Questions For Fredthebelgian About Vit A

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happy to report a string of days without intense oil production. if i go many hours i will feel the need to blot but i dont shine up in reflections like a mofo. i work in television and i was a standup for an interview setup during a lighting test and i had not blotted for maybe 8 hours and the only shine that the PA had to matte on me was on the nose and some on the temples. that is quite promising.

fred - if you were to blot after many hours would you still see a sheet turning clear? would you be willing to do this test? i dont know what is normal.

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I start to become very lightly oily after 6 hours I think, but it's nowhere as bad as it was before the vitamin A days.

It means that you will see a faint stain if I blot.

It's manageable now, I can go out without worrying about it at all.

I'm trying to find a balance, taking as little vitamin A as possible while still benefiting from it.

But I've seen from the studies Jofo posted that vitamin A may not be as dangerous as we think. Thanks for posting it :).


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Jofo, what would your opinion be on this Vitamin A supplement? http://www.nowfoods.com/Vitamin-A-25000-IU-100-Softgels.htm

I'm just about to start taking them, was wondering if I should be worried about anything?

Thanks a lot

That's the brand that I'm taking (except mine is 10,000 IU per pill), and it's also the exact supplement that FredTheBelgian said he has been using for a couple of years with no side effects. I emailed Now Foods and they said that it is 100% fish oil sourced Vitamin A, not synthetic. So I think it's a pretty safe bet as far as vitamin A supplements go, but if you have any reservations you can of course let me be the guinea pig here and see how my body responds to the supplement before trying it yourself.

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Jofo, what would your opinion be on this Vitamin A supplement? http://www.nowfoods.com/Vitamin-A-25000-IU-100-Softgels.htm

I'm just about to start taking them, was wondering if I should be worried about anything?

Thanks a lot

That's the brand that I'm taking (except mine is 10,000 IU per pill), and it's also the exact supplement that FredTheBelgian said he has been using for a couple of years with no side effects. I emailed Now Foods and they said that it is 100% fish oil sourced Vitamin A, not synthetic. So I think it's a pretty safe bet as far as vitamin A supplements go, but if you have any reservations you can of course let me be the guinea pig here and see how my body responds to the supplement before trying it yourself.

Haha two guinea pigs is better than one! I'll be taking the exact same pills as I ordered the 10,000iu pills as well. I'll be taking 1 a day, then upping the dosage after a week or so, providing there's no side-effects.

Good luck mate and thanks for the reply!

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What about drinking alcohol and taking high dose vitamin a?

Let's be honest here, most of us want to rid ourselves of these skin maladies so we can have fun partying and be more confident with women. I don't want to have to avoid social drinking because I am on vitamin a regimen.

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I think I read there was some danger in doing that, that a lot of the intoxication of vitamin A happening were from associated excessive alcohol intake.

Once again, these cases are very rare, and you really have to take huge amounts like, a million of IU for that to happen.

Just don't take the vitamin A the same day or the day after you have gotten drunk with your friends and I think you should be fine.


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How's the vitamin a working for you Fred? Still controlling oil? I have been on 50,000 iu for almost 3 weeks with no improvement but I didn't expect any changes yet. Just wondering if taking this for 4-6 months is going to be worth it.

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Just a quick update from me:

Switched over to the Now Foods brand of Vitamin A (from fish liver oil) maybe 2 weeks ago and have been taking a single 25,000iu softgel every day since and have already seen a very noticeable reduction in the amount of oil my skin produces in addition to a great improvement of my moderate acne, I can't thank this thread enough!! However, I would still my skin to still be a fair bit more oily than the average person's, and while it is nowhere near as bad as it previously was, I still have a bit of acne so I was wondering if you guys would think it is safe or not to up the dosage to say 50,000iu per day until I get satisfactory results and then reduce it from there and see what I can get away with? Jofo's post about oil-based VItamin A and complementing it with Vitamin D3 was very helpful and said that it can make Vitamin A supplementation far less toxic, but I'm still kind of concerned about consuming that much Vitamin A since yeah it may not be toxic but I doubt it is that good for you? :/

Again, fantastic thread- thanks a lot!! :)

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I'm glad it's working for you MattThomas :). I understand what you're saying when you say your skin is still a bit oilier than other people. I have the same thing, but it's way more bearable now thanks to the vitamin A.

