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Posted 27 August 2014 - 04:13 AM

I just looked into the DIM Detox formula... apparently it has a lot of other ingredients including CDG. It also looks like it focuses on liver support (hence the name) since it also contains things like NAC, ALA, and milk thistle. Here's a link to the source: http://www.pureencap.../dim-detox.html
 
I've read mixed stories on CDG (calcium-d-glucarate) — some women have success with it while others don't (just like any supplement though, I guess.) Did your doctor look at all the ingredients before telling you that it was okay to take while pregnant? I don't know much about it but I thought CDG wasn't safe during pregnancy... I am also still convinced that DIM shouldn't be taken while pregnant either, since it's directly influencing your hormones and is an anti-androgen.
 
If you can handle all of the ingredients, it looks like a pretty good supplement but it's quite expensive. I would be worried to take it personally because there is so much in it... I wouldn't know which ingredient was causing side effects if any. I'm glad it works for you though, LeksiBabi! (:
 
By the way, I get liver support from l-cysteine (NAC is a product of l-cysteine) because I do drink. I wonder if this helped at all while I was on DIM. Something else to think about!


I didn't know DIM was an anti-androgen is that right?

Also is it better for a DIM supplement to contain all those other ingredients like CDG and milk thistle?

The reason I ask is just because I take a supplement which contains 80mg DIM and that song with skin care helped my severe acne. But more recently things have slowly got worse, namely after ovulation and all throughout my second phase of my menstrual cycle..I am considering purchasing this DIM detox but am so dubious because I've spent so much money on stuff that doesn't work...it's like going out on a limb for me before asking about RoaccutAne.

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Posted 27 August 2014 - 06:13 PM

I wonder if I'm missing a liver support? hearts, why did you choose l-cysteine instead of NAC? I think I've read good things about NAC for PCOS, is that correct?

I just looked into the DIM Detox formula... apparently it has a lot of other ingredients including CDG. It also looks like it focuses on liver support (hence the name) since it also contains things like NAC, ALA, and milk thistle. Here's a link to the source: http://www.pureencap.../dim-detox.html

 

I've read mixed stories on CDG (calcium-d-glucarate) — some women have success with it while others don't (just like any supplement though, I guess.) Did your doctor look at all the ingredients before telling you that it was okay to take while pregnant? I don't know much about it but I thought CDG wasn't safe during pregnancy... I am also still convinced that DIM shouldn't be taken while pregnant either, since it's directly influencing your hormones and is an anti-androgen.

 

If you can handle all of the ingredients, it looks like a pretty good supplement but it's quite expensive. I would be worried to take it personally because there is so much in it... I wouldn't know which ingredient was causing side effects if any. I'm glad it works for you though, LeksiBabi! (:

 

By the way, I get liver support from l-cysteine (NAC is a product of l-cysteine) because I do drink. I wonder if this helped at all while I was on DIM. Something else to think about!



How long have you been clear on 80mgs of DIM MissSac17? Perhaps you just need to increase your dose?

I just looked into the DIM Detox formula... apparently it has a lot of other ingredients including CDG. It also looks like it focuses on liver support (hence the name) since it also contains things like NAC, ALA, and milk thistle. Here's a link to the source: http://www.pureencap.../dim-detox.html
 
I've read mixed stories on CDG (calcium-d-glucarate) — some women have success with it while others don't (just like any supplement though, I guess.) Did your doctor look at all the ingredients before telling you that it was okay to take while pregnant? I don't know much about it but I thought CDG wasn't safe during pregnancy... I am also still convinced that DIM shouldn't be taken while pregnant either, since it's directly influencing your hormones and is an anti-androgen.
 
If you can handle all of the ingredients, it looks like a pretty good supplement but it's quite expensive. I would be worried to take it personally because there is so much in it... I wouldn't know which ingredient was causing side effects if any. I'm glad it works for you though, LeksiBabi! (:
 
By the way, I get liver support from l-cysteine (NAC is a product of l-cysteine) because I do drink. I wonder if this helped at all while I was on DIM. Something else to think about!


I didn't know DIM was an anti-androgen is that right?

