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#41 SteveLewis

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 01:50 PM

QUOTE(deville @ Nov 14 2004, 10:32 AM)
Hey Good luck chikin...hope it works for you as well as it works for me.
I started gettin a zit on my chin last night (oh, I can tell when the suckers are coming)...so I slept with a cotton pad on it all night...I peeled it off in the morning, and overnight, the zit had drained into a whitehead!!  How great is that??  So now I'm sitting here disinfecting it...so much time we acne sufferers spend on our faces!!  But, for me, it's worth it...I've never seen my skin heal so fast...all of my past zits have basically healed now, and the ones I started treating with epsom salts barely leave any red marks...it's just the past red marks from before that are still lingering.

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I love how the salts feel when you use them as a scrub and they leave your face tight afterwards but not uncomfortably tight like certain things do. As a toner, however, it didn't work for me, I guess it's ok if you wash it right off but leaving the salts on gives me an odd sensation along with a lot of salt residue on my face and a dry feeling.

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 05:54 PM

Well day 2 and my skin is looking really good! Just hoping this isnt a rare patch of no acne smile.gif

I don't mind the salt residue, obviously I'm not out and about in public or at work with crusty salt over my face tongue.gif I mean looking at the results the epsom salts have shown me so far in 2 days, is a little odd sensation, crusty salt and the effort of sticking sheets of tissue paper to my face is worth it? HELL YES!

I do feel like the biggest gimp with a face covered in wet tissues, and I got some funny comments from the rest of the family last night heh, but if it works it's all worth it to me smile.gif

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 07:41 PM

QUOTE(chikin @ Nov 14 2004, 11:54 PM)
Well day 2 and my skin is looking really good! Just hoping this isnt a rare patch of no acne smile.gif

I don't mind the salt residue, obviously I'm not out and about in public or at work with crusty salt over my face tongue.gif I mean looking at the results the epsom salts have shown me so far in 2 days, is a little odd sensation, crusty salt and the effort of sticking sheets of tissue paper to my face is worth it? HELL YES!

I do feel like the biggest gimp with a face covered in wet tissues, and I got some funny comments from the rest of the family last night heh, but if it works it's all worth it to me smile.gif

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Hey Chikin...that sounds really awesome, I know what you mean about walking around with weird stuff on your face in front of the family - I've tried so many things that mine don't even ask anymore...and the salt/cotton pad/tissue paper covered face must the weirdest thing they've ever seen!! My mom did a double take last night when she saw me coming out of the bathroom lol.gif
Now that my acne is fading, and the inflammation, and redness has gone down...I have some bad news to report...now I can see tiny little scars which I did not see before. I thought that my skin did not scar, but I guess I've never seen it really clear before...and now that it is becoming clear, I can see for sure that I've got a few permanently enlarged pores on either side of my face (which are pretty noticeable since I have very fine and non-porous skin)...and about two deeper scars on my left cheek as well as about 4 deeper scars on my right cheek (a cheek that has always for some reason broken out more??)...I'm a little bummed, cause I thought that all I had to do was get rid of the acne, but now I see that it has permanently left its marks on my cheeks. I still have a couple patches of red marks left (they are taking sooo long to go away -it's been about 2 months now!), and I hope that there is no permanent scarring which will become visible once those fade sad.gif
Well, I'm still extremely happy with my progress, as a few scars are better than a face full of zits...and I still can't believe that I was slathering my face with chemicals which were less successfull than this at controlling my acne.

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 10:16 PM

Wow, I have just read all the entries here about this new regimen. Sounds quite effective in eliminate acnes. I have moderate acne and perhaps i should try this out and keep all of you updated. Which one is better? Epsom salt solution or vinegar? I have very sensitive face.

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Posted 14 November 2004 - 10:54 PM

QUOTE(lushgal @ Nov 15 2004, 04:16 AM)
Wow, I have just read all the entries here about this new regimen. Sounds quite effective in eliminate acnes. I have moderate acne and perhaps i should try this out and keep all of you updated. Which one is better? Epsom salt solution or vinegar? I have very sensitive face.

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What do you mean by which one is better?? We're all using the epsom salt solution, while some people (like me) mix in vinegar + tea tree oil with water in a wash basin and rinse with that in the morning - ph balancer.
If you mean the vinegar method - which is basically leaving on the vinegar solution to get rid of scars...since you have a sensitive face, I would not recommend leaving it on - it stings!! Even diluted, it's pretty potent stuff...it works like any other acid - like glycolic/salycic.
Give the salts a try, they will calm down any breakouts really quickly...like mine were basically annhiliated within a couple of days.

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 01:07 AM

Hey ukochana, I've been using the cotton pads for about 5 days now, and have really liked the results so far. I did break out in one area, but it's probably just the salt bringing everything up. I was wondering how long it took for you to get comfortable enough to stop using the cotton pads, and just use the salts as a scrub and toner. thanks.

