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I think for me personally it has helped a lot in my chicken pox scar recovery (I had the pox back in June-July). Tough for me to have pictures because the before picture that they took, was before the chicken pox (which unfortunately happened after I had my first treatment).

I am now at treatment number four, which brings back my face almost to the pre-chicken pox condition, with the exception of few stubborn scars. Discoloration definitely improved at least 50-75%, but I think I'll have to go for a couple more for finishing touches.

My Dr basically told me that Fraxel Restore (the non-ablative laser which requires several treatments spaced 2-4 weeks apart) will give you minimal results compared to the Fraxel Repair (ablative laser, which means you have some bleeding/oozing to deal with and longer downtime).

I had Fraxel Repair about 4 months ago and am pretty impressed with the results so far. Personally I wouldn't bother with Fraxel Restore unless you were unable to be treated with Repair (i.e. certain skin types have more risk w/ ablative lasers than others).


Fraxel Restore

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First Treatment (June 11th, 2009)

Level 6

Energy 45mj 1176micron=1.176mm depth

8 passes (4 horizontal, 4 vertical)

Products used: Ice pack, Gold Bond multivitamin moisturizer, hydroquinone 4%

Second Treatment (August 14th, 2009)

Level 6

Energy 50mj 1224 micron=1.224 mm depth

8 passes (4 horizontal, 4 vertical)

Energy 70mj, 2-3 passes spot treatment on deeper acne/chicken pox scars. 1316 micron=1.316 mm depth

Product used: Ice pack, Gold Bond multivitamin moisturizer, Remergent DNA Skin Repair, Aloe Vera multi vitamin gel, Neutrogena Even Tone Vitamin C with Helioplex Spf30, hydroquinone 4%

Third Treatment (September 25th, 2009)

Level 6

Energy 55mj (didn't check the micron info)

8 passes

Energy 70mj, couple passes spot treatment on scars.

Pain: Felt more than the last one even though energy only went up by 10%. Possible reason was because I've been under the sun this past couple weeks (not sure).

Fourth Treatment (November 13th, 2009)

Level 6

Energy 55 mj on mid face

Energy 30 mj on forehead

8 passes

Energy 70mj, couple passes spot treatment on scars.

Pain: Don't know why it was much more painful this time, even with leaving numbing cream longer than before..but 2nd day now, face is reasonably decent/pink.


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I did Fraxel restore a few years ago, see my sig and yes I did see improvement but you have to have a min of 5 treatments and even then you will probably need more unless you have mild scarring.

Adella- I'm sorry but I don't think any treatment will totally rid you of scars, most doctors surgeons will tell you once a scar always a scar. What you should expect is to soften the scars and improve them. you have to be realistic and it's a constant battle.

I've had many treatments of different kinds to lessen my scarring over the past 10 plus years and it is something that has def improved but I will continue to treat my issues to get the best possible outcome which is softening of my scars.

I am now looking into having the Repair done.

Most people have unrealistic expectations and then are disappointed with the outcome. Fraxel Restore is something that requires a lot of patience, time and yes, money. you can't just do two or three treatments and expect to see almost any results.

It's to bad it is so expensive so we can't have more access to doing these treatments more often.


Fraxel 2 Full Face 1st treatment

1st Oct 10, 2006

MJ 40

8 passes

Fraxel 2 Full Face 2nd treatment

Nov9th 2006

Treatment Level 8

8 Passes

KJ 3.52

Energy Fluency (MJ) 40

Density 424

Fraxel 2 Full Face 3rd treatment

Dec 6th, 06

Treatment Level 10

8 to 10 passes

KJ: 3.17

Energy Fluence 40

Fraxel 2 full Face 4th treatment

Jan 3rd, 07

Treatment Level 10

MJ 40

Passes 8

KJ 2.79

Fraxel2 Full face 5th treatment

Jan 24, 07

MJ 40 with a few lower settings

Treatment Level- R1

Density 600

10+ passes

KJ- 3.74


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Did you read the thread? Im halfway but there's alot of people with positive results here no?

