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Chocolate mystery

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We all know that there is an old study concluding chocolate does not affect acne (this was later extrapolated to 'diet does not affect acne' - the conventional medical wisdom still now).

Like most people with acne, I took my own personal experience over this study - it seemed that chocolate really did contribute to breaking out.

Now, recently I learned of the insulin / acne link. So I started thinking that maybe it wasn't the chocolate, but rather the sugar and the milk in it. Sugar and milk (or some components of it, anyway) are insulin no-nos.

So I started to drink large amounts of chocolate the way the Aztecs did - cocoa and water. No sugar, no milk (at first I found it quite bitter, but now I love the stuff, it's even better than the finest coffee ...)

I haven't been breaking out on this. BUT ... I recently found a study concluding that cocoa is IN ITSELF highly insulinotropic. So if the insulin link is the key, I should still be suffering for this.

What's going on? Any ideas?

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We all know that there is an old study concluding chocolate does not affect acne (this was later extrapolated to 'diet does not affect acne' - the conventional medical wisdom still now).

Like most people with acne, I took my own personal experience over this study - it seemed that chocolate really did contribute to breaking out.

Now, recently I learned of the insulin / acne link. So I started thinking that maybe it wasn't the chocolate, but rather the sugar and the milk in it. Sugar and milk (or some components of it, anyway) are insulin no-nos.

So I started to drink large amounts of chocolate the way the Aztecs did - cocoa and water. No sugar, no milk (at first I found it quite bitter, but now I love the stuff, it's even better than the finest coffee ...)

I haven't been breaking out on this. BUT ... I recently found a study concluding that cocoa is IN ITSELF highly insulinotropic. So if the insulin link is the key, I should still be suffering for this.

What's going on? Any ideas?

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Where do you get pure Cocoa with no added sugars?


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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I've been living on eggs, meat, animal fat and leafy veg and nuts for a month. Skin's never looked better since Accutane. As far as I can see, protein isn't the problem - it's high GI foods.

Stay the hell away from bread, pasta, rice and sugar. It really seems to be working for me (though I shouldn't have said that - sure jinx!)

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I've been living on eggs, meat, animal fat and leafy veg and nuts for a month. Skin's never looked better since Accutane. As far as I can see, protein isn't the problem - it's high GI foods.

Stay the hell away from bread, pasta, rice and sugar. It really seems to be working for me (though I shouldn't have said that - sure jinx!)


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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Where do you get pure Cocoa with no added sugars?


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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