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Free (ish) Scar Treatment!! (Vinegar and Lemon Method)

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oursfan, you are really a nice person, ive seen many posts by you and its really cool that you posted pictures of your improvement... i have seen them, you look better, but still i would like to know your opinion since you see yourself everyday and not through photos like we do, so my question is, what percentage of improvement do you saw after the subcision?

thanks

by the way, im going to try that lemon and vinegar thing, i wonder if drinking orange juice would be the same or if drinking lemonade (with sugar)???

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hi ppl,

is vinegar actually made from acetic acid or wat??

This vinegar method sound really tempting..

And wat brand of vinegar to go for??

Sori for asking such a question. Many thks..

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I jus bought 5 lemons last night, keke.. Every day and night, I shall squezze in some lemon juice and glup down tons of water. Guess that water is good for the skin.

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oursfan, you are really a nice person, ive seen many posts by you and its really cool that you posted pictures of your improvement... i have seen them, you look better, but still i would like to know your opinion since you see yourself everyday and not through photos like we do, so my question is, what percentage of improvement do you saw after the subcision?

thanks

That's nice of you to say. Thanks! I think I see about 30-40% improvement thus far.


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I read many years ago that vinegar was good for many things. The book recommended rinsing your face and hair with cider vinegar. I think it keeps the skin at the correct ph level and after a while, the skin should normalise (rather than being excessively oily or dry). I guess it also has the exfoliating effect you guys discussed. I also read in a doctor's CO2 instruction sheet that patients should rinse with a weak vinegar/water solution. The book also recommended a spoon of cider vinegar after each meal. (I can't remember for what - this was around 30 years ago and I don't have the book anymore!) I'm sure it cannot harm, so give it a try - it's simple and cheap. The lemon juice in water should definitely help. Lemon juice is full of vit C which is essential for collagen production.

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oursfan,

have you tried any other treatments besides subcision?

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Freedom: The other treatments I've tried:

- CO2 laser: Helped a bit but not as much as subcision in my opinion. Looked really good at first but then a few years later the scars seem to have come back.

- Exfol Serum/Copper Peptides: I've only done this in areas that are no longer prone to breaking out where I have small shallow icepicks (my forehead and chin). It seems to have helped some. I also used the dermaroller in these areas to help the peptides penetrate the skin better.

- DermaSponge: I don't think this helped all that much because I had to scrub very hard which made the area really red (a bit of downtime). I don't think it was worth it. They do make a really nice moisturizer though! :P

- N-Lite: Had this done two weeks and four weeks after the subcision. Have not seen any results from it yet. Per my Dr. it could take up to 90 days to see any results from it. I have heard mixed reviews on N-Lite for acne scarring.


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oursfan,

thank you.

Do you feel that the dermaroller can be used to treat scars-or just to help topicals penetrate more deeply? How long have you been using this and have you seen any results?

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Hi Freedom: You're welcome. :P

I think the dermaroller is just to help topicals penetrate more deeply.

I have used it once a week for about two months and I have seen minor results. I think that I'd need to use it everyday for several months to see more improvement. It does irritate the skin to do it so that's why I only do it once a week. The "needles" are extremely small, but you can definitely feel them penetrating.


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thanks again.

When you say that it irritates the skin do you mean that it hurts or do you mean that your skin is irritated (inflammed) for days after using it?

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Sure.

It hurts a little bit (not much). The skin becomes red, inflamed for a little while after but not days -- More like a few hours actually.


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Can you use those little yellow bottles in the shape of lemons when adding it to water for a toxic? Can you use any vinegar?

Thanks

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Jamie - any vinegar is supposed to work. I have been using malt vinegar (the stuff you put on chips!) but I also bought some cider vinegar today and want to try that.

It's probably best to use fresh lemons, as the stuff you get in those little bottles have probably got additives in them.


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Is alright to use this method after about 8 months post accutane?

I know the lemon in water would be fine, but the vinegar>?

Thanks??