Also is it better for a DIM supplement to contain all those other ingredients like CDG and milk thistle?

The reason I ask is just because I take a supplement which contains 80mg DIM and that song with skin care helped my severe acne. But more recently things have slowly got worse, namely after ovulation and all throughout my second phase of my menstrual cycle..I am considering purchasing this DIM detox but am so dubious because I've spent so much money on stuff that doesn't work...it's like going out on a limb for me before asking about RoaccutAne.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:47 AM

I wonder if I'm missing a liver support? hearts, why did you choose l-cysteine instead of NAC? I think I've read good things about NAC for PCOS, is that correct?

 

Maybe! It's difficult to say. I think NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) or l-cysteine would be beneficial to anyone (unless you have cystinuria, a genetic disorder where supplementing with cysteine forms kidney stones.) In PCOS, it can help with insulin sensitivity and resistance! (:

 

I can't remember why I chose l-cysteine over NAC... I think at the time I read about a particular benefit of it over NAC, but I can't for the life of me remember and it was quite a while ago. I'll keep trying to remember, haha! NAC is generally considered the better of the two supplements, it is supposedly better absorbed, etc. I've taken l-cysteine for several years without a single problem, only good results. My boyfriend takes it when we drink too, and hasn't had any problems either. Maybe I should switch to NAC but I don't really feel the need to at this time.

 

Here is a link with some of the benefits of NAC/l-cysteine. It amazes me when I read about all that it can do. Along with preventing hangovers and detoxing the liver, it helps my nails and hair grow. I read that some Asians take it to "brighten" their skin, and I have even read that it has anti-aging properties/effects like improving collagen and getting rid of age spots.

 

I didn't know DIM was an anti-androgen is that right?


Also is it better for a DIM supplement to contain all those other ingredients like CDG and milk thistle?

The reason I ask is just because I take a supplement which contains 80mg DIM and that song with skin care helped my severe acne. But more recently things have slowly got worse, namely after ovulation and all throughout my second phase of my menstrual cycle..I am considering purchasing this DIM detox but am so dubious because I've spent so much money on stuff that doesn't work...it's like going out on a limb for me before asking about RoaccutAne.

 

Yep, it sure is! Check out this study.

 

I think whether or not it's better to have those other ingredients as well really depends on the person. Like I said, some women break out from CDG while others don't, etc. I took l-cysteine to help with detoxing my liver (while on DIM) but not specifically for my skin... I'm not sure if it helped clear my skin or not.

 

What brand DIM do you take now? brenmc has a good point, you might want to try upping the dose before spending money on a different supplement. Also, it's important that you get adequate amounts of other nutrients to support hormonal health especially during stressful times!


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 01:15 PM

Interesting hearts, thanks. If you've been taking this along with DIM, perhaps that's the key to your success? I've read of people taking liver support with DIM in several places but I have been too nervous to add anything else at this stage. However, I'm now thinking I might need to add NAC to see the full benefits of DIM?
Have you read or seen anything about NAC causing an initial breakout, I know liver detoxes can do so? What about taking NAC with inositol, would that be too much change to my glucose metabolism?
Thanks!

I wonder if I'm missing a liver support? hearts, why did you choose l-cysteine instead of NAC? I think I've read good things about NAC for PCOS, is that correct?

 
Maybe! It's difficult to say. I think NAC (N-acetyl-cysteine) or l-cysteine would be beneficial to anyone (unless you have cystinuria, a genetic disorder where supplementing with cysteine forms kidney stones.) In PCOS, it can help with insulin sensitivity and resistance! (:
 
I can't remember why I chose l-cysteine over NAC... I think at the time I read about a particular benefit of it over NAC, but I can't for the life of me remember and it was quite a while ago. I'll keep trying to remember, haha! NAC is generally considered the better of the two supplements, it is supposedly better absorbed, etc. I've taken l-cysteine for several years without a single problem, only good results. My boyfriend takes it when we drink too, and hasn't had any problems either. Maybe I should switch to NAC but I don't really feel the need to at this time.
 
