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Hey everyone. I've been doing a lot of thinking about what could be causing my acne, and I started realizing it's strange that I have EXTREMELY dry skin on the rest of my body (literally, my hands crack!) and yet my face still breaks out. Well, I got to thinking.... most of the females in my family have thyroid problems. I looked up the symptoms of hypothyroidism and many of them fit me. Then I found this article, which peaked my interest even more:

http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/news12-hypothyroidism.html

Mainly because I have always had some problems with ovarian cysts...

So do any of you here know anything about this? You or your family have any experience with having the thyroid treated, and acne finally getting under control?

I am also really wondering, could I still be hypothyroid even if I am not at all overweight? I am very physically fit and don't feel like it's very difficult for me to lose weight but I also have several of the other symptoms of hypothyroidism. I think I may need to make an appointment with an endocrinologist, even though they will probably think I'm crazy! If I have it, it is probably fairly mild but I truly do believe that this acne is being caused by some kind of malfunction in my system....

Please let me know if you guys have any thoughts! Thank you :angel:

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Hi Jamie Lynn!

I've been reading about hypothyroid too, as I think I may have it as a result of being a soy junkie for too many years. I'm like you in that I'm not overweight, but I do have a couple of the other symptoms - always cold, especially cold extremeties. I also have an ovarian cyst....some other stuff I read and can't remember offhand. I did read in a few places that acne can be one of the many symptoms.

There is a simple self test you can do which can help you determine if you MAY be hypo. It just involves taking your temperature for several days and averaging them. I know there is a protocol outlined on askshelley.com in the FAQ, and I've seen others on the web. My naturopath had me do it and I'm like a 1/2 a degree below normal on avg, so that's really borderline. I might ask to get tested just to make sure.

I'm going to see my naturopath again next week, so I'm going to ask her some more about it. I'll post anything else she has to say.

In the meantime, maybe Sweetjade has something to add?

I just remembered another member mentioning something about her thyroid being key in her acne.. I think her name is Ebey? I can't remember if she was hypo or hyper.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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I do have hypothyroidism..

I know that alot of people that have it, usually start out without being overweight. Before they found out I had it, I was usually a little underweight. Then all of a sudden I gained alot of weight. I went from 120 lbs. to in a year 175 lbs.

Anyways, It does cause dry skin.

If you want to know for sure, its pretty simple for your doctor to test for it. All they need to do is draw blood and run labs... you'll have to fast before you get your blood drawn. I would suggest you talk to your doctor asap if you think you have it. The sooner your catch it, the better; you can get in control before it gets out of control.

You should especially get it checked if it runs in your family. Both my mother and her mother have it. and now so do I.

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Thanks Laurent,

I'm definitely going to talk to my naturopath about it.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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It is known that high or low amount of iodine intake can also lead to hypothyroidism. There is still a debate on the physiologically required daily need of iodine. There must be differences in iodine sensitivity among people.

Current estimates of daily iodine intake in Canada and the USA are substantially above physiological need - in the range of 460 µg/day among 9-16-year-old children, to greater than 1 mg among as many us 10-20 % of adults

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Hi, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid 3 yrs. ago and I have always been underweight. Unfortunately, thyroid meds did not improve my acne or my other symptoms at all and I am now off of the meds. I am currently using natural progesterone cream to address this issue and it seems to be helping. I have read the estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can produce hypothyroid symptoms, so using the cream before resorting to meds can sometimes help if this is the problem.

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Hi, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid 3 yrs. ago and I have always been underweight. Unfortunately, thyroid meds did not improve my acne or my other symptoms at all and I am now off of the meds. I am currently using natural progesterone cream to address this issue and it seems to be helping. I have read the estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can produce hypothyroid symptoms, so using the cream before resorting to meds can sometimes help if this is the problem.

