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i am so sick of hearing back and forth that diet does or doesn't affect acne, and then hearing that oh, it's dairy that causes it! oh no, it's sodium! wait, it's sugar! what the freak am i supposed to do, i've tried everything, healthy and unhealthy and it dosn't change anything! aaaaaah i'm just ranting, not directed towards anyone

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i am so sick of hearing back and forth that diet does or doesn't affect acne, and then hearing that oh, it's dairy that causes it! oh no, it's sodium! wait, it's sugar! what the freak am i supposed to do, i've tried everything, healthy and unhealthy and it dosn't change anything! aaaaaah i'm just ranting, not directed towards anyone

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hazelnut,

It's all about finding the diet that works for you. Of course if you listen to everyone's advice you will go crazy because certain things work for certain people and not for others, duh, so it can be contradictory to try to follow EVERYONE"S advice. Do a little research on your own and a little experimenting with your own body and figure out what works for you. I've been a vegetarian since I was a teenager. My mom couldn't even get me to eat meat as a baby. A few years ago (before I had acne), I found that avoiding dairy, sugar, and trans fats made me feel much better in general. Now that I have acne, I'm working on tweaking my diet again to fit my state of being, and see what helps my acne. I'm a vegan... could never eat meat, and don't see any healthful reason to reintroduce dairy, so I'm attempting to incorporate some of the things I've seen here that have helped people, such as avoiding wheat/gluten, and making a conscious attempt to eat more protein in the form of tofu, tempeh, beans etc, as that keeps my grain consumption down.

Once I got acne, I was forced to look at diet in a whole new way, as I was under the assumption that my diet of lots of veggies and whole grains was very healthy, which it was! But obviously something is out of balance or I wouldn't have acne! Now it's my job to figure out what that is. Keeping a food diary helps.

I don't know what you're currently doing, or have done diet-wise, but it's a safe bet that sugar and trans-fats aren't doing you any good, and it's pretty universally acknowledged that they are detrimental to health, so why not start there? Then try giving up caffeine, dairy, etc if that doesn't work. Sorry so long.

Carrie


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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thanks a lot cjb...my problem is that i've tried literally everything, i tried no sugar and no dairy for about a year, that did nothing, and then i tried having dairy and other stuff i wouldn't normally, that didn't do anything either. i've been making all these tweaks and stuff for four years, and i've exhausted all options, so i feel really hopeless. the only thing that is left is re introducing meat...which i will absolutely not do, i've been a vegetarian since elementary school and i wouldn't eat meat for a million dollars...unless i could somehow have insight that it would cure me, that is the only way i'd consider it....being a vegan, have you found anything that's seemed to make an improvement? thanks cjb

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I can't honestly say that being a vegan helps with acne. I was a vegan when I got acne! I originally gave up dairy because of a dry scaly eyelid that would NOT go away. After doing a little reading, I decided to try eliminating dairy and within a few weeks it was back to normal. That was years ago, before I had acne.

I wish I had more answers diet-wise, but since I've only had acne for about a year, and I ignored it for awhile, I've only just started trying to solve it. My next plan of attack is liver flushing.

I know I'm not much help in answering your question.

Good luck, hazelnut!


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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I think acne is different in everyone. I've heard everything from certain products to certain foods to frequent masturbation that causes acne. For me it seems to be chocolate/candy and me irritating my skin too much by trying all this different shit. You should try different things and see if it effects your face. For example, if you drink 10 cans of pop in one day and have 2-3 active pimples beginning the next morning, that could possibly be why.


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- Warm Water

- Stridex Sensitive Skin Pads

- CnC Morning Glow


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i am so sick of hearing back and forth that diet does or doesn't affect acne, and then hearing that oh, it's dairy that causes it! oh no, it's sodium! wait, it's sugar! what the freak am i supposed to do, i've tried everything, healthy and unhealthy and it dosn't change anything! aaaaaah i'm just ranting, not directed towards anyone

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thanks cjb, the liver flushing thing seems like a good idea (then again everything i haven'tried always does at first) except i am confused on how to do it. do you have suggestions?

inzalilac, did this really work for you, or do you think your acne just wasn't severe and could have possibly just had a phase? if the no grains thing is actually some kind of cure, i'd by all means do it but it seems absurd to me...

thanks everyone for suggestions

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hazelnut, I've always read about liver flushing, but never tried it. Everyone here always recommends checking out curezone, but Denise posted a link to sensiblehealth.com and I found that VERY helpful. I have not done it yet. I'm cleaning out my colon first.

