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Hey everyone, I'm new here, and although past posts have been soooo much help, I still have a few questions.

I'm 17, and I used to have moderate, non-cystic acne. I've been using differin and benzaclin, while also taking Niacin, a pill that consists of zinc, folic acid, etc. It's cleared me up, kind of, I have a lot of blackheads now (from differin? I've been on for around 3 weeks), and my chin, where I had my worst acne, is still bad.

So, because I want to keep acne at bay, I've decided to try changing my diet. I've always ate a high-carb, high-fat, high-sugar diet, so, it's tough for me. But I want to eliminate foods that are high on the GI, and eat mostly raw food meals. What foods do you guys rely on? I've started drinking 3 liters of water a day, including a pot of green tea. Can I eat bread, like a slice of stone-ground whole wheat bread? What fruits? What about flaxseed- like, whats the difference between unhulled flaxseed, and just the normal kind? What about brewers yeast, nutritional yeast? I don't want to go crazy about diet, but I realize eating well has benefits beside that of good skin.

Thanks everyone.

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For almost everyone, diet doesn't make a difference. The only diet thing that ever helped me (and others) is to drink a lot of water; besides that, don't worry about it.

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Please ignore Ben Kweller. He had a total of 2 zits his whole life and "cured" it through increasing water intake.

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lol I love being the cynic, so I can't say I don't disagree with BenKweller. I think eating healthier would just be better for me, and maybe it might help my skin. But, what foods do you guys eat? Like with breads, which are best?

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Whole wheat bread rocks. Drink more water, eat whole wheat foods, and eat less sugar. That's the best way to get healthier from a sugar-heavy diet.

"Please ignore Ben Kweller. He had a total of 2 zits his whole life and "cured" it through increasing water intake."

Denise-- how many times will you use it against me that my acne wasn't as severe as yours? Don't be bitchy.

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Hello! I just want to let you know that you should go to an allergist to get checked in case you have a food allergy. It may be as simple as that. Some people are allergic to wheat...white bread is a derivative of wheat without the fiber...so eating whole wheat while healthy may not solve your problem. If you or your parents have insurance..all you have to pay is a copay. An endicrinologist may help as well in regulating hormonal levels. The last piece of advice is checkout skintactix.com they have great products that have cleared my sever acne at 90%. It is hereditary but their stuff really works. It regulates the ph of the skin, which is the natural healing state. The products ROCK. Hope this helps! Hugs, CJ

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Blondey is right. Different people may be allergic to different things. For some people it's gluten, for some it's dairy, for some it's sugar. You should either go to an allergist, or keep a food dairy and see what seems to break you out.

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Yup, but just keep in mind that even when you are deemed not allergic or intolerant to certain foods that they can still cause you problems. However if you can afford to do so, get an allergy test, but more specifically get a food intolerance test. Also, if you are concerned about this possibly being chronic acne (into your 30s or 60s even) then seeing an Endocrinologist can help you figure out if you have an hormonal imbalance, and if so what hormonal/health problem lead to it.

Say, is that pill you are taking called Nicomide? If so how quickly did it clear your skin? I'd say for the blackheads you may want to look into eliminating your Trans Fats (hydrogenated oil, partially hydrogenated oil) and possibly reduce some of your saturated & fried fat. In terms of added sugar most people find that while they may be sensitive to all types, high fructose corn syrup and corn syrup, seems to be the biggest troublemaker for us. Possibly because it can lead to higher incidences of inflammation, as it will raise your LDL cholesterol & Tryglyceride levels, something that your Nicomide or Niacin is trying to regulate.

Also in terms of diet, like I mentioned above, the thing is that "sugar" comes in many forms, some that aren't sweet such as grains and vegetables. Therefore for some of us, we found that eliminationg Gluten, Most Grains, or All Grains was a neccessity, as despite the supplements or medications, as long as our diet was contributing or fueling the problem, those things weren't effective enough. For me, once I eliminated gluten (95% of my problem), and I tested negative for gluten intolerance beforehand, I didn't need the insulin sensitizing medication!

So, definately be cynical, but please learn that the things we do in terms of food eliminaition, usually has a scientific basis for it. For things we can't explain, well that's what a food diary is for...your body will tell you exactly what it does or doesn't like =)


These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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Thanks SweetJade. I agree with you, but I find it strange that even my dermatologist will tell me that diet has nothing to do with acne. Anyway, I'd be glad to eliminate certain foods from my diet, but with what would I replace them with? For intance, I usually have bread all three meals of the day, how do I replace that? What can I eat for breakfast? I've looked at various listings of the glycemic index, and some say that foods, like lets say basmati rice, and sweet potatoe are high, while others, say they are low. Can someone just tell me which foods should be staple to my diet? Thanks for the help everyone..