Interesting! The more I read about this, the more I find it applies to me. I have excess estrogen symptoms: ovarian cyst, spotting between periods, painful periods. My ND put me on natural progesterone when I told her about the spotting. It's a pill that you take sublingually, not the cream, but it's not synthetic.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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Hi, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid 3 yrs. ago and I have always been underweight. Unfortunately, thyroid meds did not improve my acne or my other symptoms at all and I am now off of the meds. I am currently using natural progesterone cream to address this issue and it seems to be helping. I have read the estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can produce hypothyroid symptoms, so using the cream before resorting to meds can sometimes help if this is the problem.

Interesting! The more I read about this, the more I find it applies to me. I have excess estrogen symptoms: ovarian cyst, spotting between periods, painful periods. My ND put me on natural progesterone when I told her about the spotting. It's a pill that you take sublingually, not the cream, but it's not synthetic.

Does it seem to be working for you?

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I posted a couple weeks back about this but didnt get many answers. I recently went to the doctor and got a blood test taken and found out I have hyperthrroidism, which is pretty much the opposite of yours. Overactive thryoid. I really think it is linked to my acne. Something with the use and productivity of excess hormones. Dont know if same applies to hypo. I have an appointment later this month, hopefully I'll get some pills to cure me up. I'll try and post how everything goes and if I notice a difference in my acne.

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Hi, I was diagnosed as hypothyroid 3 yrs. ago and I have always been underweight. Unfortunately, thyroid meds did not improve my acne or my other symptoms at all and I am now off of the meds. I am currently using natural progesterone cream to address this issue and it seems to be helping. I have read the estrogen dominance/progesterone deficiency can produce hypothyroid symptoms, so using the cream before resorting to meds can sometimes help if this is the problem.

Interesting! The more I read about this, the more I find it applies to me. I have excess estrogen symptoms: ovarian cyst, spotting between periods, painful periods. My ND put me on natural progesterone when I told her about the spotting. It's a pill that you take sublingually, not the cream, but it's not synthetic.

CJB,

Your doctor doesn't think you are PCO (Polycystic Ovarian...Syndrome)? You were as sensitive to sugar and certain insulin spiking foods before you started cleansing right? Of course, I've heard that there are people who are atypical for Hypothyroidism, PCOS, IR, etc that are underweight so one shouldn't assume that just because they are it means they don't have a hormone/metabolic disorder (some doctors do this to their patients).

JaimeLynn,

Other than what I mentioned to CJB, the only thing I can add is that some people don't test postive for hypothyroidism the traditional way, thus the temperature test was born (?). However from what I'm aware of, someone that is Hypothyroid should be more so acne prone than someone that is Hyperthyroid because you have high amounts of subclinical Inflammation and Low amounts of Sex Hormone Binding Globulin (reduced in the presence of Insulin or Androgen) meaning you may have less Estrogen, as a result of having low T3 levels. This seems to be further supported by the fact that the only members I've "met" on these acne boards with a thyroid probelm were hypothyroid. Unfortunately no, medication to treat this doesn't always help so there may be some additional imbalances going on for some, or they may also need to pay more attention to their diet (less consumption of improperly prepared goitrogenic foods).

Although, to be fair and honest, reading the symptom lists of various hormonal disorders can make one think they have several hormonal/metabolic disorders! Signs and symptoms can be so similar that the best way to find out is to see an Endocrinologist like you are thinking of doing. Remember, you don't have to fit the profile/symptom list 100%, especially if it's a syndrome. So if you have any family members with Cholesterol, Diabetes, Digestive, Neurological, Menstrual, Hormonal Problems, etc or if you do then you want to provide a list of your health/hormonal problems as well as those of your family members so that your doctor can start ruling out possible disorders and get you tested to hopefully rule out more (that's their goal or our goal is to FIND a diagnosis and get treated for it) hormonal or metabolic disorders.

http://www.hormone.org/learn/thyroid.html

http://www.hormone.org/learn/pcos.html

http://www.hormone.org/resources/fact_sheets/cah.htm (there's a Late Onset Stage known as LOCCAH or NCCAH and sometimes it gets confused with PCOS)

Hope this helped some!


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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Does it seem to be working for you?

I've just started taking it this month, so I'm not sure yet.

