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What do you guys think of eating a vegan diet for acne and health in general? What do you think of the arguments vegan make about their diet being the ideal diet for humans? Also, I'm not talking about a junky vegan diet full of processed stuff. I'm talking about a vegan diet with lots of plan based foods.

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i think it would help acne but idk if it will completely clear acne because u need to be on it forever probably and eating a vegan diet just doesnt fill me up so i couldnt do it lol

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i think it would help acne but idk if it will completely clear acne because u need to be on it forever probably and eating a vegan diet just doesnt fill me up so i couldnt do it lol

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I am quite against vegan diets. Animal products have so many nutrients, and the macromolecular composition is much safer than plant products (fat is the safest macromolecule). While it's true that plants have a far superior antioxidant profile, they also have a lot of dangerous proteins that are specifically produce to interfere with our digestion, from taste to inhibition of nutrient absorption. They are also almost universally higher in carbohydrates, which leads to more oxidative damage.

There are plenty of arguments from evolution that also do not favor a vegan diet, but I won't begin to mention those. What is worth mentioning, however, is that a vegan diet is essentially impossible without supplementation due to a lack of vitamin B12 in plants. Several vitamins are also only fat-soluble, which makes it a little more difficult to get the most out of your meals, especially when your digestive enzymes are being inhibited by plant proteins commonly found in things like nuts, seeds, and legumes.

I would say, though, that plants have a necessary role in any diet. They are incredibly rich in many nutrients, and the antioxidants help to dampen the negative consequences of eating meat (these consequences are mostly present in modern meats because of how the animals are fed and processed. Feed crops absorb toxins from the environment (including pesticides and heavy metals) and are fed in massive quantities to the animals, which accumulate the toxins in addition to some of their own (vaccinations and antibiotics). Humans then eat the meat, and accumulate these toxins over many decades. This is not a detriment of the meat itself, but rather a consequence of being an apex predator in polluted land and sea).

A vegan diet for general health would probably lead to malnourishment unless one makes concessions, such as eating large quantities of legumes (take a careful look at this picture of a soybean; those are not hairs on the pods, but razor sharp spikes. Walk through a soybean field around the time of harvest and your legs will bleed: http://thenaturalfarmer.com/sites/default/files/SoyBeans.jpg), excessive polyunsaturated vegetable oils (easily oxidized, quite bad for you), or egregious quantities of yeast (gotta get those B vitamins). For acne, I can't see it helping much either. In fact, because acne is a disease driven by a dysregulated immune system, a vegan diet might cause more damage in certain people because of all the antigenic foods (wheat, soy, peanuts, etc). If someone is getting acne because they are deficient in a particular vitamin, a vegan diet *could* help, but so too could any diet with that has plants as a part of it. Steamed meats are incredibly safe to eat; think about it - how many people have made the observation that their breakouts may be tied to unseasoned chicken, or white fish? And how many have made the observation that it's a plant food - citrus, strawberries, wheat, nightshades, nuts, soy, etc? The balance is shifted in favor of animal products.

But of course, as with all things, moderation; if all you eat is salami, you'll have a much higher chance of ending up with hypertension and colon cancer.

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Do you have any issue digesting properly cooked legumes? Because if you can't live on them, and you aren't going to eat a lot of vegan faux protein foods, then you'll have to eat of a lot of food to get your protein.

Why do you want to do this? Unless you have an issue digesting fats or something, a vegan diet isn't going to do anything special for your acne.

Nutrient dense, anti-inflammatory, nothing minimal dairy, especially unfermented dairy. To be anti-inflammatory it does need to be plant based and low to mod GI., and of course, not include anything you have an intolerance for. That's what you need to do. However you want to do it.

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Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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I am quite against vegan diets. Animal products have so many nutrients, and the macromolecular composition is much safer than plant products (fat is the safest macromolecule). While it's true that plants have a far superior antioxidant profile, they also have a lot of dangerous proteins that are specifically produce to interfere with our digestion, from taste to inhibition of nutrient absorption. They are also almost universally higher in carbohydrates, which leads to more oxidative damage.

There are plenty of arguments from evolution that also do not favor a vegan diet, but I won't begin to mention those. What is worth mentioning, however, is that a vegan diet is essentially impossible without supplementation due to a lack of vitamin B12 in plants. Several vitamins are also only fat-soluble, which makes it a little more difficult to get the most out of your meals, especially when your digestive enzymes are being inhibited by plant proteins commonly found in things like nuts, seeds, and legumes.

