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Skin Diseases Cured with Hydrochloric Acid Supplements

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How many people had results using betaine HCL?


"It takes 20 minutes to turn a live steer into a hamburger. One-third of cattle are blinking, looking around and mooing as their tails are cut off, their hooves removed, their hides pulled off and their bellies ripped open. It is happening all over North America. Veterinarians feel its out of control but the government says there is nothing they can do about it." --The Washington Post's "They Die Piece By Piece" (April 11, 2001)

There are 13 major slaughterhouses in the US. All 13 are "self-policed" for animal abuse. Each worker cuts the throat of about 309 cattle per hour. --Humane Society of America

It is legal in North America for male chicks to be thrown into grinders while alive for dog food companies.

"Poor animals! How jealously they guard their pathetic bodies... that which to us is merely an evening's meal, but to them is life itself." — T. Casey Brennan


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hi people, i recently started taking to betaine hydrochloric acid to help low stomach acid and to aid in the absorption of zinc

however im now at 8 tablets each 648mg with every meal and im still not feeling any burning effects... should i again increase?

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Sure!


"It takes 20 minutes to turn a live steer into a hamburger. One-third of cattle are blinking, looking around and mooing as their tails are cut off, their hooves removed, their hides pulled off and their bellies ripped open. It is happening all over North America. Veterinarians feel its out of control but the government says there is nothing they can do about it." --The Washington Post's "They Die Piece By Piece" (April 11, 2001)

There are 13 major slaughterhouses in the US. All 13 are "self-policed" for animal abuse. Each worker cuts the throat of about 309 cattle per hour. --Humane Society of America

It is legal in North America for male chicks to be thrown into grinders while alive for dog food companies.

"Poor animals! How jealously they guard their pathetic bodies... that which to us is merely an evening's meal, but to them is life itself." — T. Casey Brennan


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IMPORTANT: I no longer recommend Betaine Hydrochloride supplements. While I do believe they help people and they helped me as well, I think they are a short-term solution. The long-term solution to low stomach acid is to improve your overall health. One of the best things you can do is ingest natural sources of calcium such as Raw Organic Dairy and Canned Fish with Bones. Also get good sleep and reduce your stress. These were the most important changes I made to improve my stomach acid production and I believe they are much better solutions than taking Betaine Hydrochloride at every meal.

What if raw (or even non raw) dairy makes me bloated and gain weight super fast (like adding on a pound from one glass of milk!)!!!

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Guys, I took my 2 ms cap within a meal.... And I had this SLIGHT warm sensation in my chest... Bug not severe heartburn... Should I stay at 2... Cause I take 1 before and after a meal... I didn't exp anything in the first one.., but did in the second one... And also- I used to have constipation.., now I am experiencing diarriea after 1 hour of taking hcl....

Is something going wrong???

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very interesting.

yes, anger has been documented to inhibit the release of gastric secretions, HCI is one of them as i remember. Anger and anxiety have a close relationship with one another. ANxiety can occur as a suppressed anger, a severe disliking that is inescapable which then can also produce terror.

HCI also keeps most intestinal bacteria in the colon by inhibiting colonization in the small intestine. rosacea has been cured with small bowel sterilization by adminsitering antibiotics, as well as the ingestion of plastic pellets that increase intestinal transit time to below 30 hours, which then eradicated the small intestinal bacterial overgrowth.


#1.critical nutritional issues- b12(three forms exist), Calcium(yogurt, cheese or calcium phosphate supps) and vitamin d(sun or supps not to exceed 1000 iu). heme iron-most absorbable from meat only, clams are high. these are the most difficult vitamins to get and absorb. All others or about the same in difficulty in absorption. MAgnesium in our food supply is generally low as well, try natural calm supps.

#2 Fats- monounsaturated should dominate(olives), followed by polyunsaturated plant sources(nuts) but not if you have acne. the health benefits of fish oil and fish are controversial and i dont consume them due to mercury contamination and immune supression avoid processed fats if possible.

#3 Protein/amino acids- dairy and eggs best sources for tryptophan and methionine which convert to powerful antioxidants melatonin and glutathione.

#4 Carotenoids- alpha- beta carotene, beta cryptoxanthin, lutein zeaxanthin, astaxanthin. these are vital to human nutrition, carrots, butternut squash, pumpkin, chili pepper and cayenne pepper are the best sources.

#5 Regularity-BM at least once a day, Moist, large stools, 1 piece ideal, no maldigestion, no floating stools indicative of maldigested fat. HOW- insoluble fiber- wheat and cooked vegetables. soluble fiber-oats/ good bacteria ferment soluble fiber making short chain fatty acids that inhibit pathogens.

#6 Circadian cycles-Light, get up with the sun, and expose your entire body to it. darkness-melatonin is released upon the sensing of absolute darkness. sleep in a pitch black room, try to ensure 10 hours total darkness, wear sunglasses before bed. do not eat too late at night.

#7 Desirable physiological states(positive moods/emotions) do precisely what you like and what feels good to you, but not regardless of consequences, just from a perspective that, you own your life, and can determine precisely what you do with it and need not answer or ask of permission from anyone,achieving maximum autonomy and self government.


