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#21 Floridaguy

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 09:18 AM

QUOTE(zxc @ Sep 26 2005, 02:06 PM)
If those people with very deep scars just kept on getting these treatments would the scars not disappear completely eventually?

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Good question. I think you do reach a limit of improvements but I quess in a perfect world if you had 15 fraxels you might get 100% improvement I have not heard anyone suggesting that can happen though. I would GUESS after 5 Fraxels i have 35% improvement I am sure I can get more but think it may taper off after Some point. However if after my 8th fraxel I notice I am still getting a strong return in improvements I would of course go on to number 9.
I will probably have another series of 3 sometime early next year.




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Posted 26 September 2005 - 09:39 AM

Floridaguy, i will be having 10 fraxels, with the first 3 a week apart and then the remaining ones two or three weeks apart after that....what kind of improvement do you think ill get in tone/scars?

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 10:29 AM

QUOTE(whyme? @ Sep 26 2005, 07:39 AM)
Floridaguy, i will be having 10 fraxels, with the first 3 a week apart and then the remaining ones two or three weeks apart after that....what kind of improvement do you think ill get in tone/scars?

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That's a lot of treatments! Is that what the doctor suggested? When will you have your first one. I hope it goes well...I wish you the best! I think you'll see some good results!

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 11:20 AM

thanks electroscars...my first one will be on Oct. 15

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 09:52 PM

I have been doing alot of research on fraxel laser, and have seen some before/after photos from dr's offices. To my dissappointment, it seems that this procedure is mostly hype as to the effectiveness in treating acne scars. The pictures posted up in the fraxel.com website seem to be highly misleading as i suspect they are only the few instances where the most signficant improvement in patient's outcome has been shown. call it biased advertisement. I recommend going to your local dr.'s office where they do fraxel treatments and asking to see some photos. I have yet to see any substantial improvements from the photos i've seen in my dr's office. Just a forethought, the pictures you see on reliant technology's fraxel laser can be misleading--showing only the few instances of patients who's outcome were positive compared to the numerous dissappointments other patients who've had it done showed.

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Posted 26 September 2005 - 10:39 PM

You may be right trident. There's a lot of variables involved though in the treatment, and it may be a while before the dust settles and we know how effective the Fraxel is long term for acne scarring. I do trust smilingeyes and Floridaguy, and they seem to be very satisfied with their improvements. So that gives me some hope that this isn't all just the latest and greatest laser hype and hoopla.

Dr. Rokhsar, one of the early investigators of the Fraxel laser (along with Fitzpatrick), is coming out with the most comprehensive study yet (over a 1000 patients) on the efficacy of Fraxel for acne scars. I'd be very interested in what this paper shows, although I would expect some level of bias towards the results. What really intruigues me about the Fraxel (besides the very little downtime) is that at a setting of 20 mJ, the
Fraxel penetrates the dermis down to a depth of 700 micrometers, the deepest of
any treatment or resurfacing procedure out there. No one on acne.org besides myself has ventured pass the 15 mJ level, except for lightgirl, who had 1 treatment at level 17. I had two spot treatments at Level 20, and have seem some softening of the scars, but nothing significant yet.


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Posted 27 September 2005 - 08:55 PM

i am really wanting to improve my skin texture, you think this will help??

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE(amnesiac @ Sep 27 2005, 08:55 PM)
i am really wanting to improve my skin texture, you think this will help??

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That's what I've heard and that's what they (the docs) claim. It's certainly one of my hopes to improve the texture that the CO2 laser ruined.

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(kooky @ Sep 28 2005, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE(amnesiac @ Sep 27 2005, 08:55 PM)
i am really wanting to improve my skin texture, you think this will help??

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That's what I've heard and that's what they (the docs) claim. It's certainly one of my hopes to improve the texture that the CO2 laser ruined.

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kooky - my texture has drastically improved with the PSR3 treatment. I am doing two more. It is making a huge difference!

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 07:48 PM

QUOTE(whyme? @ Sep 26 2005, 06:20 PM)
thanks electroscars...my first one will be on Oct. 15

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whyme, you should wait at least six months before doing new treatments, your skin will be still healing in October

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Posted 28 September 2005 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE(electroscars @ Sep 28 2005, 07:43 PM)
QUOTE(kooky @ Sep 28 2005, 05:31 PM)
QUOTE(amnesiac @ Sep 27 2005, 08:55 PM)
i am really wanting to improve my skin texture, you think this will help??

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That's what I've heard and that's what they (the docs) claim. It's certainly one of my hopes to improve the texture that the CO2 laser ruined.

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kooky - my texture has drastically improved with the PSR3 treatment. I am doing two more. It is making a huge difference!