I would say, though, that plants have a necessary role in any diet. They are incredibly rich in many nutrients, and the antioxidants help to dampen the negative consequences of eating meat (these consequences are mostly present in modern meats because of how the animals are fed and processed. Feed crops absorb toxins from the environment (including pesticides and heavy metals) and are fed in massive quantities to the animals, which accumulate the toxins in addition to some of their own (vaccinations and antibiotics). Humans then eat the meat, and accumulate these toxins over many decades. This is not a detriment of the meat itself, but rather a consequence of being an apex predator in polluted land and sea).

A vegan diet for general health would probably lead to malnourishment unless one makes concessions, such as eating large quantities of legumes (take a careful look at this picture of a soybean; those are not hairs on the pods, but razor sharp spikes. Walk through a soybean field around the time of harvest and your legs will bleed: http://thenaturalfarmer.com/sites/default/files/SoyBeans.jpg), excessive polyunsaturated vegetable oils (easily oxidized, quite bad for you), or egregious quantities of yeast (gotta get those B vitamins). For acne, I can't see it helping much either. In fact, because acne is a disease driven by a dysregulated immune system, a vegan diet might cause more damage in certain people because of all the antigenic foods (wheat, soy, peanuts, etc). If someone is getting acne because they are deficient in a particular vitamin, a vegan diet *could* help, but so too could any diet with that has plants as a part of it. Steamed meats are incredibly safe to eat; think about it - how many people have made the observation that their breakouts may be tied to unseasoned chicken, or white fish? And how many have made the observation that it's a plant food - citrus, strawberries, wheat, nightshades, nuts, soy, etc? The balance is shifted in favor of animal products.

But of course, as with all things, moderation; if all you eat is salami, you'll have a much higher chance of ending up with hypertension and colon cancer.

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I am quite against vegan diets. Animal products have so many nutrients, and the macromolecular composition is much safer than plant products (fat is the safest macromolecule). While it's true that plants have a far superior antioxidant profile, they also have a lot of dangerous proteins that are specifically produce to interfere with our digestion, from taste to inhibition of nutrient absorption. They are also almost universally higher in carbohydrates, which leads to more oxidative damage.

There are plenty of arguments from evolution that also do not favor a vegan diet, but I won't begin to mention those. What is worth mentioning, however, is that a vegan diet is essentially impossible without supplementation due to a lack of vitamin B12 in plants. Several vitamins are also only fat-soluble, which makes it a little more difficult to get the most out of your meals, especially when your digestive enzymes are being inhibited by plant proteins commonly found in things like nuts, seeds, and legumes.

I would say, though, that plants have a necessary role in any diet. They are incredibly rich in many nutrients, and the antioxidants help to dampen the negative consequences of eating meat (these consequences are mostly present in modern meats because of how the animals are fed and processed. Feed crops absorb toxins from the environment (including pesticides and heavy metals) and are fed in massive quantities to the animals, which accumulate the toxins in addition to some of their own (vaccinations and antibiotics). Humans then eat the meat, and accumulate these toxins over many decades. This is not a detriment of the meat itself, but rather a consequence of being an apex predator in polluted land and sea).

A vegan diet for general health would probably lead to malnourishment unless one makes concessions, such as eating large quantities of legumes (take a careful look at this picture of a soybean; those are not hairs on the pods, but razor sharp spikes. Walk through a soybean field around the time of harvest and your legs will bleed: http://thenaturalfarmer.com/sites/default/files/SoyBeans.jpg), excessive polyunsaturated vegetable oils (easily oxidized, quite bad for you), or egregious quantities of yeast (gotta get those B vitamins). For acne, I can't see it helping much either. In fact, because acne is a disease driven by a dysregulated immune system, a vegan diet might cause more damage in certain people because of all the antigenic foods (wheat, soy, peanuts, etc). If someone is getting acne because they are deficient in a particular vitamin, a vegan diet *could* help, but so too could any diet with that has plants as a part of it. Steamed meats are incredibly safe to eat; think about it - how many people have made the observation that their breakouts may be tied to unseasoned chicken, or white fish? And how many have made the observation that it's a plant food - citrus, strawberries, wheat, nightshades, nuts, soy, etc? The balance is shifted in favor of animal products.

