein in your hair called keratin. So it keeps working for days after you have stepped out of the shower.

The importance of binding with keratin.

Most active ingredients found in other dandruff shampoos lack the ability to bind with the keratin found in your hair. Unfortunately, this means that when rinsing the shampoo out the active ingredient is also going down the drain.

Even worse, this allows the P.Ovale to re-colonise the scalp. That is why when using these shampoos you need to wash your hair on a daily basis.

Thankfully, Nizoral has a strong affinity for keratin and actually binds with the scalp and hair shafts. Therefore, you only have to use Nizoral twice a week. Continued use just twice a week will keep dandruff from returning.

The dandruff shampoo that really shines.

Nizoral really is a gentle giant. It’s tough on the cause of dandruff, yet leaves your hair looking the way you want it to look. More importantly, it helps keep your hair healthy!
Dandruff is caused by micro-organism called pityrosporum-ovle which are present in every body's scalp. Symptoms of dandruff get aggravated when exposed to dust, UV light, harsh chemical based shampoo, hair dyes etc., this results in increase in number of microbes which causes unhealthy residue over the scalp which leads to dandruff, which is the cause of unhealthy scalp results in unhealthy, lifeless hair and may result in excessive loss of hair too.

Contrary to popular notions, dandruff is usually a result of too much oiliness of the skin and scalp rather than dryness. While mild dandruff may be caused by overactive oil glands, recent evidence suggests that the more severe dandruff associated with seborrheic dermatitis may be caused by an overabundance of Pityrosporum ovale, a yeast-like organism found on healthy scalp in low numbers. With the increased scaling and oiliness of seborrheic dermatitis, these yeast organisms thrive and multiply, aggravating inflammation and scaling.

Seasonal changes, stress, and certain diseases seem to affect seborrheic dermatitis. The cold, dry air of fall and winter often triggers a flare-up. Emotional stress can worsen the condition as well. Skin cells that grow and die off too fast are the cause of dandruff, but doctors do not know why this happens. Some people with severe flaking have overactive sebaceous glands (whose task is to lubricate the skin with oils); others have an elevated level of the fungus Pityrosporum ovale, which is present in most people but to excess in dandruff sufferers. Other causative factors include family history, food allergies, excessive sweating, use of alkaline soaps, yeast infections, and stress. Even the season of the year can contribute to the problem: Cold, dry winters are notorious for bringing on dandruff or making it worse.

If dandruff flakes are greasy and yellow, the probable cause is the skin condition known as seborrheic dermatitis; dry, thick lesions consisting of large, silvery scales may be traced to the less common psoriasis of the scalp. These forms of dandruff—as well as the run-of-the-mill variety—become a hazard only if you scratch to the point of causing breaks in the skin, which can place you at greater risk for infections, particularly from staph and strep bacteria.





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Posted 11 July 2006 - 10:53 AM

Alright, I got my nizoral and znp bar in the mail. I tried it last night on one leg before my shower. I have bad folliculitis on my thighs (like, even the derm I used to see said it was bad), and nothing's ever made a difference. I'll keep y'all up to date. smile.gif
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Posted 11 July 2006 - 05:57 PM

good luck rachel!i hope this summer is the one!

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 08:31 PM

QUOTE(Rachel12 @ Jul 11 2006, 12:53 PM) View Post

Alright, I got my nizoral and znp bar in the mail. I tried it last night on one leg before my shower. I have bad folliculitis on my thighs (like, even the derm I used to see said it was bad), and nothing's ever made a difference. I'll keep y'all up to date. smile.gif


Where did you order your Nizoral and ZNP from? Was the Nizoral 2%? Let me know. I am ready to order mine as well and the fact that your DID arrive in the mail is a good sign! smile.gif Thanks

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 06:07 AM

Has anyone here gotten prescription ketoconazole cream for their folliculitis?

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Posted 12 July 2006 - 07:57 AM

tntutor, I got it from amazon.com. I don't know what percent it is offhand, sinc eI'm at work now. I don't recall there being ones with different percents.
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Posted 17 July 2006 - 06:24 PM

I may have this, can I see some pictures?



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