I'm intrigued by what inzalilac says, because before I had acne, I thought I had the diet thing all figured out. Now I'm being forced to rethink it. I have no ethical issue with OTHER people consuming organic meat, but I have NO desire. Fish maybe. I do take a fish oil supplement, but as far as eating fish, I worry about mercury and PCB contamination. Right now, I am just trying to avoid wheat/gluten and eating higher protien "grains" like quinoa.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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Try vegetable juicing, I was like you at the beginning. I was like, what the hell can I eat? Every food seemingly had a problem with it, even supplements, so then I said, fuck it, and just gulped down a bunch of vegetable juice.

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Vegetable juice is great. Try eating the VEGETABLES themselves, too. They will give you fiber.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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hazelnut, I've always read about liver flushing, but never tried it.  Everyone here always recommends checking out curezone, but Denise posted a link to sensiblehealth.com and I found that VERY helpful.  I have not done it yet.  I'm cleaning out my colon first.

I'm intrigued by what inzalilac says, because before I had acne, I thought I had the diet thing all figured out.  Now I'm being forced to rethink it.  I have no ethical issue with OTHER people consuming organic meat, but I have NO desire.  Fish maybe.  I do take a fish oil supplement, but as far as eating fish, I worry about mercury and PCB contamination.  Right now, I am just trying to avoid wheat/gluten and eating higher protien "grains" like quinoa.

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Good luck, Steve! Let us know how it goes. Did you do anything else to prepare for it, or did you just go for it?


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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Try vegetable juicing, I was like you at the beginning. I was like, what the hell can I eat? Every food seemingly had a problem with it, even supplements, so then I said, fuck it, and just gulped down a bunch of vegetable juice.

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Well, I didn't do anything planned but the more I read, the more I realized I had already been doing what was needed to prepare. I eat garlic and coconut oil daily both of which are parasite killers. I've been eating plenty of fiber rich foods and since I never had constipation problems, I read that I could skip the colon cleanse that some people do beforehand. Next time I do it though, I'll do the apple juice thing where you drink apple juice every two hours the day before so that the malic acid in the juice can break up the stones. Other than that, I just went for it. Bought a crapload of grapefruit(I bought like 8, and only used three for the flush items) and the rest of the things I had at home. It's really not that bad, although the epsom salt mixture isnt' TOO pleasant, it's still doable. I'm about to drink the olive oil mixture so I hope that goes down ok and after that, it's off to bed I go.


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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i am so sick of hearing back and forth that diet does or doesn't affect acne, and then hearing that oh, it's dairy that causes it! oh no, it's sodium! wait, it's sugar! what the freak am i supposed to do, i've tried everything, healthy and unhealthy and it dosn't change anything! aaaaaah i'm just ranting, not directed towards anyone


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Yay!  I probably eat a half a head (not clove) of garlic every day.  I figured I'd do the p&b shakes just because I have to wait until next weekend to have a couple of free days to do the cleanse.  I'm excited!

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And I'm up. The olive oil/grapefruit mixture actually taste pretty good, go figure  eusa_think.gif . I took my third dose of epsom salts this morning and found that them hard to take  eusa_sick.gif even though I just gulped down the first dose, had some trouble with the second dose. I'm doing the alternative schedule so I'll drink some more of the Olive/grape mixture at 840 then lie down and have my last dose of epsoms at 1040. So far, no trips to the bathroom although my stomach was grumbling and after taking the olive oil, It was as if I could feel something moving through my whole digestive tract, it was quite bizzare.

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I'm following your posts, Steve... anxious to see how you do. Keep posting! Thanks.

Carrie


My regimen:

Eat regularly: a wide variety of vegetables, eggs, meat/fish, cheese, yogurt, butter, fruit, nuts/seeds.

Occasionally eat: beans, squash, potatoes.

Don't eat: sugar, grains, most processed food.


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have u tried antibiotics?


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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And I'm up. The olive oil/grapefruit mixture actually taste pretty good, go figure  eusa_think.gif . I took my third dose of epsom salts this morning and found that them hard to take  eusa_sick.gif even though I just gulped down the first dose, had some trouble with the second dose. I'm doing the alternative schedule so I'll drink some more of the Olive/grape mixture at 840 then lie down and have my last dose of epsoms at 1040. So far, no trips to the bathroom although my stomach was grumbling and after taking the olive oil, It was as if I could feel something moving through my whole digestive tract, it was quite bizzare.


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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