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If Oil Cleansing And Honey Can Reduce Acne, Is It Just A Superficial Thing?

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#1 Natalie411

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:05 AM

Hi guys,

 

               What are your thoughts about this idea. Many people say that by regualrly massaging with certain oils and washing face with manuka honey in the morning. They have finally managed their acne.

 

Both of these are processes which affect acne to a superficial level. unlike diet.

 

So do they work even without a diet change (ofcourse that would be a plus). If yes, can we conclude that acne can be controlled by what you put on your face alone as well?

 

 


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:31 AM

Interesting question.  I think skin care can control acne but it may not necessarily stop it from coming up unless its designed to like with a retinoid or BP.  I think a healthy diet is great too!  But on the same not, from MY experiences, diet never helped my acne. 

 

 

In regards to non chemical methods, i had a terrible time with them and if your acne is constant (pimples everyday vs once a week), they may not work well.  Many people have broken out so bad with Oil Cleansing so proceed with caution.


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Posted 05 August 2014 - 06:51 AM

it isn't superficial at all. Especially if they use the right oil. It's getting at the root of acne formation.

1) if they are cleansing with oil. Or honey. They aren't using soaps so are not interfering with the skins ability to function. They probably aren't applying any kind of lotion either. The emulsifiers and more occlusive oils like petrolatum also interfere with the skins ability to function.

2) if they use a high linoleic acid content oil, they are making up for a deficiency that acne and other problem prone skinned people have. And improving healthy normal skin function.

BP on the other hand, is treating acne at a superficial level.

 

More info on the skin function I am referring to: http://www.acne.org/...pical-solution/

 

http://www.acne.org/...p-impairing-it/


Edited by alternativista, 06 August 2014 - 12:20 PM.

Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!

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Posted 05 August 2014 - 03:41 PM

Some acne can be fixed at the surface.  Some acne only responds to holistic treatment. Most acne is improved by addressing both.  For example, topical vitamin activity is always enhanced by oral vitamin supplementation and vice versa.  Your skin is an excretory organ, the biggest organ on your body, and the end part of your digestive system the same as your liver/colon and kidneys/bladder are!  

 

Everyone knows that having healthy bowel movements and urination is essential for overall health, removing waste, ensuring nutrients consumed are being processed adequately, and if your urine and bowel movements don't look right, it's a sign of illness or other stress and/or dehydration.  You can take laxatives (or anti-diarrheals,) enemas, diauretics, fiber etc to treat the symptoms of what's making your stool loose, or hard, your urine dark or infrequent, but it's not addressing the reasons why you aren't excreting healthfully- fat intake, acne and stool density are HUGELY correlated.

 

Likewise, your skin is a last-stage indicator of dehydration/poor digestion/nutrition/illness/stress of any sort-- (excess sebum, hard plugs, congested pores and hyperkeratinzation) but that doesn't mean that you can't screw things up on the outside by touching your face a lot or applying cosmetics and cleansers with allergenic ingredients. 

 

What you put in/on is what you get back! 


Edited by Turn0ver, 05 August 2014 - 04:08 PM.

  • Clear Skin and Anxiety Maintenance Routine:
  • Supplements: Shi wei Bei Du Tang (powder by Sun Ten) and the Zhen Zhu An Chuang Pan (tablets by Guang Ci Tang)  both for acne+ other Chinese mood stabilizers. 
  •  20,000IU+ of Vitamin D/day (+ antioxidants and multi with minerals)
  • Diet: Ultra Meal and Orac Energy Greens shakes- no meat, coffee,  dairy, gluten or alcohol
  • Topical: crysanthemum and MSM baths and cleansing with Proactiv Deep and Kavi Coral on Konjac sponge to exfoliate, and Jason Aloe and Tea Tree and Hyaluronic Acid to heal and hydrate. 
  • Lifestyle: 8 hrs sleep, light exercise only, >1hr sun exposure daily, no fluoride toothpastes, no sulfate shampoos, clean shower/pillowcase.




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