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 08:01 AM

QUOTE(lllynch @ Nov 15 2004, 01:07 AM)
Hey ukochana, I've been using the cotton pads for about 5 days now, and have really liked the results so far.  I did break out in one area, but it's probably just the salt bringing everything up.  I was wondering how long it took for you to get comfortable enough to stop using the cotton pads, and just use the salts as a scrub and toner.  thanks.

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Hey lllynch,
I'm glad you're having results...just stick with it, cause at the beginning it will bring up all of the existing acne to the surface.
It took me quite a long time to finally get everything under control in my cheek area...so while everything was nice and clear everywhere else, it took me a couple of weeks of non stop cotton pads on my cheeks to finally get them under control. As long as you're getting active acne in any area, you should use the epsom salts overnight on them using the pads, as you don't want the infection spreading. Everywhere else, you can just use it as a toner.
In hindsight, I also think that exfoliation was one of the things which prevented new zits from cropping up - as I would use the epsom salts in the morning as a scrub. I've also read on the board that a lot of people are having great luck with baking soda as an exfoliant, as long as it's neutralised with vinegar (base + acid = ph balanced skin!). So you might want to look into that as an option, from my experience, baking soda is really great at getting all the annoying flakies off - and then you can use the epsom salts in conjunction with that at night. The key is experimenting to see what works for you.
Also, are you using the washbasin rinse w/ tea tree oil...cause I think tea tree oil is really important with active acne - so either spot treat with it, or use it as a face splash to kill the bacteria. Just make sure that the tea tree oil has a guaranteed amount of terpinen - over 30%, as that's the stuff that kills bacteria.
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Posted 15 November 2004 - 06:14 PM

Hey thanx for the tip ukochana, I used baking soda and it's super gentle and really works at getting rid of dry skin...I got another whitehead today, it cropped up from a spot that looked suspiciously like a new zit forming...I'm so paranoid...but it's gone now, and face is starting to look really healthy actually. Although I am more and more certain that my past red marks are going to leave small indents - as they are fading, and I am starting to see that there are underlying indentations which are not going away cry.gif
It's ok, a little bit of Living Nature's vitalising toner, and everything looks much more even and toned:)
If I don't break out within the next couple of days, then I'll know that this regimen is working, and it's not just a clear interval for me.





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Posted 15 November 2004 - 10:36 PM

Hrm just as I was having really good results I woke up today with it really bad sad.gif I'm gonna go back on the BP, might still use the epsom salts as an exfoliator every couple of days as thats what I felt I was missing.

Have a look here -

http://www.acne.org/...showtopic=35580

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Posted 15 November 2004 - 11:04 PM

Has anybody experienced fine lines or wrinkles from leaving the epsom salts on all night? Do you leave the white salt all over your face, even where you don't have cotton pads applied?
This is the third night I've used the epsom salts, but so far I've only kept the salt and pads on for about 2 hrs. and then I rinse because I'm scared if I leave it on all night it will dry my face to the point of appearing damaged/ wrinkly.
Also, while it did take care of the pustule faster than normal, I haven't really noticed any difference with the other parts of my face, except that my skin feels softer. I have alot of flesh-colored bumps and smallish pimples that I'm hoping the salts will take care of, in addition to the bigger acne. Patience. eusa_wall.gif

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Posted 16 November 2004 - 05:45 AM

I left the salty stuff all over my face all night, didnt experience anything bad.

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Posted 16 November 2004 - 10:22 AM

Hey Chikin,
I'm so disappointed to hear that you broke out without bp cry.gif
I always felt that bp was like an addiction, it kills all the bacteria and zits, so you feel pretty good going without it for a while...and then bam! The zits are back again, cause p. acnes has returned with a vengeance and it's back to bp again. I went cold turkey though, like I just gave up bp as well as retin-a...and decided to go the holistic route. It was tough, and I did break out, but my skin did finally get under control with natural antibacterials like tea tree and epsom salts - the only downside is that it takes time, and I know how hard it is when there's all these social events to go to...people to meet...to date...to want to be zit free like immediately!
So I wish you luck, and hopefully you can integrate the epsom salts into your bp regimen, as they'll help you heal the new eruptions...and who knows?? maybe one day you'll be able to ditch bp for good.



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Posted 16 November 2004 - 03:24 PM

bp's not really like an addiction....with an addiction you physically and mentally crave whatever you're addicted to (believe me, i've been addicted to plenty of stuff). i have never craved bp...it just works really well. sometimes i wish it didn't work so well because it's kind of a pain in the ass to do the regimen.

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Posted 17 November 2004 - 01:02 AM

Hey ukochana, I recenlty got 2 bumps that surfaced and haven't formed a head yet. I have been applying the pads to them for 3 days now. I was wondering if you have ever gotten these before and if I should keep applying the pads to them. Is there anything else I can do to make them go down? I think they may be small cysts, but not sure. Oh, and they surfaced right after I first used the tea tree wash. Maybe a bad reaction?

