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Posted 25 November 2005 - 07:46 AM

I strongly advise you not to use Demodex Solutions who sell ZZ Cream and Xin Cream amongst others.
This company is selling products whose main ingredients are available in USA & Europe far cheaper with FDA approval and consumer rights measures in place. The secret ingredients of ZZ Cream could be harmful.
Chinese medicine can be dangerous, there have been cases of ingredients permanently damaging health...
http://news.bbc.co.u...lth/4429414.stm
China has pollution and contamination problems so even if the drugs are made there in good faith and with good will they can still be contaminated with mercury, lead etc
This company is also selling a prescription only drug METRONIDAZOLE. It is prescription only for good reason, it should be used under medical supervision, not ordered over the Internet and used like aspirin.
This company also offers no refunds.
Do yourself a favor and get your meds from a reliable and reputable source, one that doesnt have to resort to spamming websites like this, and where necessary get your meds under medical supervison.

Demodex & P Acne proliferation may be a symptom of skin disorders but they are not the cause.
It makes great marketing to scare people into thinking they have things crawling on them that need getting rid of.
These mites and P Acnes occur on most, if not all people.

Dan warns about buying drugs on net without rx this as well...
http://www.acne.org/...showtopic=68942
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Buying drugs on Internet without Rx, Why it's a bad idea

If you want or need an acne prescription, see a doctor and get it legally. If you get prescriptions illegally online you could easily hurt yourself or waste your money.

- Independent studies have been performed on the sale of Internet-bought prescriptions. Often the prescription contains no active ingredient, little active ingredient, or in a worst case scenario toxic amounts of active ingredient.

- Drugs bought without a prescription can actually be a completely different compound from what the buyer intends.

Acne.org prohibits the illegal trade of any form of drug or prescription drug. If you see a post from someone selling a prescription, please report it immediately. Thanks.




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Posted 25 November 2005 - 08:08 AM

secret ingredients in the zz cream = dangerous herbs?

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 08:46 AM

LOL

ADVISE: BEWARE OF ONLINE SCARE TACTICS

Now, if you are looking for your acne to clear up especially after 1,5,10,20, 25, years of pure suffering then ZZ Cream is the prouduct you should use. Other people such as this topic starter can continue with BP, antibiotics, Accutane and the countless OTC products available so they can also in turn forever visit an online acne board.

ZZ Cream, Xin Fumaling Cream and Facedoctorx soap have worked wonders and CURED many people myself included. Many from the acne.org are now becoming clear for the first time and loving it.

Take Care

P.S. another LOL is truly needed here.




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Posted 25 November 2005 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE(papines @ Nov 25 2005, 02:46 PM) View Post

LOL

ADVISE: BEWARE OF ONLINE SCARE TACTICS

Now, if you are looking for your acne to clear up especially after 1,5,10,20, 25, years of pure suffering then ZZ Cream is the prouduct you should use. Other people such as this topic starter can continue with BP, antibiotics, Accutane and the countless OTC products available so they can also in turn forever visit an online acne board.

ZZ Cream, Xin Fumaling Cream and Facedoctorx soap have worked wonders and CURED many people myself included. Many from the acne.org are now becoming clear for the first time and loving it.

Take Care

P.S. another LOL is truly needed here.


YOU HAVE JUST RECOMMENDED XIN CREAM A PRESCRIPTION DRUG
YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO DAN!


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Posted 25 November 2005 - 08:57 AM

QUOTE(papines @ Nov 25 2005, 02:46 PM) View Post

LOL

ADVISE: BEWARE OF ONLINE SCARE TACTICS

Now, if you are looking for your acne to clear up especially after 1,5,10,20, 25, years of pure suffering then ZZ Cream is the prouduct you should use. Other people such as this topic starter can continue with BP, antibiotics, Accutane and the countless OTC products available so they can also in turn forever visit an online acne board.

ZZ Cream, Xin Fumaling Cream and Facedoctorx soap have worked wonders and CURED many people myself included. Many from the acne.org are now becoming clear for the first time and loving it.

Take Care

P.S. another LOL is truly needed here.