That's what I am thinking. I am one of the posters who's happy with the results from Fraxel Restore. I've mentioned over and over how happy I was and posted detailed progress pictures. :eh:


Fraxel II Full Face

1st Treatment

02/26/2008

35MJ, Treatment Level 4

8 Passes

2nd Treatment

03/20/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 5

8 passes

3rd Treatment

04/10/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

8 passes

4th Treatment

05/07/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

5th Treatment

06/11/2008

45MJ, Treatment Level 6

12 passes on both cheeks and 8 passes on the rest

(7 month break here)

6th Treatment

01/24/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

7th Treatment

03/04/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

8th Treatment

04/15/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes

(7 month break here)

9th Treatment

11/25/2009

70MJ, Treatment Level 11

8 passes


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Hi everyone,

I am currently undergoing fraxel treatments for my acne scarring and have read this entire thread like a million times, if you can believe that. No one has posted on here in a while, so I thought I'd give it a go since reading others posts has been so helpful to me. Also, it'd be nice to chat with anyone who may be undergoing fraxel now as I am.

So a brief background on me...I am 30 yrs old and have been dealing with acne scarring for the last 3 years. I had persistant acne until finally going on accutane about 3 yrs ago. Sadly, it wasn't the type that would've necessarily left scars, but I was stupid and young and attacked it mercilessly, not realizing what the consequences would be.

My scarring is mild and mainly concentrated on my forehead and right cheek, close to my mouth. I had my first fraxel treatment on Sep10, 2009. My second was on Nov19, 2009, and I just had my third on Jan22, 2010. I started noticing subtle improvement after my second, especially on the really shallow ones, which made me decide to get the third. This was no easy decision, however, because I am a BIG worrier, and each treatment scares the crap out of me. It is so painful during the procedure that I think, "how can this not be doing MORE damage??" And every time I get one done, I scrutinize my face endlessly trying to make sure I don't see any new scars or marks as a result of the procedure. That has always been my biggest hangup.. I can deal with the expense of the treatments and I can also deal with obtaining NO results, but I would an emotional disaster if I created MORE scars from getting these treatments. I worry about it every time and never get fully comfortable with the procedure. If I could give one piece of advice to those considering this procedure, it would be to take A LOT of BEFORE pictures prior to getting your first procedure. I did this to be safe, and I'm so glad I did. As I said, after getting the procedures, I have been scanning my face daily in all the different harsh lighting scenarios that we all hate. And I almost had a heart attack because there were a few scars that I found that I didn't think I had before. So i referred back to the before photos that I took, and sure enough, they were there. I guess I just never noticed them because I have certain scars that are the most bothersome to me, and those are the ones I focused on. As upsetting as it was to discover scars I never realized were there, it was MUCH MUCH better than thinking that the fraxel caused new scars, which is exactly what I would've thought had I not taken those before photos. But be warned, it is VERY depressing analyzing your photos. I spend so much time avoiding mirrors and windows and photos of myself, so it was indeed very difficult to actually force myself to look at those photos.

So anyway, that's my 2 cents. Sorry for such a long post, I just wanted to fill everyone in on where I'm at. if anyone else out there is currently undergoing treatments, I'd love to hear from you!

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Hi

I too have found this thread to be very useful and read it all a few months ago when I was thinking of having Fraxel. Thanks to everyone who's posted on here.

I had CO2 laser 5 years ago to try and get rid of some patches of scarring I had. They weren't too severe but they bothered me. The treatment only partly helped with the scarring but left areas of hypopigmentation on my face where I'd had the laser. The dermatologist told me he thought these areas would darken eventually but after 5 years they hadn't.

I decided to see a different cosmetic surgeon this time. Dr Khan in London was mentioned alot on the stem cell thread so I decided to see him. He told me that I could try either Fraxel Repair or stem cells and either of them should remove the remaining scarring and I also chose to have the Recell as well to try to repigment my face.

I chose to have Fraxel Repair as it was cheaper than the stem cells and I had it done on 2nd January. I also followed it up with the Recell on 19th January.