Sweetjade,

The dr. didn't mention anything about PCOS. If anything, she thought I MAY have endometriosis, but is pretty sure I don't. (I hope not!) The ultrasound only showed one cyst, and as far as I know, I've never had any others. Plus, I don't have any of the other PCOS symptoms - except acne.

I am DEFINITELY sensitive to sugar. I'm still sensitve to it, even after some cleansing.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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thank you for the responses you guys... SweetJade, you are very informative! I guess the only way I'll know is to go to the endocrinologist so I need to make an appt soon. I already know that as far as the temperature test goes, I am probably hypothyroid. My temp. has always been below 98.6 but i didn't know that it was associated with thyroid problems. It would sure be nice if taking thyroid meds could be the answer to my acne, but I won't set my hopes on it...

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I highly recommend to read the articles of Ray Peat. He's a well known health writer and hormone-expert. Estrogen dominance and hypothyroidism are his specialties. He made his PhD about progesterone in 1972 and researched this topics ever since. In his articles, he makes a strong case against the consumption of polyunsaturated vegetable oils, as they suppress the thyroid.

http://raypeat.com/articles/

The enzymes which break down proteins are inhibited by unsaturated fats, and these enzymes are needed not only for digestion, but also for production of thyroid hormones, clot removal, immunity, and the general adaptability of cells. The risks of abnormal blood clotting, inflammation, immune deficiency, shock, aging, obesity, and cancer are increased. Thyroid and progesterone are decreased. Since the unsaturated oils block protein digestion in the stomach, we can be malnourished even while "eating well."

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/unsaturated-oils.shtml

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Hi, I am hypothyroid as well....I am on synthroid and have been for 4 yrs. Yes, my acne got worse when I was diagnosed but whether there is a link to that...who knows? I just started accutane because I can't stand the acne anymore. I am fearing fatigue caused by the Accutane as typical of Hypo's, we are always tired!! Anyway, I am hoping for the best and if I am really lucky the change in my diet will help me lose a few of these extra pounds!!! (wishful thinking!)

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i get the same thing. i have mild acne yet my hands crack and i get small cuts. i have hypothyroidism and polycystic ovarian syndrome. i started taking meds for my hypothyroidism but i havent started my treatment for my pcos. im hoping that will help me clear my mild acne.

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Just thought I'd throw this out. I have had my thyroid tested twice and both times it was well within normal levels. But that is not to say an abnormal acting thyroid could not affect your skin.

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Hey everyone. I've been doing a lot of thinking about what could be causing my acne, and I started realizing it's strange that I have EXTREMELY dry skin on the rest of my body (literally, my hands crack!) and yet my face still breaks out. Well, I got to thinking.... most of the females in my family have thyroid problems. I looked up the symptoms of hypothyroidism and many of them fit me. Then I found this article, which peaked my interest even more:

http://www.ovarian-cysts-pcos.com/news12-hypothyroidism.html

Mainly because I have always had some problems with ovarian cysts...

So do any of you here know anything about this? You or your family have any experience with having the thyroid treated, and acne finally getting under control?

I am also really wondering, could I still be hypothyroid even if I am not at all overweight? I am very physically fit and don't feel like it's very difficult for me to lose weight but I also have several of the other symptoms of hypothyroidism. I think I may need to make an appointment with an endocrinologist, even though they will probably think I'm crazy! If I have it, it is probably fairly mild but I truly do believe that this acne is being caused by some kind of malfunction in my system....

Please let me know if you guys have any thoughts! Thank you :angel:

I thought I had it too because I fit under a lot of the symptoms and my mom was diagnosed with it too. When I had my blood drawn though, the results came back negative.


My regimen changed (starting 5/16/09) and I am not a happy camper

AM regimen

Wash face and chest with Kaiser 5% bp wash

Moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Apply make up, blush, finishing powder, MAC moisture cover to dark underyeye circles

Pop a doxycycline

PM regimen

Remove make up with desert esscence jojoba oil using cotton balls

starting evening of May 28, 2009, I wash my face with Face Reality Skincare Sensitive Skin Gel Cleanser at night time only

Apply Differin to face and chest

Wait to dry and moisturize with face reality skincare cranberry cream

Apply Estee Lauder Future Perfect Eye Cream

Pop a doxycycline

Foundation- MAC Studio Tech Foundation in NC20 or MAC Studio Sculpt Foundation in NW15, apply a MAC blush, apply MAC prep and prime finishing powder

Anyone who has a problem zit thats having a hard time healing, try this and let me know if it helped you. Mix one tablespoon of sea salt with three tablespoons of warm water, apply to a cotton ball or a paper towel. Apply to the zit for ten to fifteen minutes, and then wash it off.


