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Posted 08 August 2014 - 06:14 PM

That would be great to receive an update.  Thanks again, you've been more than generous with your story.  I sincerely hope you get significant improvement from this procedure.



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Posted 24 August 2014 - 06:28 AM

Sld235,   Yes  Please update  with pics.   whenever  you have time &  can do so.   We very much appreciate you sharing your story with us.

 

Here are a few questions I have:    First,  Are you still in a bit of  pain a Month later with eating or moving your facial expressions when talking?  Laughing?

 

How was your first day back at work/School?(on day 13 post treatment?).    Did the People who know you before see changes or make any comments?  Did you share your secret to some of them?   I don't think I could share in person with anyone(other than Family) since I'm such a private person.   Were you able to hide most of the Pinkness and swelling with make-up when you went to work  1st day so they wouldn't know you had this procedure done?  

 

I  can  also understand in wanting 80% improvement so I take it you will be going to see Dr.Taylor again?  If you do plan on going,   I would wait at least a year as seeing your pics.  he went very harsh and you need your skin time to breath and recover.     I know you are in rushed to get things done,  but please take some time off as Collagen takes many months to build from something so aggressive with what you got. 

 

One last question,   Do you still have swelling & how long did they say the swelling should be gone along with the pinkness to your skin?   Thanks for your time. 



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Posted 26 August 2014 - 06:54 PM

Hey guys,

 

I'm pretty embarrased to admit this, but I totally forgot my log-in information so I made a new one :S!!! I was trying to log in all day yesterday and I made an e-mail specifically for this account, but then I couldn't remember that information. It was a mess lol. It's been oficially one month since my procedure and as expected, my scarring has returned, but it has improved. The procedure was the least effective on my temples, my scars are still pretty deep there. I'm pretty sure there is improvement, but I honestly can't tell the percentage (and I'm not sure how people can figure that out). The scarring on my cheeks, however, is a lot better. It has definitely decreased the depth. Texture wise, it did nothing for enlarged pores (they might just be scars) near my nose area. The skin is still pretty red, but I have been messing up a lot guys. I know I'm not supposed to be in the sun, but there were times where I absolutely could not avoid it when I drove. I had the hat, but the sun still hit me at times. I always wear sunscreen, but I believe I might have already done some damage and may have hyperpigmentation. I'm not sure if it is, because that area in general looks red, but I think I screwed up. I definitely do not recommend this in the summer. Otherwise, my family members tell me my skin looks a lot better.

 

The swelling has decreased a lot and it's almost back to normal. Since the 13th day until now, my face has looked swollen around the treated area (certain light emphasized it more). It's only been a couple of days since it has decreased, but it was a lot obvious before. I wore makeup and that covered the redness, but like I mentioned before, my work is very demanding and that just made my face redder and more swollen. It's also very hot here so that didn't help at all. I went ahead and returned to the gym (slowly) about the 3rd week because I was still becoming flushed during the summer so I figured I can't avoid it so I might as well. My cheeks are still numb and they feel tight at times, but otherwise, I have no problem eating at all.

 

No one has said anything at work about my skin besides my family. I'm pretty sure they could tell a difference, but they didn't say anything about it. I was very happy about this because I find it to be very embarrasing.

 

I already spoke to my sibling (who also has scarring, but no way near as bad) and we are planning to do it together again next year. I would love to do it sooner (winter time), but I'm assuming you guys think it's a bad idea :P. I am thinking about fillers, but I am still unsure about it. I figured the scarring would just get worse by the third month....the guy on realself told me he had it on the first and second month. I will post pictures and get opinions. Now , I'm wondering if you guys would like pictures in the afternoon or in the morning? My scars seem to worsen by the end of the day, but they look a lot better in the morning. Please let me know what you guys would like :).



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 01:10 AM

Don't be so hard on yourself.  If I remember correctly you are hispanic?  I remember the Asian gentleman on realself said he was literally like a vampire for months and still had some hyperpigmentation.  If you have ethnic skin you are bound to get hyperpigmentation no matter how strict you are about sun protection.  You can certainly limit the degree of hyperpigmentation and the duration by sticking to a good regimen of retin-a and hydroquinone applied to the dark areas to hasten the lightening.  Ethnic skin turns dark from any kind of trauma and in my experience it's almost guaranteed to happen.