I would trust the product if it listed out the "secret" ingredients, they could be poop, poison, or things that we won't know.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 09:20 AM



I would like to read people's reports from people who have truly become 100% clear with these products. All I have seen is people saying yay it is working, yet they are not totally clear. And that happens with a lot of medications people use on these boards and when there is a lot of hype about it. And I have posted on their message boards and asked if using zinc oxide and sulfur would do the same thing, and they said no because they have "secret" ingredients that really makes the cremes work...and I am like ok...If anyone is trying to make money off of people it is them.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 09:35 AM

HI.

I have friends that work for health canada. DO you know that the majority of international product shipments (in particular those from the orient) can conatain potnetially leathal contents that are not often listed on the product labels?

Scientists are doing tests currently...in one drug they found a dead virus....A FUCKING VIRUS!

they're cracking down and taking these assholes to court.

your product could be next papines. watch it.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 10:10 AM

LOL, everyone notice how it is always the same cast of characters involved in this propaganda?

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 10:12 AM


yup. and you're their ringleader!

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 11:02 AM

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 11:19 AM

QUOTE(zigzag @ Nov 25 2005, 05:02 PM) View Post

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.


It worked so well, you are now on accutane wacko.gif ?

You should not be recommending ZZ Cream, it's unregulated and there is the possibility it could irreversably damage your health!


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Posted 25 November 2005 - 11:42 AM

QUOTE(RedSeven @ Nov 25 2005, 10:19 AM) View Post

QUOTE(zigzag @ Nov 25 2005, 05:02 PM) View Post

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.


It worked so well, you are now on accutane wacko.gif ?

You should not be recommending ZZ Cream, an unregulated and possibly dangerous product!



Do you have anything constructive to say other than bashing Chinese products particularly the Demodex cream?

As you said you are 100% clear and you still stay on the board doing silly,silly, childish things........PITY!!!

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE(zigzag @ Nov 25 2005, 10:02 AM) View Post

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.


ZigZag, thanks for your response

I know a lot of people (from the Demodex forum) reported dry skin after using the ZZ cream. Ever since my first day of using ZZ cream at night, I also used Xin cream in the morning and it moisturises . I haven't experienced dry skin so far and I am on my 14-15 days . ON the other hand, I don't feel oily in the afternoon as, in the past, I have to dab my face with tissues all the time .

I rememeber some people on the D. forum suggested using emu oil together with ZZ cream or aloe vera gel with ZZ cream and they have seen good results. I haven't tried this yet cause I have not felt any dryness . If later, after prolong use, I feel dry, I will use the method suggested . Right now, I still haven't seen the intial purging stage, I am expecting it anytime. And all my red marks are fading nicely!!! My life is back!!! Thanks Papines!!!!

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE(sick of acne @ Nov 25 2005, 05:42 PM) View Post

QUOTE(RedSeven @ Nov 25 2005, 10:19 AM) View Post

QUOTE(zigzag @ Nov 25 2005, 05:02 PM) View Post

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.


It worked so well, you are now on accutane wacko.gif ?

You should not be recommending ZZ Cream, an unregulated and possibly dangerous product!



Do you have anything constructive to say other than bashing Chinese products particularly the Demodex cream?

As you said you are 100% clear and you still stay on the board doing silly,silly, childish things........PITY!!!


Yeah I've got something constructive to say...
If you continue to encourage people to buy prescripton drugs over the Internet or buy unregulated meds which may contain possibly life theatening 'Secret' ingredients, I will ask for you to be banned!


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Posted 25 November 2005 - 12:34 PM



and hey if that doesn't work. i'm bored. i'll just harass them back.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 01:04 PM

I do agree that most chinese herbs and medicines are banned in most countries. Example here in Canada Toronto they are trying to ban a pill called Magarite which is for acne and beauty of the skin. It's sold very cheaply, but the thing is the FDA just discovered that there is an overload of mercury and magnesium metals in it that it can be very harmful taken over a period of time.

So be weary of most of the chinese medicines, but other than that i think they work!!