Here is a link with some of the benefits of NAC/l-cysteine. It amazes me when I read about all that it can do. Along with preventing hangovers and detoxing the liver, it helps my nails and hair grow. I read that some Asians take it to "brighten" their skin, and I have even read that it has anti-aging properties/effects like improving collagen and getting rid of age spots.
 

I didn't know DIM was an anti-androgen is that right?

Also is it better for a DIM supplement to contain all those other ingredients like CDG and milk thistle?
The reason I ask is just because I take a supplement which contains 80mg DIM and that song with skin care helped my severe acne. But more recently things have slowly got worse, namely after ovulation and all throughout my second phase of my menstrual cycle..I am considering purchasing this DIM detox but am so dubious because I've spent so much money on stuff that doesn't work...it's like going out on a limb for me before asking about RoaccutAne.

 
Yep, it sure is! Check out this study.
 
I think whether or not it's better to have those other ingredients as well really depends on the person. Like I said, some women break out from CDG while others don't, etc. I took l-cysteine to help with detoxing my liver (while on DIM) but not specifically for my skin... I'm not sure if it helped clear my skin or not.
 
What brand DIM do you take now? brenmc has a good point, you might want to try upping the dose before spending money on a different supplement. Also, it's important that you get adequate amounts of other nutrients to support hormonal health especially during stressful times!


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 03:06 PM

Interesting hearts, thanks. If you've been taking this along with DIM, perhaps that's the key to your success? I've read of people taking liver support with DIM in several places but I have been too nervous to add anything else at this stage. However, I'm now thinking I might need to add NAC to see the full benefits of DIM?
Have you read or seen anything about NAC causing an initial breakout, I know liver detoxes can do so? What about taking NAC with inositol, would that be too much change to my glucose metabolism?
Thanks!

 

Yeah, I'm really not sure if it helped at all or not. I took it before DIM and it didn't affect my skin. If it made me break out (like an initial breakout) I would have stopped taking it. I don't think NAC/l-cysteine has "detox" side effects, at least it didn't for me. I take 500mg daily, but I think you can take up to 1600mg or something. Maybe if you take high doses you can experience detox symptoms.

 

I'm not sure if continuing to take l-cysteine post DIM is helping me keep on track, either! When I forget to take it I don't see a difference in my skin (no breakouts.)

 

I think you're right about not adding anything else at this point... it's too early to know if DIM alone will be enough. If at 4 months it's still not helping then you could add it as a last test with DIM. Though I think NAC/l-cysteine is awesome, how each individual reacts to each supplement is a mystery until they try it.

 

You might want to read this article about how NAC acts similarly to Metformin for women with PCOS. This is another article on the subject. 

Here is a thread on Soul Cysters where a few women mention that they take both inositol and NAC together. Please note post #14 on there... she ditched metformin and spiro and feels much better on the other supplements! (: Here is another thread specifically about the subject. I also took inositol and l-cysteine together without a problem, well, except for the weight gain but I don't think that's because I was taking l-cysteine.

 

Hope that helps! (:


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 03:47 PM

Thanks hearts, this is very helpful. I appreciate the links very much. Interestingly, commenter 15 (in the same link you referred to commenter 14) claims that NAC helped clear up her acne. However, the comment about spotting concerns me because I already have a big problem with that. I’m not entirely sure I would wait a full four months to try NAC, maybe I should just opt for taking a low dose a couple times a week, for added detoxifying benefits? Or would that variable dose mess things up even more? I hope I’ll have good results once I’ve been on a lower dose (and eventually off) of spiro soon as well! smile.png

 

Interesting hearts, thanks. If you've been taking this along with DIM, perhaps that's the key to your success? I've read of people taking liver support with DIM in several places but I have been too nervous to add anything else at this stage. However, I'm now thinking I might need to add NAC to see the full benefits of DIM?
Have you read or seen anything about NAC causing an initial breakout, I know liver detoxes can do so? What about taking NAC with inositol, would that be too much change to my glucose metabolism?
Thanks!

 

Yeah, I'm really not sure if it helped at all or not. I took it before DIM and it didn't affect my skin. If it made me break out (like an initial breakout) I would have stopped taking it. I don't think NAC/l-cysteine has "detox" side effects, at least it didn't for me. I take 500mg daily, but I think you can take up to 1600mg or something. Maybe if you take high doses you can experience detox symptoms.