 

It's great to hear how supportive your family has been.  It makes the process so much more bearable when you have people around you who sympathize.  



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Posted 27 August 2014 - 03:34 AM

I would like to see both  (Morning/Afternoon) photos.   One thing you might want to consider is getting a Face shield Mask if your going to be out in the Sun.  Make sure it's  a UVA & UVB  Sun Protector so you avoid sun rays to your face/Also keep wearing your hat.    You should go  to Ebay  and order one.    The gal who brought this attention to me earlier in the year  is  V. Stiviano  who is(was?) EX-L.A. Clipper Owner Donald Sterling's  Much younger Mistress.    Do a key word search while going  on Ebay =  V.Stiviano and you'll see what I mean in Face shield Mask.   Just make sure it's UVA & UVB  in any of the sellers(description) selling these  if you decide to buy one,  But I'd still wear Sunscreen  regardless to be even more extra safe from skin cancer and getting any more hyperpigmention.

 

Even inside our homes we do get some rays hitting  through our windows just like  driving a car.  So  be extra careful   now as your skin is much more sensitive with the Sun.



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Posted 29 August 2014 - 08:46 PM

I apologize for taking a while to update. A lot of things are happening in my life right now and I kept forgetting my account information. I actually made another photobucket account for this *sigh*. Here is my almost 5 week update (well, it will be in 4 days). I tried to angle it in different ways because lighting makes such a huge difference. The scarring on my left side has always been deeper than my right. My worst scars are on my left temple; I knew that area was always going to be a problem. As a teenager, I would sometimes get nodules there and I think the damage was just too much. It's somewhat sunken in, so I don't know if lasers or subcision will ever really fix it. Personally, now that I took pictures and compared them to my old ones, I dont really see a huge difference depth wise in the temple area. Maybe there is some improvement, but I really can't tell. I think at this point, fillers will only be able to correct it. I wonder why temple scars are so difficult to treat? As for the cheeks, I do see more improvement, but then it might still just be swelling. The asian guy on realself had fillers done in the first and second month. I plan to wait until the third month to see how different my scars change since this is the timeline the asian guy showed. It's just frustrating to know that the scars may worsen later, but the scars already look like they can't get any worse in the temple area .

 

Like I mentioned before, suggestions are always welcomed. Old pictures are on my first post. I know for most, the scars still look bad, but there is improvement.

 

Here are my pictures (no makeup). Nothing has been done since the procedure. I am thinking about putting fillers in the temple area & other deep scars by the third month, but I might do it sooner.

 

Left side

 

http://i47.photobuck...zpsfdeaae45.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsaa5093ac.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps41118d9f.jpg

 

Right side - sun was too low to get direct rays on face when I realized I had none in my pictures  :[

 

http://i47.photobuck...zps2bc26703.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsa497ad81.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps96058ad1.jpg

 

Pictures were taken about 730 pm, so this is the worst they will look (my scars look better in the morning). I'm actually trying to find the worst possible light to emphasize the depth guys. One thing the asian guy didn't do is have rays hitting his face so that you can tell the depth better. If I were to take these pictures in normal lightening, my skin would look amazing.


Edited by sld123, 29 August 2014 - 09:54 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2014 - 02:04 PM

I apologize for taking a while to update. A lot of things are happening in my life right now and I kept forgetting my account information. I actually made another photobucket account for this *sigh*. Here is my almost 5 week update (well, it will be in 4 days). I tried to angle it in different ways because lighting makes such a huge difference. The scarring on my left side has always been deeper than my right. My worst scars are on my left temple; I knew that area was always going to be a problem. As a teenager, I would sometimes get nodules there and I think the damage was just too much. It's somewhat sunken in, so I don't know if lasers or subcision will ever really fix it. Personally, now that I took pictures and compared them to my old ones, I dont really see a huge difference depth wise in the temple area. Maybe there is some improvement, but I really can't tell. I think at this point, fillers will only be able to correct it. I wonder why temple scars are so difficult to treat? As for the cheeks, I do see more improvement, but then it might still just be swelling. The asian guy on realself had fillers done in the first and second month. I plan to wait until the third month to see how different my scars change since this is the timeline the asian guy showed. It's just frustrating to know that the scars may worsen later, but the scars already look like they can't get any worse in the temple area .