For those of you that don't know about Recell it involved taking a skin graft about the size of a postage stamp from just below my ear. This skin is then treated in the enzyme, trypsin, for about 15 minutes. After this Dr Khan needled the areas of my face where I have hypopigmentation. Then he injected the solution containing my skin cells into these areas. Finally he sprayed more of the cells over the surface of these areas and then bandaged me up. The idea behind this is that the melanocyte cells from the skin sample will reproduce and repigment my face so that hopefully within a few months my face will all be a similar colour.

So far I'm happy with the way my face is looking but it's early days. I think my face is looking smoother from the Fraxel and it will hopefully continue to improve over the next few months. It's very early to tell much about the colouration but I think it may be improved.

I was planning on posting on this thread after a few months when I could tell the full effects of my treatment but after I read your post I thought I may as well write now.

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Hi Mickey99,

thanks for responding! that Recell treatment sounds very promising...I wonder if it is something that can help atrophic (indented) scarring as well? I'd be curious to know more about that. I assume it must be pretty expensive. That's great that there's something available to treat the hypopigmentation.

Also, how did you find your skin responded to the Repair? From my understanding, it is similar to an ablative CO2 laser, but supposed to be safer than those in the past. I considered doing the Repair instead of the Restore, but this is the first time i've done anything about my scarring, so I was too chicken to go straight to the Repair. I was also worried about potential hypopigmentation, similar to what you experienced from the CO2.

How has your recovery from the Repair been? I heard it's a little longer downtime than Restore. I find that my downtime from Restore is about 4 days of swelling and redness, then another 3-5 days of redness, which diminishes a little each day. They say Restore is supposed to be an easier recovery than a more ablative laser, but it still feels pretty difficult to me! Every time I get one I just try not to look at myself for like a week because it freaks me out too much.

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Hi acneisawful

If you want to know more about Recell then check out a thread started by a guy named Ernestoria recently (search for ernestoria and it comes up). He had Subcision, Fraxel Repair and Recell all on the same day and has posted lots of pictures showing his recovery.

The Recell was much cheaper than the Fraxel - hundreds of pounds instead of thousands.

I was quite concerned about having a laser again since it was a laser that gave me hypopigmentation in the first place but the doctor assured me there was no risk of it getting worse and he thought it would get much better.

I think all three types of Fraxel work in quite a different way to the older ablative lasers. Because they only treat tiny points of the skin and leave the surrounding skin intact the skin can heal much more effectively and safely than with an ablative laser which treats larger areas.

Straight after the Fraxel my face had many tiny areas where it was bleeding but it didn't hurt. One or two days after the Fraxel it swelled up and got red and scabby. I think it was a couple more days or so after that when my skin started to peel and itch. The whole thing wasn't too bad though.

It's 25 days now after the Fraxel and I think my face looks a little bit like it's suntanned. Someone at work asked me today if I was wearing fake suntan. I wasn't expecting to look suntanned. I don't know if some of the colour is due to the Recell but my face is coloured all over where I had the Fraxel but I only had the Recell in the patches on my face where I have hypopigmentation. It's quite a few months since I read through this whole thread so I can't remember if other people described looking a bit suntanned after treatment.

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I would say between 30% - 40%. Hard to tell because lighting is different!

www.laserdermatologynyc.com/fraxel-laser.aspx

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Yeah, I have to agree. If you've got the money, Fraxel definately looks like its the best option. Maybe not for terrible scars, but for medium/mild, and texture/hyperpigmentation issues like me I believe it's going to be a Godsend. I'm getting 5 Fraxels done within the next year.

Hi, I want to know what kind of sid effects did you suffer?I have don fraxel last day but my skin is badly red.I want to know how long does it take?

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Yeah, I have to agree. If you've got the money, Fraxel definately looks like its the best option. Maybe not for terrible scars, but for medium/mild, and texture/hyperpigmentation issues like me I believe it's going to be a Godsend. I'm getting 5 Fraxels done within the next year.

Hi, I want to know what kind of sid effects did you suffer?I have don fraxel last day but my skin is badly red.I want to know how long does it take?

It's funny how people follow a hype... this dude is talking about a "godsend" yet never have a treatment done, wow....

I guess now, 5 years later, he or she thinks completely different about this treatment. Fraxel (restore) gives no improvement to indented scarring.

