Posted 04 November 2002 - 02:32 PM
Posted 08 November 2002 - 02:49 PM
ps. this really isn't at all hard to do but mind you that you are penetrating your epidermis with a metal object, something that doctors are paid to do (so expensively too!) Just make double sure your needle is sanitized. Rinse it in hot/boiled water.
Posted 08 November 2002 - 02:55 PM
Posted 08 November 2002 - 05:57 PM
It is slightly painful when you pierce your normal skin. As far as piercing your scars, it doens't hurt at all. I guese it is because there is no nerve tissue where your scars are. I did this procedure on this region on my forehead that had a wierd shaped redish scar. It did hurt in certain parts of the scar. Now that i look at the area its 3 scars now. The reason it hurt is because i pierced the good skin between the scars which seemed to be apart of the scar. I guesed the scars pulled the skin around it down unleveling it also. A few days after doin this to myself i regreted doin it because the scared areas seem to be more noticeable. They were inflamed with redness. But after a couple of days the redness started to go away. Now i look at the area. Its more leveled and the scars are more defined. Like i want to do this again but patience is key. So wait a week to 2 weeks between each procedure. Let the skin heal is important. I can't wait to see the results next time but im definetly am not looking forward to the week after doin it. I think using Elicina and/or Complex-C or any other skin promoting topical solution will give you the best results. I put Complex-C after i take a shower, since that's the recommended time to do it. You feel a gentle burn on the regions you rub it on. Then Before i go to bed and when i wake up i apply Elicina. Next time i do this im goin to get a thiner needle so i can poke more holes. I hope this helps, be safe, i recommend you try doin this on a scar that is not so noticeable just for practice.
Posted 08 November 2002 - 06:15 PM
Posted 08 November 2002 - 06:55 PM
Posted 09 November 2002 - 12:40 AM
Posted 09 November 2002 - 09:52 AM
I hope that it turns out well for you. Yes, please keep us posted about what you do to heal them and how long it takes.
I am supposed to have ONE of my more hidden (near the hairline) scars done next Saturday by my friend. It's just going to be a little test to see how my skin responds to it and to see how/if it works for me. I'll keep you posted too.
Posted 09 November 2002 - 10:54 AM
Good luck, keep us posted..
Posted 09 November 2002 - 11:35 AM
I did look a bit of a sight this morning in the aerobics class, but told people it was a bit of sunburn from som holiday..
Yes, MC - I do appreciate that I will need to do this several times - once a month is the most it should be done I have heard.
I have this amazing Vitamin C serum - It's made by Jason Cosmetics - ingredients:Complete Vitamin C complex 10% (Ester C liquid, calcium, sodim and zinc ascorbate, magnesium, Vitamin E (Tocopheryl Acetate), Green tea extract, Grape seed Extract, Vitamin A (Retynl Palmitate) ...and some other stuff - now, this is excellent for healing as all the ingredients boost collagen and protects the skin so well. I bought it in England and it cost me around Â£25. But it says it is made in California - no website details I'm afraid.
Will keep you all updated.
Posted 09 November 2002 - 12:02 PM
Posted 09 November 2002 - 12:16 PM
He told me that it needs at least 1 month in between needling sessions and that you need to apply Vit C and A cream before and after for better healing. He suggested using Retina A for 3 weeks before and after treatment (but I don't want to use that) so I bought my own stuff which is really good.
Even though the scabs on the skin surfae have healed, I suspect the underlying skin tissues will take longer - also, the collagen takes some time for it to come to the surface.
I suggest you wait a while - don't overdo it, or you may make things worse.
Posted 09 November 2002 - 04:06 PM
This sounds very promising! Thanks mc for sharing the at home way to do this!
You guys keep posting with an update, I'm starting to get very very interested!
Posted 10 November 2002 - 09:47 AM
When i woke up this morning, i checked my face to look at how my scars were doing. My biggest scar formed some type of clear hard surface. You can't notice it by looking at it but only if you feel it. It felt like a scab but it certainly didn't look like one. It looked like normal skin. I guese this is just a sign that my skin is working to rebuild itself. I also applied %30 glycolic acid 2 days ago. I don't know if its because of that, or that it helped but i checked my other scars and they didn't form such a scab. I must honestly say that so far i am really pleased with the results. I changed my mind about doin it again this week. Instead i will do it the 2nd weekend of december. That'll be about 1 month from my last procedure.
Posted 10 November 2002 - 10:22 AM
I'm glad you are waiting the month to perform needling again. Better be safe.
Sounds like yours have improved quite well - I think I need to wait a week before I can say what percentage of improvement there has been.
By the way - have you checked the healthboard recently? I asked Yumi for an update - AND his scars have come back - he puts it down to him using too many facial scrubs - he said that the scabbing process is very important and not to try to heal them too quickly. I am a bit confused now.
Posted 10 November 2002 - 05:12 PM
I just want to say good luck to everybody and anybody treating this since my honest to Jesus dream is that acne and especially acne scars can eventually become a disease of the past, but this seems like another one of those passing fads, much like saline injections (haven't heard about those in awhile).
Please, I know it sucks, but what's just remember: you're sticking a needle into your skin to the point where you bleed and scab.
Posted 10 November 2002 - 05:32 PM
Anyways, just to let ppl know. The redness is receeding and the skin over my scar is rough, like a scab but it doesn't look like a scab. It's just clear. I am sure to apply my Complex-C and Elicina to further help my skin's regeneration process. I will replace the use of both with this new product called Scar Fx and Neova's Night Therapy with Copper Peptides once i get them wednesday. Scar Fx also contains Copper Peptides plus a bunch of other stuff.
Copper peptides are have week bonds. Copper peptides have been known to loose their regeneration abilities when combined with certain lotions and creams.
Posted 11 November 2002 - 12:08 PM
Hope you are going well MC!
Where are you based? and how old are you? Are you female?
Me - female, 39, asian origin but been in the UK all my life.