It's still working great for me, I currently take 25000 IU a day and will soon swtich to 10000 IU a day to see if I can get away with it.

Stick with it, even Accutane takes months to start working.


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I have been taking Vit A in addition to Vit D3 for close to 2 months now. No changes as of yet. Will be getting my blood tested soon. However, I have yet to experience any negative effects from the dosage. I do not think this is going to work for me, but will stick with it and update once I receive my blood test results.

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I have been taking Vit A in addition to Vit D3 for close to 2 months now. No changes as of yet. Will be getting my blood tested soon. However, I have yet to experience any negative effects from the dosage. I do not think this is going to work for me, but will stick with it and update once I receive my blood test results.

I have been taking 50,000 IU of NOW foods brand for 2 1/2 months along with 5,000 IU D3 and have noticed a slight reduction in oilyness. After my hour long classes my skin isn't as oily as it was last semester. It has not been reduced significantly though and I still blot multiple times throughout the day. It also always retains a shine to it that normal peoples skin does not have. I have not experienced any negative side-effects either.

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10,000 IU daily reduces my oily zone but that's in conjunction with pantothenic acid and anti-androgen daily. So yeah, I kinda doubt that 10,000 IU vitamin A all by itself is enough.

Sounds like such a big amount but a 10,000 IU pill is smaller than my pinky nail.

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So I received my blood test results a while back but was unable to access them online and had to call directly into the Dr.'s office. I did stop the Vitamin A supplementation about 1 week before taking the blood test after taking ~25K IU for over 2 months or so.

5/30/14 Vitamin A Levels (Before Vitamin A supplementation)

69 ug/dL

10/29/14 Vitamin A levels (After 2months @25,000IU Vitamin A supplementation)

71/ ug/dL

So it didn't raise too much. The standard range is supposed to be 18-77 so I have yet to reach toxic levels. However, I did supplement on Vitamin D3 and that one raised quite a bit from 22 ng/mL to 53.9 ng/mL (standard range being 30-100).

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3 Month Update

So I am still on Vit D3 of 5,000 IU and Vit A 25,000 IU and have been taking them every day for the past 90 days. No side effects, yet. With that said, my oil production has not decreased in the slightest. If anything, it has increased just slightly. I require a oil-blotting sheet every ~2 hours.

My skin is the clearest it has been as I have introduced BHA/AHA/retinol into my skin routine.

Not sure if I should continue or not as the lack of decreased oil is disappointing.

What do you think FredTheBelgian? Stick it out more or?


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I've been taking vitamin A pretty consistently for several months now and it has made no dent in my oil production. I think it may be helping to keep my skin clear of acne, though.

So I'm going to stop taking it. Not only are the results negligible, but I've also been getting some really irritating side effects. The worst is terrible headaches every morning, which is a common side effect of vitamin A. Another side effect I've been experiencing, which I've never seen linked to vitamin A, is poor sleep. I wake up a couple hours earlier than usual and can't get back to sleep. Also I randomly get very sharp pains in my sides. I've experienced this since I was a kid, but the frequency of the pains has increased since being on vitamin A.

So my search for an oily skin cure continues...

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I've been taking vitamin A pretty consistently for several months now and it has made no dent in my oil production. I think it may be helping to keep my skin clear of acne, though.

So I'm going to stop taking it. Not only are the results negligible, but I've also been getting some really irritating side effects. The worst is terrible headaches every morning, which is a common side effect of vitamin A. Another side effect I've been experiencing, which I've never seen linked to vitamin A, is poor sleep. I wake up a couple hours earlier than usual and can't get back to sleep. Also I randomly get very sharp pains in my sides. I've experienced this since I was a kid, but the frequency of the pains has increased since being on vitamin A.

So my search for an oily skin cure continues...

Jofo, I know as one point you were taking low dose accutane for your oily skin. What made you stop using that?

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I've been taking vitamin A pretty consistently for several months now and it has made no dent in my oil production. I think it may be helping to keep my skin clear of acne, though.

So I'm going to stop taking it. Not only are the results negligible, but I've also been getting some really irritating side effects. The worst is terrible headaches every morning, which is a common side effect of vitamin A. Another side effect I've been experiencing, which I've never seen linked to vitamin A, is poor sleep. I wake up a couple hours earlier than usual and can't get back to sleep. Also I randomly get very sharp pains in my sides. I've experienced this since I was a kid, but the frequency of the pains has increased since being on vitamin A.