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE(RedSeven @ Nov 25 2005, 11:32 AM) View Post

QUOTE(sick of acne @ Nov 25 2005, 05:42 PM) View Post

QUOTE(RedSeven @ Nov 25 2005, 10:19 AM) View Post

QUOTE(zigzag @ Nov 25 2005, 05:02 PM) View Post

Their products are really good and the guy (Walter) is a nice helpful guy. I've used their products for over a year and a half and it helped me greatly in controlling my acne, sure I was not always 100% clear, but it was as close as anything has gotten me to being clear. I am taking low-dose accutane now to finish it off for good (but I am virtually clear as I write this anyway). My only complaints about DS cream are that it tends to dry my skin a lot and the ZZ cream is very difficult to wash off the face completely. Their products definitely do work and MANY people are having great success and zero side effects (except for as I mentioned, perhaps dry skin).

PS. I do not whatsoever have any vested interest in DS. Just wanted to make this post, because yes, their products do deserve credit.

Also I've seen a lot of posts from people troubled by millia (tiny bumps on the skin), this product is THE solution for that from my experience.


It worked so well, you are now on accutane wacko.gif ?

You should not be recommending ZZ Cream, an unregulated and possibly dangerous product!



Do you have anything constructive to say other than bashing Chinese products particularly the Demodex cream?

As you said you are 100% clear and you still stay on the board doing silly,silly, childish things........PITY!!!


Yeah I've got something constructive to say...
If you continue to encourage people to buy prescripton drugs over the Internet or buy unregulated meds which may contain possibly life theatening 'Secret' ingredients, I will ask for you to be banned!


Why do I care I get banned by the board?????? If I can have my skin back, I will never have to visit this board again . I am sure I won't waste my time on this acne thing again which have lingered with me for so many years! Now , my life is back, I rather go outside , have fun with my friends than staying home ,sitting in front of the computer, searching over the OTC Medication board!!!!

Btw, what makes you think that the cream is not regulated . They are patented too. Just because you have never heard of the cream and some Chinese medicine have been banned before, than you come to the ALLLLLLL Chinese medcine are bad. Vioxx, Celebrax, Viagara. are they safe too???

QUOTE(chia1 @ Nov 25 2005, 07:57 AM) View Post

QUOTE(papines @ Nov 25 2005, 02:46 PM) View Post

LOL

ADVISE: BEWARE OF ONLINE SCARE TACTICS

Now, if you are looking for your acne to clear up especially after 1,5,10,20, 25, years of pure suffering then ZZ Cream is the prouduct you should use. Other people such as this topic starter can continue with BP, antibiotics, Accutane and the countless OTC products available so they can also in turn forever visit an online acne board.

ZZ Cream, Xin Fumaling Cream and Facedoctorx soap have worked wonders and CURED many people myself included. Many from the acne.org are now becoming clear for the first time and loving it.

Take Care

P.S. another LOL is truly needed here.



I would trust the product if it listed out the "secret" ingredients, they could be poop, poison, or things that we won't know.



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Posted 25 November 2005 - 01:38 PM

Grace, Don't spend too much time on these people and their contrived lies. Eventually, no matter how hard they try, RESULTS will be the only thing people follow.





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Posted 25 November 2005 - 01:43 PM

QUOTE(chia1 @ Nov 25 2005, 07:08 AM) View Post

secret ingredients in the zz cream = dangerous herbs?


If interested, please go to www.ynzzzy.com and look for the fact. Some of the information there are in English.They have patent no. and I think they have to disclose the secret ingredients to the govt. due to pirates before they get approved.

or you can go to http://www.ynzzzy.co...ease/review.asp?
or http://www.ynzzzy.co...eview.asp?id=13

I found out this website when I got my cream and they were on the instruction sheet inside the box. Before that, I got information from the Demodex solutions website.

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Posted 25 November 2005 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE(papines @ Nov 25 2005, 12:38 PM) View Post

Grace, Don't spend too much time on these people and their contrived lies. Eventually, no matter how hard they try, RESULTS will be the only thing people follow.


Papines

I am leaving, I am not coming back anymore. We are not getting referral fees?????

Why do we care if people use this cream or get cured or not? The most important thing is now I am satisfied with my improvements and my battered 47 -year-old body has come back to life!!!!!And that is what it matters!! I have wasted many years looking for help for my acne, I have little time less to achieve other things. I hope you understand.

I am different from you, all the way you want to help sufferers, you care to post on this board, I only want to help myself, my sole purpose coming to this board is to look for help, I know I'm selfish, I don't contribute at all!

We will keep in touched thru emails!!

Thanks Papines and ZF700 for your encouragement and care!!

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