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Hi everyone.

I'm posting the pictures of my skin after my 6th Fraxel. All of the pictures were taken on 03/02/2009, approximately 5 weeks and plus after my 6th Fraxel. I do not believe that there was any micro-swelling left from the 6th Fraxel, as it normally lasts about 3 weeks on my skin.

If anybody is interested in before/after comparison pictures, please take a look at my post #5515 on page 276. I have my before pictures posted in there.

Currently, my main concern/focus is the large boxcar scars on the right side of my face, which hadn't improved much after 5 Fraxels. However, after my 6th Fraxel with 70MJ and Treatment Level 11, I feel I've noticed very good improvements.

Taken w/o makeup on 03/02/2009:

Taken w/ makeup on 03/02/2009:

I'm very happy with the left side of my face. With makeup, this side of my face looks very good compared to how it used to look. I'm happy.

Taken w/o makeup on 03/02/2009:

Taken w/ makeup on 03/02/2009:

Today, I had my 7th Fraxel done. Just like my previous Fraxel, I felt almost no pain during the treatment. My doctor, PA and I were even having a conversation about traveling during the procedure. I know I'm repeating myself, but it is amazing to be able to have a conversation during Fraxel instead of feeling nothing but pain, pain and more pain.

If anyone happens to have any questions for me, feel free to send me a message. Good luck to everyone that is going through this.

Hi,

I just want to know how long did it take to get your normal skin colour?

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Hi everyone.

I'm posting the pictures of my skin after my 6th Fraxel. All of the pictures were taken on 03/02/2009, approximately 5 weeks and plus after my 6th Fraxel. I do not believe that there was any micro-swelling left from the 6th Fraxel, as it normally lasts about 3 weeks on my skin.

If anybody is interested in before/after comparison pictures, please take a look at my post #5515 on page 276. I have my before pictures posted in there.

Currently, my main concern/focus is the large boxcar scars on the right side of my face, which hadn't improved much after 5 Fraxels. However, after my 6th Fraxel with 70MJ and Treatment Level 11, I feel I've noticed very good improvements.

Taken w/o makeup on 03/02/2009:

Taken w/ makeup on 03/02/2009:

I'm very happy with the left side of my face. With makeup, this side of my face looks very good compared to how it used to look. I'm happy.

Taken w/o makeup on 03/02/2009:

Taken w/ makeup on 03/02/2009:

Today, I had my 7th Fraxel done. Just like my previous Fraxel, I felt almost no pain during the treatment. My doctor, PA and I were even having a conversation about traveling during the procedure. I know I'm repeating myself, but it is amazing to be able to have a conversation during Fraxel instead of feeling nothing but pain, pain and more pain.

If anyone happens to have any questions for me, feel free to send me a message. Good luck to everyone that is going through this.

Hi,

I just want to know how long did it take to get your normal skin colour?

well again the laser isnt very strong. so id say a few weeks at most.

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Hello everyone. I'm here to post a few pictures that show the results from Fraxel Restore.

In observing the pictures, please keep in mind that:

- All pictures are taken under the daylight, with no camera flash, because camera flash tends to erase the appearance of my scars.

-My intention is to help others in making whatever the decision that's best for them, just like caesar2's pictures had helped me. I am in no way trying to make Fraxel look good or bad, by posting these pictures.

-My pictures are taken with and without makeup. Whether or not I have makeup on in each picture is stated with pictures.

- I try to post pictures that make my scars look as bad as possible. I've found that pictures taken under the daylight with a little bit of shadow make the scars look bad, so I've used a lot of those pictures (you'll see what's I am talking about later).

Before Fraxel (FEBRUARY 2008)

1st pictures- Left cheek, no makeup

Both are the exact same pictures, the left one under the natural daylight without editing & the right one under the natural daylight with editing to add more shadow to highlight the scars. In addition to the icepick scars you see in these pictures, I had about 6-7 large box scars on my left side but they were hard to photograph. Also, as you can see, I had A LOT of melasma.

2nd picture - Left cheek, with makeup

Bad picture, I know. Sorry. Since my icepick scars pre-Fraxel were pretty deep, makeup actually made the scars look worse though it did help hiding my melasma and uneven complexion. I wish I had better pictures with makeup, but I don't.