 

I'm not sure if continuing to take l-cysteine post DIM is helping me keep on track, either! When I forget to take it I don't see a difference in my skin (no breakouts.)

 

I think you're right about not adding anything else at this point... it's too early to know if DIM alone will be enough. If at 4 months it's still not helping then you could add it as a last test with DIM. Though I think NAC/l-cysteine is awesome, how each individual reacts to each supplement is a mystery until they try it.

 

You might want to read this article about how NAC acts similarly to Metformin for women with PCOS. This is another article on the subject. 

Here is a thread on Soul Cysters where a few women mention that they take both inositol and NAC together. Please note post #14 on there... she ditched metformin and spiro and feels much better on the other supplements! (: Here is another thread specifically about the subject. I also took inositol and l-cysteine together without a problem, well, except for the weight gain but I don't think that's because I was taking l-cysteine.

 

Hope that helps! (:


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Posted 29 August 2014 - 01:05 AM

Well its a supplement called Accumax..contains Vit A/C/E and Bioresponse DIM. I get 80mg of DIM taking 4 capsule per day..they are expensive though and don't really wanna take 6 per day.

I'm starting to worry incase its having a negative effect..I've heard ovee time it could increase testosterone? I don't know if that's true and can't remember where I saw it! But I was considering buying a different kind of DIM which may be a cheaper alternative to what I take now.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 09:57 AM

Thanks hearts, this is very helpful. I appreciate the links very much. Interestingly, commenter 15 (in the same link you referred to commenter 14) claims that NAC helped clear up her acne. However, the comment about spotting concerns me because I already have a big problem with that. I’m not entirely sure I would wait a full four months to try NAC, maybe I should just opt for taking a low dose a couple times a week, for added detoxifying benefits? Or would that variable dose mess things up even more? I hope I’ll have good results once I’ve been on a lower dose (and eventually off) of spiro soon as well!

 

Yeah, I saw that post... it's interesting that it helped her skin. Everyone's chemistry is so different, which is why it's so difficult to say what will work for someone and what won't!

 

I don't think a variable dose of NAC would hurt anything, but it might not be as effective as taking it consistently.

 

Is there anything that caused you to start spotting or has it always been a problem? Did NPC help with that? I just ask because I would get spotting sometimes when I started hormonal supplements but it wasn't as much of a concern to me as acne was. I resolved it until recently when I quit inositol, which screwed up my cycle again.

 

Well its a supplement called Accumax..contains Vit A/C/E and Bioresponse DIM. I get 80mg of DIM taking 4 capsule per day..they are expensive though and don't really wanna take 6 per day.

I'm starting to worry incase its having a negative effect..I've heard ovee time it could increase testosterone? I don't know if that's true and can't remember where I saw it! But I was considering buying a different kind of DIM which may be a cheaper alternative to what I take now.

 

Is it this supplement? If so I don't see anywhere it says "bio-response." I was also surprised to see that it has fillers like corn starch and sugar. That brand is incredibly expensive! $115 for 120 capsules?! D: That's super overpriced. You can get 80mg of DIM and a daily vitamin for way, way cheaper. No wonder you are discouraged about spending so much money! If I were you I would try a different brand and a multi-vitamin (make sure you get plenty of vitamin D) and see how it goes.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 10:05 AM

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay £55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?

I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 10:26 AM

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay £55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?

I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!

 

Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.c...-supplement.htm

 

I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.


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Posted 04 September 2014 - 03:26 PM

Hi hearts,

The spotting was/is always linked with my times of bad skin rather than one specific acne treatment.

I thought things were improving but I got a new nodule yesterday :(. So far I've been on DIM for a month and have not seen any consistent results. Does it really help with more serious cases such as nodular acne? A lot of the reviews remark on it helping hormonal flare ups and don't mention more extreme cases.

I've added a fourth pill. I'm praying to God this is the finally kick that my skin needs.