But of course, as with all things, moderation; if all you eat is salami, you'll have a much higher chance of ending up with hypertension and colon cancer.

Thanks for the very detailed reply! I actually am interested in the arguments against a vegan diet. Would you mind sharing them? I have read that in the past a vegan diet would have been possible without supplementation of B12 because B12 was found on unwashed fruit and veggies. What are your thoughts on this? The reason I was interested in trying a vegan diet is because I've heard of many people with PCOS (which I have) having success with it. I'm not sure if this is true, but maybe animal hormones in the meat we eat could affect our own hormones?

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We do not have a leafy plant aversion. Bipedalism is also beneficial for gathering plant foods.. And quadrupeds are damn good hunters and very good at running down prey. Faster than you can. Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivourism. We evolved to be omnivores.

But yes, plants have a great deal of hormones. Including androgens & estrogens. Usually in balance. You can get b12 from fermented foods.

Paige, are you perhaps hyperthyroid?


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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We do not have a leafy plant aversion. Bipedalism is also beneficial for gathering plant foods.. And quadrupeds are damn good hunters and very good at running down prey. Faster than you can. Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivourism. We evolved to be omnivores.

But yes, plants have a great deal of hormones. Including androgens & estrogens. Usually in balance. You can get b12 from fermented foods.

Paige, are you perhaps hyperthyroid?

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I'm not one to smash people who eat meat, I occasionally do now, and I'm not one to go around promoting vegan-ism but I did go vegan for a month and my skin was the clearest it's ever been. I guess it all depends on your previous diet and how you eat while going vegan. I know a few overweight vegetarians because they would eat large amounts of cheese or carbs to substitute for other things. It's very tricky when first switching over to vegetarian/vegan. Understanding what you can and can't eat etc. But it gets easier over time and my tastes buds got "better" if you will. I noticed myself tasting food better and making love to peaches and certain vegetables. Your body learns to crave different things. You just have to make sure to eat a balanced diet even on a vegetarian diet. Just as if you were trying to eat healthy as a non-vegan. Not eating meat doesn't automatically make you healthy. As for the whole B-12 thing I won't get into it much but you can still get it through certain foods and believe it was accessible through soil and such when we used to not grow everything out of chemical soil. It's a messy conversation but I took a supplement like once a week while going vegan just to be safe. I used to have really oily skin and that stopped as well at the fear of looking in the mirror every morning because there used to always be anywhere from 1-10 new whiteheads when I woke up. It could be that I really watched what I was eating and ate a TON more fruits and veggies because well I had to. I was hungry haha. Or the vegetarian thing just really worked for me. Either way it worked for ME. As for you? Not so sure. If you think you can handle it, give it a try. If anything it would probably be a good detox period for your body. Let me know if you have any questions and good luck!

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A Vegan diet helps some people better than others. It depends a lot on your skin type and your diet before hand.

Since I became a vegan my skin got much much better, then a few months ago I started eating dairy again and broke out. Maybe it was a coincidence, I don't know. But i am back on a vegan diet.

Now as for meat being the best thing for you blah blah blah, believe what you want but you can be perfectly healthy and vegan. I have gone to the doctors multiple times when I was a vegan because my mom want to check to make sure I was okay (haha) and every time blood tests, etc. came out perfectly normal. I had even lost 10 pounds that i really didn't need.

The reason a vegan diet MAY help your skin is the hormones in milk (you can't deny this because there is proven research). The hormones in milk can overload your body with all this stuff that you really don't need and 'cause it to flip out. This effects some people more than others.

Now, i am not a wiz in this. I don't have 10,000 facts to give you. But research those facts for yourself about milk hormones and acne and you will find studies. I know a vegan diet isn't for everyone and it is very hard but if you find it is something you want to try then slowly cut out cow's milk. you don't have to do no eggs look through every ingredient to make sure there is no trace of animal bi-product.

Something like veganism is a thing your going to fund everyone has a different opinion on, so i advise you to just research for yourself because you are the one that will make the best choices for your own health (-:


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We do not have a leafy plant aversion. Bipedalism is also beneficial for gathering plant foods.. And quadrupeds are damn good hunters and very good at running down prey. Faster than you can. Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivourism. We evolved to be omnivores.