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I suggest you use the vinegar once and wait a couple of days, if you are OK with that, continue using it. I am using it neat (and my skin should be sensitive considering all the peels and other stuff I do) - but I suggest you dilute your vinegar - 3 part water to 1 part vinegar and just dab on to your skin. It actually makes skin feel very toned and soft immediately.

I know people who have been doing glycolic peels 6 months after accutane, so the vinegar should be fine.


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I have to say that the vinegar is really great!!!

I have applied it day and night (before my other topicals) and it seems to be helping with pigmentation. skin tone and texture. I really am quite surprised how nicely it's working.

Also, I read on a website that you can put a cup of cider vinegar into a bath to help you have soft skin - I did that last night. I had some ezcema patches on my arms - they virtually dissapeared overnight!

I'm not totally sure whether it's the lemon juice drink or the vinegar that's doing this, but I had a monor breakout on one of my cheeks and that has cleared up really well after a few days on this regimen.


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Vinegar it is, then. Thanks for telling all of us about this method, Maya. I'm sure it'll do wonders to help the skin. :P

Rive

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This really sounds good, im definately giving it a go. thankyou!

sven

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Hey, yeah, thanks Maya, for the tip!

I have been using the vinegar day and night for about 4 days now, just using it straight, not diluted... and I do see an improvement. My skin is softer than usual and feels tighter. And, this is NOT my imagination, but my red/dark marks on my skin are looking lighter... and believe me, I would notice ANY difference!


Trying to keep things in perspective!


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Yo - great stuff!! Amazing how some old fashioned remedy works.

Sven and Rive - dp update after a while, it would be great to see how it works for everyone.

I have no idea if it will help fill in my indents, but the skin softness and tone is a great bonus for me.

By the way, cider vinegar is definately less stinky than the malt!


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Hmmm......

Okay guys I have used this method (sorta) before to get my acne under control and it worked, also I noticed my skin tone/scars/etc.... looked a LOT better. Only thing is I was using Lemon Juice instead of vinegar.

So... the past 3 days or so I have tried this method with white and apple cider vinegar both reduced to 5% acidity (says it on bottle, so basically I didnt dilute it) And it didnt seem to have the toning/stinging etc. propertied that the lemon juice did. It actually kinda made my face feel like it was secreting sticky oil... So my question is should I go back to using lemon juice or try yet another vinegar? and Is there any reason that vinegar would be better for your skin and work better? As I understant it they are both natural AHA's... ohh haha and 1 more question :P

I use a 30% glycolic peel every week - would I be safe in just not using the vinegar/lemon method on the day of my peel or should I not the day after also?

Thanks so much guys ...

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sorry if this has already been asked, but after dabbing with vinegar, am i supposed to rinse my face after or does it work in the same manner as a toner ? thanks !

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dodgy skin- I don't know what Maya does but I dab it on and leave it for about 10-15 minutes before using topical treatment and moisturiser, I don't rinse it off.

franky- I use Malt vinegar that we use in cooking or to put on chips here in England. Not sure if that's the best vinegar to use or not but it HAS made a difference to my skin and my skin is not oily.

MAYA! :( yeah that Malt does stink.. you should have seen my husband the other night going round the house wondering why he could smell dinner :P


Trying to keep things in perspective!


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FrankY - I'm doing peels and the vinegar - doesn't seem to make my skin irritated. I think that the vinegar is less irritating that lemon on the face - also, lemon bleaches.

dodgy skin - I first splash my face with warm water, then I dab on the vinegar on top of that... and I leave it on (in the morning, I do this and then shower after an hour/at night I leave it on all night).

Yo - my kids keep asking me if I have been eating chips LOL!! :P


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haha, i got myself a bottle of crosse and blackweel sarson's venegar, malt.

and i just has the best chips ever with this vinegar on it and now, it's going on my face. hahaha, oh dear wonderful life, you are full of tricks.

here's hoping that vinegar is all that tasty on the face and more.

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