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sorry, I think its aloada bs. Just drink water. Diet ain't gonna affect you that much. A lot of people find no success..

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polka's right. Diet really isn't a cause -- you guys just hate losing locus of control which is why you all get so pissy when someone intelligent tells you that diet has very little connection with acne.

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polka's right. Diet really isn't a cause -- you guys just hate losing locus of control which is why you all get so pissy when someone intelligent tells you that diet has very little connection with acne.


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Yeah I changed my diet a bunch when I was younger. It doesn't have any effect though -- people who claim that cutting out a dumb food cleared them are just great examples of the placebo effect. Melbournebloke is "clear" (if he really is) because he's gone into psychotic-mode where he believes himself to be a forest child even though he goes on the internet on a daily basis.

It's laughable how many people's acne here (especially those who've had it for years) are probably fueling it with the nocebo effect; you guys just want to believe you are "sick" because of the food you eat which makes your body keep thinking something's wrong.

And thanks Modest; your last album blew.

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lol, I was actually laughing when reading the replies. The reason why I'm interested in changing my diet is because in my family there have been already three cases of adult onset diabetes. I've always been thin, so I believed I could eat anything, such as white bread (4 or more slices a day), a lot of sugar, a lot of bad fats, etc. After my grandma died from all sorts of heart trouble, I've been interested in a low-carb, low-gi diet. I mean, I think there are foods that can improve condition of skin, and foods that can make it look pretty shitty. One week all I did was smoke and drink, and ate some sugary cereal, and it looked sallow, dry, and I broke out. However, I really haven't done any 'real' research, which I know I should do. I actually would hope someone could direct me to literature or articles so I can make a sound decision.

By the way, Modest Mouse's latest CD was good. Just because it was more commercialized and main-stream than its past CDs doesn't mean that they didn't hit gold once more.

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Nope, their latest sucked compared to "Lonesome Crowded West" or any of the others.

Eating sugar has no connection to diabetes -- obesity is the biggest contributor.

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Eating sugar has no connection to diabetes.


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These are not steps, but stages some people progress through when going from conventional to holistic medicine. Stage 2 is how I became 99%+ Clear, eliminated my dysmennorhea, significantly reduced my sebum & pore size, etc & is my predominant method.

Stage 1 (Treatment):

* (Daily) Isocare Skin Control Cleanser, Dream Products Customized Natural Face Lotion & Coppertone Sport Spray Sunscreen (mixed)

* (Sporadically) spot treat w/ anti-inflammatory (neosporin, hydrocortisone, salicylic acid) or a skin lightener (post-inflammatory pigmentation) to treat stubborn cystic/nodular acne that appears due to unknowingly or knowingly ingesting a food/ingredient that breaks me out (I do my best to avoid these foods). If you cover treated area w/ a bandaid, it makes product more effective.

Stage 2 (Prevention): "cheapest" method ~ Since Aug. 2002

* Follow a Gluten-Free, Trans-Fat Free, Dairy-Free and No Added Sugar diet for my Insulin Resistance/Hyperandrogenism (Silent Chronic Inflammatory Syndrome)

* Avoid ALL types of nuts and the Genus Prunus (almonds, plums, peaches, nectarines, apricots, cherries), Bananas, Pineapples, Cottonseed oil, Artificial Sweetners.

Stage 3 (Correction):

* Strengthen/Repair GI - Immune health

Research:

* Developing functional foods for those with acne & other special needs (assuming there's a defficiency).

* Developing good & "safe" formulas for various hormonal issues for women. Correction stage may resolve this for some.


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Darling, just listen to Sweet JAde lol!! wink.gif She's the most intelligent... logical... scientific.. and knowledgable user I've ever seen.

Oh yea and fuckin helpful too... look she even gets different links for you to go to...... SweetJade... i'm not a person who sucks up at all but you know what... i'm glad we have people like you on this board to guide those like me and darlingclemente.

@DArling, my own experience, drinkin like 5-7 bottles water per day makes huge difference and cutting out things with lots of sugar like donoughts, pepsi... coke.... cookies and stuff like that bettered my skin however i didn't go crazy aobut this whole bread/rice/dairy stuff because dairy and bread are essential food in my life and i just have nothin to replace them with so i continue eating them at least for breakfast everyday sometime even for snack.

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SweetJade and everyone else: thank you so much for your insight. You really are extensive in your replies SweetJade, and it is most appreciated.

I think I'm goind to do more reading and decide what is best for me, and make a gradual change. I need to buy one of those indoor mini-grills. But yea, I'll keep you guys updated with how things go.

Thank you!

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