But yes, plants have a great deal of hormones. Including androgens & estrogens. Usually in balance. You can get b12 from fermented foods.

Paige, are you perhaps hyperthyroid?

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We do not have a leafy plant aversion. Bipedalism is also beneficial for gathering plant foods.. And quadrupeds are damn good hunters and very good at running down prey. Faster than you can. Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivourism. We evolved to be omnivores.

But yes, plants have a great deal of hormones. Including androgens & estrogens. Usually in balance. You can get b12 from fermented foods.

Paige, are you perhaps hyperthyroid?

There are plenty of quadrupeds that hunt, yes, but they hunt differently than we do. We run our prey to exhaustion over a longer period of time; quadruped hunters are built for intense bursts of incredible speed. The method is different. Also, most plant-eating animals, especially grazers are quadrupeds.

We do have a leafy plant aversion. I'm not sure why you think we don't. It isn't difficult to feed kids chicken breast sauteed in butter, but it's much more difficult to feed them steamed broccoli. Our taste buds are designed to sense the bitter alkaloids in plant leaves and produce a negative cognitive response. That's pretty much the definition of an innate aversion. Sure, we can get used to them. I sure have. I used to never eat vegetables (despite being fed them as a baby). Now I eat salads almost every day.

Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivorism, sure, but I'm not arguing for carnivorism. I'm arguing for omnivorism. Our intestines are shorter than herbivores and longer than carnivores. We have canines and molars. Surely one cannot extrapolate from this that humans evolved to eat only plants?

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We do not have a leafy plant aversion. Bipedalism is also beneficial for gathering plant foods.. And quadrupeds are damn good hunters and very good at running down prey. Faster than you can. Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivorousism. We evolved to be omnivores.

But yes, plants have a great deal of hormones. Including androgens & estrogens. Usually in balance. You can get b12 from fermented foods.

Paige, are you perhaps hyperthyroid?

There are plenty of quadrupeds that hunt, yes, but they hunt differently than we do. We run our prey to exhaustion over a longer period of time; quadruped hunters are built for intense bursts of incredible speed. The method is different. Also, most plant-eating animals, especially grazers are quadrupeds.

We do have a leafy plant aversion. I'm not sure why you think we don't. It isn't difficult to feed kids chicken breast sauteed in butter, but it's much more difficult to feed them steamed broccoli. Our taste buds are designed to sense the bitter alkaloids in plant leaves and produce a negative cognitive response. That's pretty much the definition of an innate aversion. Sure, we can get used to them. I sure have. I used to never eat vegetables (despite being fed them as a baby). Now I eat salads almost every day.

Intestinal length and teeth are arguments against carnivorism, sure, but I'm not arguing for carnivorism. I'm arguing for omnivorism. Our intestines are shorter than herbivores and longer than carnivores. We have canines and molars. Surely one cannot extrapolate from this that humans evolved to eat only plants?


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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That the animals get exhausted has nothing to do with the number of legs. It;'s about how we dissipate heat. And pretty near all land animals are quadrupeds. Mammals & reptiles at least.

Loved broccoli my entire life. Babies happily eat mashed veggies. Anyway, it's a cultural thing. Parents do stupid things in the transition from jarred baby food to chicken tenders & mac and cheese. When I was in England, I observed that the children don't want to eat meat. If you notice, at the end of the Pink Floyd song Brick in the Wall, they are shouting about not getting any pudding (dessert) if they don't eat their meat. All our closest relatives eat a great deal of leafy vegetables. And they don't eat a lot of meat.

No one has said we evolved to eat only plants so I don't know why you are even arguing about it.. In fact, I specifically said that teeth & intestinal length are arguments that we are omnivores. It's a big planet, we spread to many places and adapted to many diets. The OP merely wants to try being a vegan.

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We don't like bitter? Then what's with all the coffee and tea drinking? (Children drink these things in many countries) They even burn coffee to make it more bitter. And the lettuce mix trend filled with bitter greens? And herbs flavoring our food. And I love my bitter dark chocolate,

Paige asked about claims of veganism being the ideal diet. To which the answer is, there's really no such thing. All kinds of diets can be ideal if they are base on real, whole nutritious foods. but vegan ism without the faux foods is difficult and means you probably have to be very diligent about getting essential nutrients and consume a great deal of food. Having to eat all day isn't even an ideal situation for a gorilla these days.