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Posted 17 November 2004 - 09:05 AM

Hello...just wanted to update my progress...well, my skin looks the clearest that it has ever looked in years...I mean, I can actually see my natural skin tone!! All of my spots/red marks have really begun fading away. That said, I did get a large and sore pimple yesterday morning and it wouldn't come to a head with the epsom salts...but I kept on applying tea tree oil on it...and after a few hours, it was ready...ok, it was a big 'explosion' (eehhww, I know). But I applied epsom salts on it overnight, and it's turned into a tiny little scab (love those healing powers). But for the good news - I actually had my friends complimenting how great my skin looked (they're used to seeing me covered in red spots), and even my mom asked me what I was using, and to keep on using it!!
So, after a lot of experimenting, here is my regimen:

Morning:
No cleanser, scrub with epsom salts
Rinse w/ water mixed w/ vinegar, 3 drops of tea tree oil
Moisturize w/ Living Nature Vitalising Toner

Night:
Mix Cetaphil oily skin cleanser w/ Baking soda - gently scrub for abt. 1 minute
Rinse with water, then rinse with water mixed w/ vinegar & tea tree (balance ph)
Moisturize w/ Living Nature Manuka Honey & oil gel
Apply epsom pads to any active acnes/healing red patches - no more active acnes!! Just a few healing spots, and red marks!!!

Additional Treatments:
Every few days I will use an egg white mask mixed w/ a squeeze of lemon - been doing this for years, and it really helps w/ smoothing skin.
Every week or so I will also apply a clay based mask or Milk of Magnesia

I think the reason I experienced no serious breakouts after quitting bp, is because of the tea tree & manuka products that I have been using, granted, they don't kill off the bacteria as successfully as bp did, but they don't harm my skin either - and I heal much more quickly now!!

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 07:18 PM

Just wanted to say that Epsom Salts are GREAT!!!!!!!!! I've never had my skin this clear! I've also been adding some tea tree oil to my cleanser and mix it around before i wash my face every nite, and that seems to be helping as well. Thanx everyone for all u'r input...it really helped me a lot!!!!

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 07:27 PM

Hey lllynch,
Sorry for not replying, I've been very busy. I got a couple of those at the beginning, but they just went away without forming a head. Maybe the skin is just adjusting to a new regime?? Tea tree oil works really well on the ones that don't want to come to a head, and while it takes longer than bp to heal the lesion, it rarely leaves any scars/red marks.

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Posted 19 November 2004 - 08:55 PM

I've been lurking more often than posting here, and I decided to try the epsom salts. They work. I still use bp, but I've switched to a lower concentration (5%) and only use it once a day.

My revised regimen:

Morning:
wash with a cetaphil knock-off cleanser (walmart brand)
scrub very gently with a mixture of baking soda and epsom salts. the salts alone disintegrated in my wet hands and were just too hard to work with. the baking soda helps to exfoliate, and helps bind the salts or something.
rinse
dry face by patting with a towel
apply acv (slightly diluted)
apply some bp, but not as much as before
apply eucerin daily facial moisturizer (with AHA)

it sounds like a lot, but i only spend a few seconds at most using the epsom salt/baking soda scrub and much less time applying bp.

Evening:
shower, wash face with cleanser
while in shower, scrub for a few seconds
rinse
dry
apply acv, let dry
apply premade epsom salt solution, let dry on face

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Posted 20 November 2004 - 08:51 AM

Hello Everyone...well, it's been a couple of days since I last posted...and I currently have zero active acne!! Yay!!!!! Not even a whitehead has popped up with my current regime. I think the combination of exfoliation (baking soda & epsom salts), disinfection (tea tree & manuka), healing (epsom compresses) as well as ph balancing (vinegar rinses) totally keeps the bacteria from invading my skin. I can actually look in the mirror without cringing...and the hyperpigmentation marks are on their way out! I also have to hand it to Living Nature...they make amazing gels...they take a while to work, but boy, when they start working...I've never seen my skin heal so quickly or look this good!!
I put on some concealer yesterday, and it looked like I had perfect skin...seriously, my parents and friends can't believe it. I'll keep on posting until I no longer have to wear concealer (my longtime goal in life...can you imagine??)...but good luck to everyone here...you really have to tailor the regime to suit your skin type (mine has to have lots and lots of exfoliation cause I shed skin like crazy!!), and then just have patience. Thanks ukochana for all your tips...really, really helped me in achieveing the acne free skin that I've dreamed of for years.

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Posted 20 November 2004 - 10:37 PM

Deville, what brand of tea tree oil do you use, and where do you get it? Is there something you should look for in a brand to determine if it's quality?