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OK. I disagree with the update. I don't think it is warranted that we should discontinue with Betaine HCl and replace it with the more natural approach recommended. Instead we can take enzymes once you decide to taper off the Betaine supplement.

I think for me, no matter how much non-oral intake approach I do, I still break out whenever I consume ANYTHING WITH cow's MILK. I know for sure because the acne looks DIFFERENT, it's bigger, has pus and appears in different places other than the face, like scalp, back and chest.

NOW this can't be normal. I certainly probably lack something genetically to process this like other people do. Either that or I have intestinal hyperpermeability (leaky gut), or both.

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okay so im starting with the hcl tablets, i have many of the symptoms of low stomach acidity so willing to give it a go, earlier this year i managed to reduce my severe acne to mild/moderate by not eating wheat

problem i have is i still get bloated after meals although nowhere near as much as ido with wheat. so il keep you guys updated. two tablets doesnt affect me so was thinking about starting strong and lowering rather than the opposite way around.

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Anymore success with this? I have low stomach acid and am weighing the pros and cons of adding digestive enzymes...


What's working for me:

Status: 98% clear

Diet:

-Avoiding gluten. Small portions of rice, sweet potatoes, potatoes and quinua for carbs.

-No milk, but I do enjoy small quanities of other full fat dairy

-Lots of fruits, veggies, water, eggs, fish, chicken, turkey, and occasionally red meat

-Green smoothies a few times a week

-Green tea everyday

Supplement:

-1000 IU D3 on non-sunny days. Will up it to 4000 again come fall.

-Zinc, 50 mg twice a week

-Omega 3, 3 times per day

Routine:

Evening- remove makeup with a few drops of jojoba oil, clean with hemp oil soap, moisturize with a bit more jojoba oil.

-Sleeping for a minimum of 8 hours a night, in darkness

-Walking the dog everyday and yoga once a week

Eating as healthy and organically as possible, applying only natural products to body, stressing less, exercising more, getting sunshine, camping, laughing lots.

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Link to my log, complete with progress photos!: CLICK!


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I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd mention that I saw a naturopath for the first time today and his approach is basically to restore stomach ph in the short term using Hcl. I'm excited to see results!

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I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd mention that I saw a naturopath for the first time today and his approach is basically to restore stomach ph in the short term using Hcl. I'm excited to see results!

What is the strength of the Hcl pills? Did he mention anything about them raising your Hcl levels (i.e will they begin to raise by themselves if you take pills long enough)?

I've heard Hcl tablets can increase stomach acid secretions when you stop taking them, but I'd like to know what your naturopath said.


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snapback.pngmoonbase, on , said:

To the OP. Dieting is silly. The only point of a diet should be to heal your body. Once that's done as long as you get the nutrients you need in you diet, you can eat whatever the hell you want. I think that's the big thing people are missing.


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I believe they are supposed to raise HCl levels; he talked about restoring the Ph of my stomach to increase digestion and inhibit bacteria in the upper intestine. The pills are the Thorne brand 520mg/capsule and I'm supposed to slowly ramp up the dose during meals until I feel discomfort or 'heat' (they can be neutralized w a base).

After two weeks he would like to then have me take tons of probiotics to try to recolonize my intestines w mostly acidophilus. His diagnosis was based on a talk w him and certain points like my propensity to wake up in the middle of the night and be unable to sleep more and he also kind of pushed around on my stomach and noticed some tenderness which is very real. According to him, acne patients almost always have digestive issues.

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I'm supposed to slowly ramp up the dose during meals until I feel discomfort or 'heat' (they can be neutralized w a base).

So what, you're supposed to swallow bleach if it's too much? :P

I've started to take HCl recently, and it's helped me not burp so much after meals. I'll probably keep taking them if it inhibits bacterial growth in the upper intestine.


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snapback.pngmoonbase, on , said:

To the OP. Dieting is silly. The only point of a diet should be to heal your body. Once that's done as long as you get the nutrients you need in you diet, you can eat whatever the hell you want. I think that's the big thing people are missing.


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Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd mention that I saw a naturopath for the first time today and his approach is basically to restore stomach ph in the short term using Hcl. I'm excited to see results!

My PH is too high. I am overly Alkaline. I thought that most of the junkfood that acne sufferers eat and drink are too acidic.Is he saying that you're too acidic or too alkaline?


''I'm not clever, but I figure if I ask all the questions, somebody else might have all the answers'' - Quote, Me!


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I'm trying this! I've been severely constipated lately, lost my appetite, and don't think I'm absorbing as much as I could be, or haven't been for years!

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Unless you have had a PH test you should not take HCL supplements. I had the symptoms of low stomach acid too. Well I got the 24 hour ph test test done and I had too much acid (acid reflux) unfortunately.

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Unless you have had a PH test you should not take HCL supplements. I had the symptoms of low stomach acid too. Well I got the 24 hour ph test test done and I had too much acid (acid reflux) unfortunately.

I'm curious, what was the test that you took that measured your stomach pH?

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