3rd picutres - Right cheek, with makeup

I had a fewer scars on this side of my face, but I had some of the deepest icepick & boxed scars on this side. No pictures without makeup because the scars were actually easier to photograph with makeup.

After 5 treatments of Fraxel & 6 month after the 5th treatment (DECEMBER 2008)

4th picture - Left cheek, with makeup

You can see that most of the icepick scars have disappeared or become shallower. I still have boxed scars but with softer edges. My husband thinks that this side of my face was originally much worse than the other (right) side, but this side has shown more improvements than the right side. I was not expecting icepick scars to show much improvements, so I was surprised.

5th picture - Left cheek, without makeup

This was taken in Dec 08 right after visiting my dermatologist to remove the last few milias that developed during/after Fraxel. You see a few red spots because of that. I had about 20 milias all over my face in June 08, but Retin-A and a few visits to my dermatologist have helped greatly. As of Jan 09, I only have 2~3 small milias.

6th picture- Right cheek, with makeup

This side showed the minimum results. But some of the very deep scars you see in picture #3 have become shallower. That I am happy about.

7th picture - Right cheek, without makeup

Again, this side has shown the minimum results.

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I just had my 6th Fraxel Restore treatment at 70MJ, and I'm SO very swollen like Mike Tyson after the match. Wow! I will keep you guys updated and post more pictures soon. Good luck to everyone!!!

hiiiii!!!im new to this forum n would llike 2 know wer r pic????i dunt c anything :think: :think:

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Thanks guys.

I am looking into non ablative laser - fraxel.I don't come from a wealthy family. Much of my scarring is a result of no medical care. I saw a specialist this year. I have no medical so, I pay for everything.

Had a cystic breakout and used a prescription topical and antibiotics to clear my acne. Sadly I was left with red pigment or so I thought. Turns out is a shallow scar. I am so sad about it. Worst of all, it was over a year waiting for my doctor to get me a dermatologist. My GP ducked and dodged my calls. When they finally have me my date with a specialist, I had already been through a cystic breakout. The specialist told me they had no record of any appointment for me except 3months prior.

I am so mad cause my dermatologist could have seen a helped me. Instead, I am sad, depressed, and anti social. This isn't living. I need help.

Lightgirl - thanks for your questions to sirgreg. I will use them to speak to my dermatoligist. Did you ever post pics?

Sirgreg - how did it turn out for you? Is. Your gf supportive? I envy you. I had dated a lot last year. No girls in my life atm. I feel like friends forgot me or most have.

BX - is an inspiration . Thanks for your support.

I see my derm 2mw. I look at my childhood pic and I am close to tears. I was full of lifé, positivity, dreams, happy, and energetic. My best f now is my xbox atm. Girls and dating aren't in my life. I use to box like BX in my teens competively. I feel like such a pussy but, I am just so sad guys.

I lost my faith in god, in life, and everything. I just want my life back, to be happy, and free. To meet girls again, date, live, and love without the consciousness of feeling like the elephant man.

You guys give me faith and hope. Something to believe in. If it wasn't for my family, especially younger brother, I don't know what I would do. I just lost a lot of family and this scarring on top of everything, I feel like I am spinning out of control.

I guess I just want something to believe in.

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Fraxel Small Area (2"x 2")

$550.00 - 1x

$440.00 - discount

$1072.50 - 3x

$2145.00 - 6x + 1 free

Fraxel Half Face

$850.00 - 1x

$680.00 - 1x discounted

$1657.50 - 3x

$3315.00 - 6x + 1 free

Fraxel Full Face

$1080.00 - 1x

$864.00 - 1x discounted

$2106.00 - 3x

$4212.00 - 6x + 1 free

I spoke to my dermatologist. I was feeling depressed last bit then better the other day after seeing my dermatologist. Healing but, I am quite conscious again today. I searched out some fraxel places online. Found the above prices. I emailed them with Lightgirl's questions. Curious if anyone of you guys find this legit or what? I know its expensive and my derm was pushing me away from it so it seemed. Not sure if he feels I don't need it as he feels in 6month to a year, he believes things will have improved. I am still thinking about this laser treatment. Even 30-50% better would be worth it.