 

Like I mentioned before, suggestions are always welcomed. Old pictures are on my first post. I know for most, the scars still look bad, but there is improvement.

 

Here are my pictures (no makeup). Nothing has been done since the procedure. I am thinking about putting fillers in the temple area & other deep scars by the third month, but I might do it sooner.

 

Left side

 

http://i47.photobuck...zpsfdeaae45.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsaa5093ac.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps41118d9f.jpg

 

Right side - sun was too low to get direct rays on face when I realized I had none in my pictures  :[

 

http://i47.photobuck...zps2bc26703.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsa497ad81.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps96058ad1.jpg

 

Pictures were taken about 730 pm, so this is the worst they will look (my scars look better in the morning). I'm actually trying to find the worst possible light to emphasize the depth guys. One thing the asian guy didn't do is have rays hitting his face so that you can tell the depth better. If I were to take these pictures in normal lightening, my skin would look amazing.

 

I read this entire thread and maybe noticed a discrepancy between the way you were treated and the other gentlemen. But, first let me say, you clearly have gotten improvement!

 

When reading your summary of the day of treatment, I didn't notice you stating they took your blood for a PRP treatment, like they did with the gentleman you referenced. PRP is platelet rich plasma which is supposed to spur healing and increase the general effectiveness of lasers and needling, etc.This stood out to me because I am due to have a PRP treatment soon (which I am mulling cancelling). Did this doctor offer you this treatment? 


Edited by Amicus, 30 August 2014 - 02:09 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2014 - 04:58 PM


I apologize for taking a while to update. A lot of things are happening in my life right now and I kept forgetting my account information. I actually made another photobucket account for this *sigh*. Here is my almost 5 week update (well, it will be in 4 days). I tried to angle it in different ways because lighting makes such a huge difference. The scarring on my left side has always been deeper than my right. My worst scars are on my left temple; I knew that area was always going to be a problem. As a teenager, I would sometimes get nodules there and I think the damage was just too much. It's somewhat sunken in, so I don't know if lasers or subcision will ever really fix it. Personally, now that I took pictures and compared them to my old ones, I dont really see a huge difference depth wise in the temple area. Maybe there is some improvement, but I really can't tell. I think at this point, fillers will only be able to correct it. I wonder why temple scars are so difficult to treat? As for the cheeks, I do see more improvement, but then it might still just be swelling. The asian guy on realself had fillers done in the first and second month. I plan to wait until the third month to see how different my scars change since this is the timeline the asian guy showed. It's just frustrating to know that the scars may worsen later, but the scars already look like they can't get any worse in the temple area .

 

Like I mentioned before, suggestions are always welcomed. Old pictures are on my first post. I know for most, the scars still look bad, but there is improvement.

 

Here are my pictures (no makeup). Nothing has been done since the procedure. I am thinking about putting fillers in the temple area & other deep scars by the third month, but I might do it sooner.

 

Left side

 

http://i47.photobuck...zpsfdeaae45.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsaa5093ac.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps41118d9f.jpg

 

Right side - sun was too low to get direct rays on face when I realized I had none in my pictures  :[

 

http://i47.photobuck...zps2bc26703.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zpsa497ad81.jpg

http://i47.photobuck...zps96058ad1.jpg

 

Pictures were taken about 730 pm, so this is the worst they will look (my scars look better in the morning). I'm actually trying to find the worst possible light to emphasize the depth guys. One thing the asian guy didn't do is have rays hitting his face so that you can tell the depth better. If I were to take these pictures in normal lightening, my skin would look amazing.

 

I read this entire thread and maybe noticed a discrepancy between the way you were treated and the other gentlemen. But, first let me say, you clearly have gotten improvement!

 

When reading your summary of the day of treatment, I didn't notice you stating they took your blood for a PRP treatment, like they did with the gentleman you referenced. PRP is platelet rich plasma which is supposed to spur healing and increase the general effectiveness of lasers and needling, etc.This stood out to me because I am due to have a PRP treatment soon (which I am mulling cancelling). Did this doctor offer you this treatment? 

 

Hi Amcius,

 

I was never offered PRP and I'm pretty sure the Asian guy didn't get it either. The only difference between the two of us is that I did not get fillers done one month after. I do think if I had come back with pictures after my fillers, my skin would have looked a lot better. I'm planning to call on Monday to get a reference for a doctor that can do my fillers. I also plan to ask how soon I can get laser resurfacing done again.