That link ain't showing up hearts, but I pay £55 for 120 capsules. I have no idea how to link in a reply, but it deffo says BioResponse DIMon my packet. But yeah I looked up a few brands and I can get a lot more of it in Nature's way? I don't know if anyone has experience with that one. I am just worried that I have took it for almost a year. Is it safe to take long term?
I recently have bought a sup with calcium and vitamin D since I have stopped dairy for the time being, it contains 10mg of zinc too and 300mg of Magnesium so we shall see how this works out!

 
Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.c...-supplement.htm
 
I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.


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Posted 05 September 2014 - 03:09 AM

 
Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.c...-supplement.htm
 
I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.


Yep that is it, but it's not got the bioresponse on it but it does say it on mine..Hmm. also that one is soooooo dear! I pay half that for 120 capsules.

Okay I'm glad Nature's Way helped you, that's the most reasonably priced I have found. But a part of me is wondering how well my liver functioning is.

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Posted 05 September 2014 - 02:40 PM

MissSac17, I wonder if you need to just adjust your dose of DIM? Perhaps you should first try to wean down. Perhaps long-term DIM use has tipped the scales in the other direction, i.e. decreased estrogen too much. I think something similar happened to me with spiro, after long-term use my estrogen became too high, which creates a negative feedback loop and thereby increases acne. From what I've read, a lot of people go down to a maintenance dose on DIM, which likely helps prevent any new hormonal imbalance.
Just a guess.


 
Weird, let me try to link it again: http://janeiredale.c...-supplement.htm
 
I took Nature's Way DIM Plus for over a year which cleared me up and I had no problems. As far as I know, DIM is safe to take long term unless you are pregnant.

Yep that is it, but it's not got the bioresponse on it but it does say it on mine..Hmm. also that one is soooooo dear! I pay half that for 120 capsules.
Okay I'm glad Nature's Way helped you, that's the most reasonably priced I have found. But a part of me is wondering how well my liver functioning is.


Hi LeksiBabi, I was wondering if you could tell me more information about your friend with more serious acne's experience on this DIM Detox brand?

Hey there. I started breaking out in the winter and it was actually due to my birth control. Instead of regulating my hormones, it was screwing them up. So I went off birth control and my acne drastically improved AND I started taking a supplement called DIM which balances your hormones. My acne was gone within 1-2 months and I was living acne-free with no make-up for 2-3 months.Then, wouldn't ya know it, I became pregnant and BAM, one zit after another. I don't have really bad acne and it only happens on my chin, upper lip area, and rarely my nose and forehead but never on my cheeks or body, so I KNOW it's hormonal. Plus it usually only occurs during those "times of the month" and while I'm in my first few months of pregnancy. Now, I HAVE to wear make-up it's so bad. I feel so embarrassed by my skin and I can't stay on my hormone balancer because it is not safe during pregnancy to alter your hormones in any way. And I would never endanger my unborn child for clear skin. So, this has been like this for a month now. I got a zit or two on my chin or near my mouth, now, I have this rash like whitehead breakout all along my chin and above my mouth near my nose/upper lip. I got maybe a few tiiiiiny little ones on my nose or forehead but they're not noticeable at all. I do feel like my skin is a lot more oily and I haven't been exercising as much because I feel really nauseous from my pregnancy. I try to avoid dairy because it makes me break out but I know it's because of the pregnancy. I've been using lemon juice mixed with witch hazel to cleanse my skin and apply tea tree oil and aloe vera or polysporin to heal the pimples at night and usually every morning. I have been consistent with this but every day I get a new pimple on my chin. It is driving me crazy and I need help NOW! I am going to see my doctor because I can't stand this. What is the best topical treatment you would say that helped you? I want to get something strong but topical, no oral as it's unsafe for pregnancy. I need one that works fast and well on whiteheads and SOME cystic like acne. I only get one or two big pimples at a time, but they're big and annoying and painful and take forever to go away so I need something strong. What is the best treatment you've ever used to get rid of your acne? And please no proactiv users or crap like that, that stuff does not work and it only dries out your skin and makes it worse. I am talking actual topical treatments that have helped you personally. Thanks so much for the help and if you can suggest any tips like things to eat or activities or just basic advice to help to clear my skin!!


