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#1 jamiep

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 02:53 AM

My son, who has severe acne, is on a acne diet of vegetables, fruit, and lean white meats and fish. He has been on it for a week, and although we have seen improvement already, he lost 10 pounds in one week!

The ten pounds hasn't hurt him, but he can't afford to lose any more weight.

My question is: How does my 17 year old son get enough calories on this diet? Please help because he can't stay on this diet if he continues to lose weight and he has already made great strides.



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Posted 26 April 2005 - 06:47 AM

Avacados and olive oil are very calorific and would not effect his diet adversely. Is he avoiding carbs? If so you could consider including healthier carbs such as organic brown rice and quinoa, but avoid combining them with the protein in the same meal - alternate say protein at lunch with carbs at dinner time. As we get the majority of our calorie intake from the consumption of carbohydrates, this could be why he is losing weight so dramatically. Other than that, super size portions might be an idea!

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 07:04 AM

AS he wants to stay away from certain types of food it is difficult to say what he can have has ideally you would want it to be as fresh and natural as possible. As bexi said avacados are very high in carlories as are nuts which can be a good one though i am slightly unsure about what ones would be best on the diet - you could search them in this forum.

My other advice is to try some sort of protein drink - not a lucozade type energy drink as it is full of glucose and bad for the skin but a specialist weight gain drink you can buy them at alot of gyms and sports shops r online (some are also available in larger supermarkets) these should help matain his weight while on the diet. I would advise him to stay away from creatine and keep exercising regualarly it will still keep doing him the world of good

good luck and i hope it works out
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Posted 26 April 2005 - 07:17 AM

Well, those first 10 lbs are like when someone goes on Atkins. A lot is water. My son did the same thing and is a lot more stable now, but like your son, can not afford to drop much more.

We make sure he has grains now. Oatmeal, quinoa, brown rice, and now as you have heard me say, the Food For Life Sprouted Grain Breads and buns. Those are FULL of calories and protein.

I would add pumpkin seeds and some dried fruit also. Best if you start with limited raisins and dried apples. Those seemed to work fine for my son, but since he has SUCH a sweet tooth, I almost have to dole out portions or he'd eat the entire 5 lbs when it arrives via UPS.

You know, it is often enough for some to ditch the sugar and dairy and refined products. We don't all have to be so strict that we throw out everything that can possibly cause acne. Why we wouldn't be left with much would we? Some advocate not eating meats cause they are harder to digest, some advocate lots of nuts, while others do not. Some say NO grains, while others say whole grains. Dr. Mann emailed me back a while ago and he didn't say that the boys in the study NEVER ate breads, etc.... he said they were limited and of the "whole" variety. I personally think that there is such a whopping difference in say a McDonald's burger and the lean ground turkey breast burger I made the other night that shouldn't even be called the same thing. That is what I think is the key for many. Keep many old standbys but "health" them up a bit. Don't fall for the health food store trap though were just because it is on the shelf there we assume it is good for us. Many are just healthed up enough but still have evaporated cane juice, etc..... Stick to basics, but add in the things we have found work. STAY clear of trans fats, too many of any fats, refined grains, refined sugars, and dairy.

Let us know if you need any further suggestions. But remember, we've been through this and you can bank on the fact that it is working and his weight has become stable. In fact, he may have gained back a pound or two more. Trouble is just prior to starting this he had the flu and lost about 8 lbs! Bad timing!



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Posted 26 April 2005 - 08:54 AM

One more thing. Many don't eat a lot of legumes, but I always have a pot of beans going. I know for a fact 100% sure that they don't bother his acne. They will help with more calories too. I use lentils, black beans, adzuki beans, pinto, those are our favorites. Just thought I would mention that too.

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 09:00 AM

I had the same problem.
As far as I can see you need to intake a lot of extra virgin olive oil and fish (raw tuna in my case).

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 09:08 AM

yes - rest assured that his weight loss will taper off and stabilize. i lost 12 pounds rather quickly and was slightly concerned too, but my body adjusted and i'm now maintaining my weight just fine.
all excellent suggestions above - it is imperative in my opinion that he consumes grains at least once a day (brown rice and quinoa at minimum) and i agree wholeheartedly with legumes. my favorites are black beans and lentils - and these are very 'safe' foods for my skin as well.

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Posted 26 April 2005 - 03:17 PM

I meant to suggest a sweet potato also. Those are eaten at least 4 times a week at my house. It makes a great dessert with pumpkin pie spice. (I know I repeat myself don't I? wacko.gif )
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Posted 26 April 2005 - 03:27 PM

Try getting some Chana Dal. It's like split peas/lentils, but even lower on the glycemic load. 150grms will give you about 480 calories. Add some salad, avacardo and olive oil and you'll have easily 700 calories in one meal.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 01:35 AM

I am about to post the same concern until I read yours. I've been on this diet for more than a month and saw an improvement on my skin. Lately, an acquaintance saw me, the first thing she said was that I lost weight. Then another friend of mine said the same thing. I DON'T WANT TO LOOK THIN AND SCRAWNY, I look better stuffed up. I planned to enroll in a gym this coming May in order to improve my circulation and gain some muscles but since I lost weight, I now have second thoughts coz it might make me shrink even more.

- Does anyone know of any food that can't flare me up but never make me thin

- This diet is hard to follow, before, when I'm hungry, I can simply order a burger from the stores near the office or grab a bag of chips under my drawer and never get hungry. Now, it's no longer possible to eat in fastfood restaurants or snag sandwiches (bread, hello!), I have to make my own meal! Therefore I have to wait till I get home, cooking and at the same time feeling like I'm going to faint from hunger.

- Can anyone please share their recipes? Through the past weeks, I've discovered a few recipes of my own, now I'm getting sick of the same dishes I do so I'm losing my appetite. I need some variety.


Ok, that's all for now, wish me fat. wacko.gif




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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:30 PM

Instead of grabbing the chips, bring something else to grab! Bring some fruit, nuts, raisins or carrot sticks. Just because you can't grab a burger at a fastfood place doesn't mean you have to starve!
My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.

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Posted 27 April 2005 - 04:53 PM

first, approximately how many carbohydrates/day is your son consuming? anything under 100g of carbs/day is medically considered ketosis. for a growing child, this is not something you want.

the fact that starches have been void in his diet is a bad idea. the effects of undereating on a growing child are much more severe than acne.

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Posted 28 April 2005 - 02:15 PM

i love having sunflower seeds. Nothing is wrong with them, and it gives you that warm feeling that I used to get from eating grains. Plus, it takes 0 effort unlike most of my meals.

Also, there is something called tempeh, I kind of fermented soybean, however more healthy and (in my opinion) tastier. I think its pure protein, which should help.

Maybe your son could lose a little more weight. His acne could possibly be caused by a bowel full of plaque, which seeps toxins into the bloodstream. One of you should look into bowel cleansing, which I just did and am very happy about. biggrin.gif