I hope to hear from you guys and if not, maybe I will pm a few of you guys. Thanks.

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I'm so incredibly frustrated with Fraxel research, because there are such discrepancies between what different people say. The Fraxel website (as well as other people) say healing is about two days and downtime is a week; others say they were looking terrible for one to two months. Some people say it's $2k per treatment; others say it was $700-800. Some people say it was amazing and worked wonders; other people say it's a complete waste of time and does nothing.

I have no idea who to believe or what to think or what to do. I understand results vary sometimes between people, but there seems to be zero consensus about anything involving Fraxel.

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I'm so incredibly frustrated with Fraxel research, because there are such discrepancies between what different people say. The Fraxel website (as well as other people) say healing is about two days and downtime is a week; others say they were looking terrible for one to two months. Some people say it's $2k per treatment; others say it was $700-800. Some people say it was amazing and worked wonders; other people say it's a complete waste of time and does nothing.

I have no idea who to believe or what to think or what to do. I understand results vary sometimes between people, but there seems to be zero consensus about anything involving Fraxel.

There's discrepancies because people are stupid.

The reviews are mixed because people don't know the difference between Fraxel re:fine, re:store and re:pair. All different lasers. HUGE difference in results. This is also why you see such discrepancies with prices. You'll get different prices from doctors because some have already made their money to pay back for the laser purchase. Some will charge more because they are more experienced. Some will charge less with bundle treatments. ETC. Don't go by online reviews of prices, go by your own consultations. If you are comparing prices, make sure you're at least comparing the right laser. I.e. fraxel repair vs fraxel repair, 1 full face treatment vs 1 full face treatment.

Healing downtime will be independent on your own healing capabilities. But again, read above. Mixed reviews on different lasers. Also, results, as you said, will heavily depend on the doctor + aggressiveness + severity of your scarring + your body healing capability.

Long story short-

Fraxel refine, weakest laser, need several treatments, very extremely shallow scarring. Almost no downtime.

Fraxel restore, medium laser, need several treatments, shallow scarring. Maybe two days downtime.

Fraxel repair, strongest laser, may or may not need several treatments. It's marketed as a one time deal thing and in some cases it is. But imo, all lasers need several treatments. Expect 1-2 week downtime with at least 1-2 month redness.

Those are just general outlines. Research thoroughly on the one your doctor is offering.

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Thank you for the very excellent post.

One quick question in regards to your summary of the different lasers (I realize these are just general outlines):

For the Repair, you mention 1-2 months of redness afterwards (in addition to the downtime). When you say Restore has ~two days downtime, is there generally redness afterward, and if so, how long is typical?

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Thank you for the very excellent post.

One quick question in regards to your summary of the different lasers (I realize these are just general outlines):

For the Repair, you mention 1-2 months of redness afterwards (in addition to the downtime). When you say Restore has ~two days downtime, is there generally redness afterward, and if so, how long is typical?

FML Differin .1 & .3% are helping. I was 99% sure set on fraxel till I saw fraxel laser damage

http://images.search.yahoo.com/images/view...umb=gPXmQ/i0ubM

Now I am scared.

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Thank you for the very excellent post.

One quick question in regards to your summary of the different lasers (I realize these are just general outlines):

For the Repair, you mention 1-2 months of redness afterwards (in addition to the downtime). When you say Restore has ~two days downtime, is there generally redness afterward, and if so, how long is typical?

I cannot answer your question perfectly about downtime as I've never had Fraxel restore. But it's safe to say that you will have redness for a week or two. Depending on your skin type and how deep your doctor goes. Keep in mind though, everyone is different. Some people will be out of the house in 3 days, others might not feel comfortable going out for two weeks.

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Thank you for the very excellent post.

One quick question in regards to your summary of the different lasers (I realize these are just general outlines):

For the Repair, you mention 1-2 months of redness afterwards (in addition to the downtime). When you say Restore has ~two days downtime, is there generally redness afterward, and if so, how long is typical?