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 02:47 AM

Oh goodness really? So you think it's perhaps increasing my Oestrogen?
I'm totally at a loss at what to try to be honest, I am gutted my doctor does not think Accutane is necessary so won't refer me to a derm, when I feel that's what will help me.

I had a look at symptoms of oestrogen dominance, there are a couple things that ring true but not all. I don't usually bloated until a week before my period and I find during that week or even two weeks before it I experience acne symptoms and anxiety...my moods honestly are terrible and they have been getting worse as each month passes, this had been happening since May. Each subsequent month has resulted in me becoming a depressed, suicidal hermit! And I ain't exaggerating.

My moods actually terrify me as I am being more angry now. Is obviously hormonal and am not sure what to do.

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Solgar - Vitamin A - 5000iu. 
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Posted 08 September 2014 - 02:11 PM

MissSac17, before you freak out about not getting on accutane, remember you did say DIM had helped you. Try for one month lowering your DIM dose by half and adding liver support like NAC. Perhaps your liver needs extra support to get rid of excess estrogens. Also, note that lots of people go to a maintenance dose on DIM. I think you should try this but I'm not a doctor, just a 15-year-long-acne-sufferer. This might not work but I think logically it makes sense. If you do try it, keep a journal and update us on this forum.

Oh goodness really? So you think it's perhaps increasing my Oestrogen?
I'm totally at a loss at what to try to be honest, I am gutted my doctor does not think Accutane is necessary so won't refer me to a derm, when I feel that's what will help me.
I had a look at symptoms of oestrogen dominance, there are a couple things that ring true but not all. I don't usually bloated until a week before my period and I find during that week or even two weeks before it I experience acne symptoms and anxiety...my moods honestly are terrible and they have been getting worse as each month passes, this had been happening since May. Each subsequent month has resulted in me becoming a depressed, suicidal hermit! And I ain't exaggerating.
My moods actually terrify me as I am being more angry now. Is obviously hormonal and am not sure what to do.


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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:05 AM

Hey I am not a big fan of medicinal ingredients but there have been no studies linked to birth defects and DIM, including the one I'm taking. I contacted the manufacturer and they assured me that it's ok to take for a few months and only half the minimum dosage. I've only been taking one capsule every other day and my midwife constantly monitors me to make sure everything is ok with me and baby. DIM is natural, so I don't see what harm it will do. I have done my research and I wouldn't take it if I didn't feel it was safe or my doctor advised against it. She told me it was fine as long as I did what the manufacturer said - take only one capsule per day and stop after a few months then go back on for a little after my pregnancy if the acne started back up again.  I don't smoke or drink or do any drugs, never have never will, I am an extremely healthy person I eat well, I take my daily vitamins and I exercise and get sunshine daily. I would think it would be different if I didn't take care of myself so well, but my doctor assured me I would have no problems. In 3 weeks since taking DIM my acne is officially gone. I haven't had one pimple in about a week or more, and my red marks from the previous pimples are fading and my skin is glowing. Thanks for the advice but I am not going to endanger my baby. I am going to stop taking the DIM at the end of the month.



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Posted 15 September 2014 - 09:37 AM

Hey brenmc. Yes I am from Canada. I order mine from epicbeautybar.com. They upped their prices to $42 a bottle but it's so worth it. The shipping is free. It comes from Las Vegas but I usually get my DIM in a few days. This time it only took 5 days from the day I ordered it!

As to your other question, I am not sure what type of acne she had. I don't think it was nodular or cystic, that is more severe. Hers was more of a moderate acne where as mine is mild. I looked those up and apparently I've never even been close to having cystic acne so I don't know why I posted that in this topic lol. I think I was confused as to what it was. But now I know my acne is very mild, so that's probably why the DIM works so fast and well. It is week 3 of taking it and my skin is completely clear, back to normal. No new pimples in over a week, and no new breakouts in over 2 weeks. Right now I'm just trying to keep my skin clean and fade the post acne marks which are just tiny pink marks. Hopefully I can go makeup free again soon! Good luck to you and let me know how everything is going!






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