Edited by sld123, 08 September 2014 - 08:46 PM.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 08:56 PM

I am really confused right now. I recently went to a dermatologist that Dr. Taylor referred me to regarding fillers. The doctor straight out refused to give them to me and said that I would just be wasting my money.  I took facial pictures in this box-like machine (different angles) that showed sun damage, inflammation...etc. He first started off by asking me questions; what I had done for my scars, my ethnicity...etc. He then asked me what I wanted. I said I wanted fillers and he just said "why". I was extremely confused and I answered "for my scars?". He asked me why my face was so red (because of the acne scar resurfacing, it's hot, I'm active..etc) and then showed me a picture that showed all the inflammation I was still experiencing. He said he wouldn't treat me until 5-6 months have passed and that the fillers would just be reabsorbed quickly because I was so inflamed. He then said a better treatment for me was DeepFX and that was mostly it. To be honest, I left feeling upset. Maybe I was being too sensitive, but I wasn't really happy with the way he spoke to me at times.

 

I guess I should also mention that I asked Dr. T when I could repeat the whole procedure again (I was expecting months later). He said that I could repeat the procedure right now if I wanted to which surprised me. I had mentioned this to the doctor that I saw for my fillers and he said he didn't understand why he would push it so quickly since my skin was still healing. I'm not doing the procedure that quickly (in case you guys were wondering), but I was planning it right before Spring.


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Posted 08 September 2014 - 10:18 PM

Who was this doctor?  I do believe that some doctors are hesitant to treat someone who has obviously had a recent treatment.  They're afraid of liability and being blamed if something goes wrong.  I've encountered this before, where the next doctor will see that I've had a resurfacing procedure and signal that they don't want to treat.  I feel like the comment about fillers absorbing faster is just BS.  I've NEVER heard that before.  

 

Also, if you do fillers please just stick to hyaluronic acid fillers like Voluma, Perlane, Restylane. 



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 02:00 AM

The improvement is quite drastic, and sharing your story is awesome. No one realises, but it takes a strength of character to keep battling through it the way you've done!



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Posted 09 September 2014 - 03:15 PM

Blahblah - I saw Dr. Mitchel Goldman in La Jolla. Is DeepFX really the way to go with scars? The realself reviews weren't that great. I already asked Dr. T for another doctor I could see regarding fillers. I guess I should mention that he said that the fillers would go away and that I would then write a bad review on him on yelp. I said I wouldn't do that because I'm realistic about the outcome, but I was thrown off by that. He just said that he didn't want me to waste my money.

 

Lightninginskillet - Thank you for the kind words.


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Posted 14 September 2014 - 05:34 AM

sld123,   I'm sorry to hear what a Jerk this other Doctor was to you during your consultation.    Sometimes certain Doctors are so arrogant &  just don't have any manners or  show any compassion for their patients.   You're better off not seeing that guy if I were you.    I was looking for Doctors near your area(San Diego) and found one that not only does Fillers,  But also does Saline Subcision(one of a RARE few Doctors who does this procedure)  in the  San Diego area where you live.   Apparently with what I read Saline Subcision is a safe,effective and useful technique to address rolling acne scars that have shallow depressions with curved,  sloping walls.  I notice he also post on realself that this procedure also helps with boxcar type acne scars, but it's a long process that you would need about 3 to 5 treatments space 4 weeks apart to get most effective results.   I don't think its that expensive at all about the same pricing to getting temporary dermal fillers.

 

So most doctors don't do this type of Subcision and to read more do a google search for 'insight Dermatology'  & doctor's name is  Bryan K. Chen.  He also has  many mostly positive reviews on yelp.   Check him out it doesn't hurt to see if he might be the right doctor for you as consultation is free.



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Posted 05 October 2014 - 05:34 PM

Hey OP! Thank you for sharing your pictures! It makes me want to try that laser! I've had three subcisions and the most improvement has been from combining subcision with laser. The scars got untethered and the laser promoted collagen production. Can you suggest that to your doctor? I'm a also considering subcision and filler, including fat transfer. I've experienced loss of volume as a result of some of the procedures I've tried, on the other hand, subcision combined with filler would be cheaper and require less downtime.




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