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bump!

I think it's important for people to take another look at hypothyroidism, if they've tried everything else acne-wise and it isn't helping. Paba's post here in particular about Dr. Raymond Peat is a really good post to read thoroughly.

Here are some more links on the correlation with acne/hyPOthyroidism (not hyPERthyroidism.)

Why Polyunsaturated Fats Are Bad for the Thyroid (and depletes vitamin E) By Dr. Broda O. Barnes

Unrecognized Symptoms in Hypothyroidism by G. K. WHARTON, M.B., M.S.(MED.), F.A.C.P.

Symptoms of Hypothyroidism

Why Tests for Hypothyroidism Are Not Always Accurate

I'd also like to mention that even if you've tested "normal," for your thyroid gland, that doesn't mean much at all. Millions of people go undiagnosed; the standard blood serum panel for thyroid is not sensitive enough unless you have a SEVERE thyroid condition (yet a milder thyroid condition is enough to throw things out of whack and give you acne as well as other health problems.) The last link actually explains that a test for Anemia (red and white blood cell counts,) is actually more telling as to whether or not you have a hypothyroid problem.

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i was diagnosed with hypothyroidism at birth and i just today learned that hypothyroidism can cause acne. i've had acne for almost four years, i have an endocrine appointment soon and i'm going to talk to them about it.

i think a dosage of my medication will help.

also, people with hypothyroidism are mostly overweight.

i've always been under weight or at a healthy weight.

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i'm fascinated by this whole topic; i recently visited with an endocrinologist and initial test results revealed that my acne is due to either (1) insulin intolerance or (2) hypothyroidism. i underwent 3 hours of more in depth testing yesterday to confirm which of the two it is. i'll get results nov. 2

i too am quite thin so the idea of hypothyroidism baffles me...but at this point, i'll take whatever diagnosis i can get! i just want treatment! anyone out there actually see acne IMPROVE after being on hypothyroidism meds?

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i'm fascinated by this whole topic; i recently visited with an endocrinologist and initial test results revealed that my acne is due to either (1) insulin intolerance or (2) hypothyroidism. i underwent 3 hours of more in depth testing yesterday to confirm which of the two it is. i'll get results nov. 2

i too am quite thin so the idea of hypothyroidism baffles me...but at this point, i'll take whatever diagnosis i can get! i just want treatment! anyone out there actually see acne IMPROVE after being on hypothyroidism meds?

I have hyperthyroidism and i got a log of it here with the same concerns as if its related to acne or not:

http://www.acne.org/messageboard/endocrino...02#entry2730202


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Can guys get PCOS?


Prisoner on Acne.org now lmaooooo peace out.


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Hi Jamie Lynn!

I've been reading about hypothyroid too, as I think I may have it as a result of being a soy junkie for too many years. I'm like you in that I'm not overweight, but I do have a couple of the other symptoms - always cold, especially cold extremeties. I also have an ovarian cyst....some other stuff I read and can't remember offhand. I did read in a few places that acne can be one of the many symptoms.

There is a simple self test you can do which can help you determine if you MAY be hypo. It just involves taking your temperature for several days and averaging them. I know there is a protocol outlined on askshelley.com in the FAQ, and I've seen others on the web. My naturopath had me do it and I'm like a 1/2 a degree below normal on avg, so that's really borderline. I might ask to get tested just to make sure.

I'm going to see my naturopath again next week, so I'm going to ask her some more about it. I'll post anything else she has to say.

In the meantime, maybe Sweetjade has something to add?

I just remembered another member mentioning something about her thyroid being key in her acne.. I think her name is Ebey? I can't remember if she was hypo or hyper.