So my search for an oily skin cure continues...

Jofo, I know as one point you were taking low dose accutane for your oily skin. What made you stop using that?

Mainly a combination of cost and side effects. The side effects I experienced with isotretinoin were increased fatigue, facial flushing, and lower back pain. But those weren't too bad and I'd take them over the vitamin A headaches any day.

The isotretinoin is still the only thing I've tried for oily skin that worked like magic. I'm planning on giving it another go in the future when I have more disposable income.

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I've been taking vitamin A pretty consistently for several months now and it has made no dent in my oil production. I think it may be helping to keep my skin clear of acne, though.

So I'm going to stop taking it. Not only are the results negligible, but I've also been getting some really irritating side effects. The worst is terrible headaches every morning, which is a common side effect of vitamin A. Another side effect I've been experiencing, which I've never seen linked to vitamin A, is poor sleep. I wake up a couple hours earlier than usual and can't get back to sleep. Also I randomly get very sharp pains in my sides. I've experienced this since I was a kid, but the frequency of the pains has increased since being on vitamin A.

So my search for an oily skin cure continues...

Jofo, I know as one point you were taking low dose accutane for your oily skin. What made you stop using that?

Mainly a combination of cost and side effects. The side effects I experienced with isotretinoin were increased fatigue, facial flushing, and lower back pain. But those weren't too bad and I'd take them over the vitamin A headaches any day.

The isotretinoin is still the only thing I've tried for oily skin that worked like magic. I'm planning on giving it another go in the future when I have more disposable income.

Thanks for the reply. I have both extremely oil skin and persistent acne. I took one full course of accutane in the past and both the oil and acne came back after 2 years. I'm on my second course now, but I think after this course things will start going South again. I'm considering low dose accutane as a long term solution, but I have my reservations about it... I also seem to get fatigue and joint pain from it, but I'm on 40mg a day. I love having no oil, though. It's crazy how much the lack of oil improves my quality of life.

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Thanks for the reply. I have both extremely oil skin and persistent acne. I took one full course of accutane in the past and both the oil and acne came back after 2 years. I'm on my second course now, but I think after this course things will start going South again. I'm considering low dose accutane as a long term solution, but I have my reservations about it... I also seem to get fatigue and joint pain from it, but I'm on 40mg a day. I love having no oil, though. It's crazy how much the lack of oil improves my quality of life.

If you have severe acne then I don't know if a low dose will be enough, but most people who do it see a reduction in oil that is just as drastic as taking a large dose. It was effective enough for me that I'm planning on doing it again.

I have to say though that the idea of having to take isotretinoin for the rest of my life is really depressing, but I just don't know what else to do. I've considered looking into a diode laser treatment since in the long run it's probably cheaper than paying for Accutane forever.

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Thanks for the reply. I have both extremely oil skin and persistent acne. I took one full course of accutane in the past and both the oil and acne came back after 2 years. I'm on my second course now, but I think after this course things will start going South again. I'm considering low dose accutane as a long term solution, but I have my reservations about it... I also seem to get fatigue and joint pain from it, but I'm on 40mg a day. I love having no oil, though. It's crazy how much the lack of oil improves my quality of life.

If you have severe acne then I don't know if a low dose will be enough, but most people who do it see a reduction in oil that is just as drastic as taking a large dose. It was effective enough for me that I'm planning on doing it again.

I have to say though that the idea of having to take isotretinoin for the rest of my life is really depressing, but I just don't know what else to do. I've considered looking into a diode laser treatment since in the long run it's probably cheaper than paying for Accutane forever.

My acne isn't severe, it's just persistent and came back after a full course of accutane. I also don't like the idea of taking accutane for the rest of my life. I'm female, so I can also take anti-androgens, but I don't love that idea either. Spiro, yasmin, and yaz (the usual anti-androgens) all cause me severe hair loss. My next option would be to try flutamide, but that is hard on the liver and I don't love the idea of using it long term. What have you read about diode lasers? I've read about high dose PDT destroying the oil glands permanently, but there is very little information about that out there, and I can't find anyone who would do that kind of treatment. I would love you be able to blast my last a few times, though, and be done with my oily skin and acne!

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