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That's good to hear electro. I'd probably have to go with Fraxel since I don't think they offer PSR3 in my area yet.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 07:18 AM

QUOTE(whyme? @ Sep 26 2005, 03:39 PM)
Floridaguy, i will be having 10 fraxels, with the first 3 a week apart and then the remaining ones two or three weeks apart after that....what kind of improvement do you think ill get in tone/scars?

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You know when this Laser came out they were saying all you need is 3-5 treatments but now with a few thousand patients and lots of them with acne scars it is probably going to be in the 8-10 range to get to a point of satisfaction.
I have enough improvement after 5 to believe that 10 can produce a dramatic overall improvement but dont be dissapointed if a few scars dont respond quite as well and may need some filler attention.


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Posted 29 September 2005 - 02:53 PM

Anyone ever visited this website before?

http://www.lvcosmeti...Resurfacing.asp

This Doctor has NOTHING good to say about Fraxel what so ever, you can post questions to him, which i have done in the past, and they are always answered within 24hrs, he seem extremely popular aswell.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 08:20 PM

QUOTE(MissShady @ Sep 29 2005, 02:53 PM)
Anyone ever visited this website before?

http://www.lvcosmeti...Resurfacing.asp

This Doctor has NOTHING good to say about Fraxel what so ever, you can post questions to him, which i have done in the past, and they are always answered within 24hrs, he seem extremely popular aswell.

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Yeah I have been there a couple of times. He is quick in his response. He seems to be very opinionated on certain methods.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:13 PM

QUOTE(IDBNVS2 @ Sep 29 2005, 09:20 PM)
QUOTE(MissShady @ Sep 29 2005, 02:53 PM)
Anyone ever visited this website before?

http://www.lvcosmeti...Resurfacing.asp

This Doctor has NOTHING good to say about Fraxel what so ever, you can post questions to him, which i have done in the past, and they are always answered within 24hrs, he seem extremely popular aswell.

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Yeah I have been there a couple of times. He is quick in his response. He seems to be very opinionated on certain methods.

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It wouldn't be a surprise that the doctor is against fraxel if he doesn't have one (or even never tried one) and is still high on the erbium laser procedure because it contradicts with his practice. Alot of doctors seem to do this. They are shutdown about procedure they don't perform and isntead think that their own procedure is the cure all. This is a dangerous tactic to fall for. I'm not saying he is definately doing it, but I've seen many doctors shootdown procedures just b/c it isn't done in their office.

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 09:54 PM

Fraxel is by far the best laser out there now, anyone who says differently is full of shit...Another good thing about fraxel is it just raised the bar for other laser companies...now they have to come out with something that can deliver better results with the no downtime

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Posted 29 September 2005 - 11:08 PM

Yeah, I have to agree. If you've got the money, Fraxel definately looks like its the best option. Maybe not for terrible scars, but for medium/mild, and texture/hyperpigmentation issues like me I believe it's going to be a Godsend. I'm getting 5 Fraxels done within the next year.

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Posted 30 September 2005 - 08:54 PM

Has anyone experienced or heard of Fraxel causing fat loss?

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Posted 01 October 2005 - 03:36 PM

I'm thinking about getting a consulation from a local Dr. who does the fraxel treatment.. Just a quick question to those of you who have had it done or have had a consultation.. What was the price quoted to you for full face and/or spot treatment??

Just wondering what different docs are charging for this treatment as I'm sure it may vary a lot.

Sean..

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Posted 01 October 2005 - 08:43 PM

I was told by my dermatologist(who I trust) that lasers are NOT the right method for most people to treat acne scars. They work with lasers adn I have talked a lot about getting things done once my skin is completely free of acne. He told me that the lasers are made and good for taking away real fine wrinkles and spotty skin, but will do little for most acne scars. He also said that chemicals and peels for the most part are not that great for taking the marks away either. The best treatments i have found from researching and from talking to my doc. are dermabrasion and deep micro which does make your skin bleed.

I hope that everyone is seeing good results on here from the lasers, adn have nothing against them at all. I really didnt want to get dermabrasion or the deep micro done, but I guess if that is best that is what I will do.

The only time my dermo does lasers on acne scars is if the patient is of color and not a good candidate for dermabrasion or else they request that they want to have it done eveen after talking about the various treaments.

remember that lasers are the most expensive to do so of course most doctors love to push them off on people. I really would pay almost any amount of money to see my skin smoother, but I wont do a laser if I think it wont do anything for me or could make the situation even worse.

Since looking through various treatmetns adn seeing the before adn after photos I have seen a few people that had real good results and all but one(the person who did TCA) either had dermabrasion or deep micro. If anyone wants to post their before and afters for fraxels that really show an improvement I will run out and get it done. The only pictures I hfave seen were touched up from various websites and doctors that specialized in the practice.