I cannot answer your question perfectly about downtime as I've never had Fraxel restore. But it's safe to say that you will have redness for a week or two. Depending on your skin type and how deep your doctor goes. Keep in mind though, everyone is different. Some people will be out of the house in 3 days, others might not feel comfortable going out for two weeks.

Its kind of scary. I saw that link and well, I don't know what to say other then, make sure its a doctor doing the laser and that he has experience.

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Hello everyone. I'm here to post a few pictures that show the results from Fraxel Restore.

In observing the pictures, please keep in mind that:

- All pictures are taken under the daylight, with no camera flash, because camera flash tends to erase the appearance of my scars.

-My intention is to help others in making whatever the decision that's best for them, just like caesar2's pictures had helped me. I am in no way trying to make Fraxel look good or bad, by posting these pictures.

-My pictures are taken with and without makeup. Whether or not I have makeup on in each picture is stated with pictures.

- I try to post pictures that make my scars look as bad as possible. I've found that pictures taken under the daylight with a little bit of shadow make the scars look bad, so I've used a lot of those pictures (you'll see what's I am talking about later).

Before Fraxel (FEBRUARY 2008)

1st pictures- Left cheek, no makeup

Both are the exact same pictures, the left one under the natural daylight without editing & the right one under the natural daylight with editing to add more shadow to highlight the scars. In addition to the icepick scars you see in these pictures, I had about 6-7 large box scars on my left side but they were hard to photograph. Also, as you can see, I had A LOT of melasma.

2nd picture - Left cheek, with makeup

Bad picture, I know. Sorry. Since my icepick scars pre-Fraxel were pretty deep, makeup actually made the scars look worse though it did help hiding my melasma and uneven complexion. I wish I had better pictures with makeup, but I don't.

3rd picutres - Right cheek, with makeup

I had a fewer scars on this side of my face, but I had some of the deepest icepick & boxed scars on this side. No pictures without makeup because the scars were actually easier to photograph with makeup.

After 5 treatments of Fraxel & 6 month after the 5th treatment (DECEMBER 2008)

4th picture - Left cheek, with makeup

You can see that most of the icepick scars have disappeared or become shallower. I still have boxed scars but with softer edges. My husband thinks that this side of my face was originally much worse than the other (right) side, but this side has shown more improvements than the right side. I was not expecting icepick scars to show much improvements, so I was surprised.

5th picture - Left cheek, without makeup

This was taken in Dec 08 right after visiting my dermatologist to remove the last few milias that developed during/after Fraxel. You see a few red spots because of that. I had about 20 milias all over my face in June 08, but Retin-A and a few visits to my dermatologist have helped greatly. As of Jan 09, I only have 2~3 small milias.

6th picture- Right cheek, with makeup

This side showed the minimum results. But some of the very deep scars you see in picture #3 have become shallower. That I am happy about.

7th picture - Right cheek, without makeup

Again, this side has shown the minimum results.

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I just had my 6th Fraxel Restore treatment at 70MJ, and I'm SO very swollen like Mike Tyson after the match. Wow! I will keep you guys updated and post more pictures soon. Good luck to everyone!!!

Hey guys I'm new to the site and have been reading through this thread. Just wondering if anyone can tell me why I can't see bellydance's attachments?

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QUOTE (imjayhawk @ Feb 9 2009, 12:15 AM)

bellydance_me - Thanks for posting the pics and being clear about your results. I'm glad that you got visible improvements. If money allows, I think you should go for a set of six more Fraxels and you should be good to go. If I had results as yours, I really wouldn't mind the cost.

Thanks for the encouragement, imjayhawk. I'm actually thinking about getting two more Fraxels (total of 8) and be done with it. It's 3 weeks post my 6th Fraxel now, and I am thinking that with two more Fraxels, I'll probably be happy enough about my skin.

I will have my 7th on 3/7/09. I will post more of my progress pictures soon.

Good luck everyone! smile.gif

Hi thank you for this valuable info. i 've got acne scars since iwas a teenager now i'm 39,I've done my first fractional dual laser and my face is still red and swollen.I couldn't see your pics could you post again.thank you

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