You can't test for hypothyroidism just by taking your temperature for a few days in a row and averaging them together. You need blood work done.

As for the body temperature: my body temp even after being up all day long is always over a degree lower than the "norm" for people. My normal temp is around 97.4

I do have hypothyroidism..

I know that alot of people that have it, usually start out without being overweight. Before they found out I had it, I was usually a little underweight. Then all of a sudden I gained alot of weight. I went from 120 lbs. to in a year 175 lbs.

Anyways, It does cause dry skin.

If you want to know for sure, its pretty simple for your doctor to test for it. All they need to do is draw blood and run labs... you'll have to fast before you get your blood drawn. I would suggest you talk to your doctor asap if you think you have it. The sooner your catch it, the better; you can get in control before it gets out of control.

You should especially get it checked if it runs in your family. Both my mother and her mother have it. and now so do I.

:)

Dry skin, yes it's a curse!! I gained quite a bit of weight really fast as well..it's rather depressing.

It is known that high or low amount of iodine intake can also lead to hypothyroidism. There is still a debate on the physiologically required daily need of iodine. There must be differences in iodine sensitivity among people.

Current estimates of daily iodine intake in Canada and the USA are substantially above physiological need - in the range of 460 µg/day among 9-16-year-old children, to greater than 1 mg among as many us 10-20 % of adults

Get Rid of the Iodine, Get Rid of the Hypothyroidism? One Japanese study looked at the frequency of iodine-induced reversiblehypothyroidism. This type of hypothyroidism is not rare, and particularly in Japan, where iodine-rich seaweed is freqeuently eaten.
source:

And the acne link is already known:

Teenage Acne May Be Related to Milk's Iodine Content: The link between increased dairy consumption and teenage acne may be partly explained by the high iodine content in milk, according to a New York researcher.
source:

Hypothyroidism has more causes than just being a soy junkie or iodine deficiency. The most common cause of Hypothyroidism is actually Hashimoto's thyroiditis (an autoimmune condition) and most people don't know they have it unless they are tested for the antibodies. I had been battling borderline hypothyroidism on lab results for over 5 years before i was finally able to get a referral to an endocrinologist. While, yes, my tsh was barely over 5, my antibodies were almost up to 300 which explained why i was having such severe symptoms despite my levels not being too elevated. It's important to find out WHY you have hypothyroidism and not just let 1 doctor guess as to why you have it.....it's for your benefit!!

Can guys get PCOS?

No: PCOS - polycystic ovarian syndrome. So unless you have ovaries you can't get it

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And i forgot to add that when my tsh levels are changing, which they constantly are because of the autoimmune issue making my thyroid spurt into "normal mode" just to sputter out a few weeks later....My acne flares up really bad when I need my meds to be increased and that's sadly how I know to go see my doctor for testing to change my meds.

It took me years to figure out why i had such horrible acne for so long and then I got my hypothyroid diagnosis. For women: Yaz actually helped me for a long time. But now i have Mirena so I don't have the birth control pill to fight off the acne. Mirena doesn't prevent acne....my dermatologist actually said it promotes it but it isn't any worse than before I was on Yaz so I'm not convinced at all that Mirena is causing the acne I have now. I know I need a higher dosage of levothyroxine.

anyway..I hope my input helps someone :-)

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I was diagnosed with thyroiditis back in october by my endo. He explained that my thryoiditis would go through a hyper to hypo cycle before leveling out to normal. I was hyper until about janurary then it started to become normal, i just got back last week and now i am hypothyroid as he expected. My TSH went from .03 (Hyper) to a whopping 9.75 (hypo). In 2 months which was pretty crazy i thought. He said that probably in another 2-3 months i should be back to normal levels again and hopefully for good.

I had asked about the acne thryroid connection and he told me that is not probably related at all, so i dont know. My hands to get very dry and crack between fingers in i do not constantly keep them moisturized and the corners of my mouth stay dry too which i get acne at as well sometimes. So idk i will be glad when it levels out that way i can really tell if its at all related to my hormonal acne or not.


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