We have better hands then our relatives. Better hands along with the bipedalism which frees up the hands means better ability to fiddle with and explore the environment. The exploring and altering and thinking makes brains/intelligence grow. Look at how much smarter an octopus is than a squid.


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Thanks everyone for sharing arguments for and against veganism. I appreciate hearing all thoughts and opinions!

I've been eating a vegan diet for about two weeks now, and this is the least oily my skin has ever been.

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Thanks everyone for sharing arguments for and against veganism. I appreciate hearing all thoughts and opinions!

I've been eating a vegan diet for about two weeks now, and this is the least oily my skin has ever been.

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Go for it! Seriously! After being vegan for 3 or so months (I've been vegan for over a year now), I never had acne again. :) This after taking Accutane, and then Spironolactone! I don't take any meds anymore; I just use retin-a for my pores, which look a million times better now. I think most arguments against veganism are plain silly. I don't have to eat all day, I eat as often and as fast as my family, and they eat meat and dairy and eggs. I eat 2000+ calories a day. My labs are perfect. My weight is perfect. It's super easy. The only thing I supplement is B12; from what I understand, humans of the past were able to get a substantial amount of B12 from the soil, but with current food production practices we need to supplement. All I do is add 2 tbsp. total throughout the day of nutritional yeast to my foods. I'm of the opinion that meat and animal products are downright just not good for us, particularly with how they are produced in our modern day. Plus, the vegan diet is cruelty free. :) Good luck, and if you have any questions feel free to pm me!

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I don't think I'm disciplined enough to try veganism long term, but if it's working for you then that's great plus it saves a few animals. I was vegetarian for over 10 years, then I added fish, and now I also eat meat to see if it would make a difference. Eating meat has actually made my anemia symptoms almost disappear, so I guess I may have had an iron deficiency from being vegetarian all those years. I wish I didn't have to eat meat because I don't like the thought of eating animals, but for me it seems to be a better diet than being vegetarian. What do you eat as part of a vegan diet? Some people avoid soy and tofu, which makes it hard to get protein.


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Biological evidence that we should eat a great deal of greens:

"researchers have now detected 3,751 magnesium-binding sites on human proteins, reflecting how important this mineral is to a great many biological processes."

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/05/10/magnesium-type-2-diabetes.aspx?e_cid=20140510Z1_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20140510Z1&et_cid=DM44347&et_rid=516458224

As a major component of chlorophyll, green leaves are one of the biggest sources. The other is seeds. (for the plant to sprout it's first leaves.)


Status: Clear after 30 years. Wow, I guess it's been 6 years, now.

[ Story: Severe Acne since I was 10. 10+ years of Dermatologists, Antibiotics, topicals and ACCUTANE did nothing. Discovered oranges triggered the worst of my cystic acne = about 70% improvement. Tried some nutrient supplements like B-complex with zinc and C, saw palmetto and a BHA like the aspirin mask = more improvement, a lot less oily. Then, Diet changes = Clear.

Regimen: Anti-inflammatory, nutrient dense, blood sugar stabilizing diet and supplements (for hormones, inflammation, aging, health). No soap or other cleanser except for hand washing! Water only or Oil cleanse. Aloe Vera mixed with niacinimide and a high linoleic acid oil for moisturizer and reduce pigmentation.

Diet effects acne in so many ways: hormone balance, inflammation, Insulin levels, digestion, allergies and intolerances, liver function, adrenal function, SHBG levels, sebum quality, cell function and turnover, nutrient deficiencies, body fat, etc. Basic advice: Eat, sleep, supplement and exercise like you are a diabetic. And eat real food!

For more information, see my Good Things for Acne thread *Moderator edit - Please refer to the board rules (see “Advertising/soliciting”, “Linking” and “Signatures”)*

When you eat stuff, Stuff Happens!


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Go for it! Seriously! After being vegan for 3 or so months (I've been vegan for over a year now), I never had acne again. This after taking Accutane, and then Spironolactone! I don't take any meds anymore; I just use retin-a for my pores, which look a million times better now. I think most arguments against veganism are plain silly. I don't have to eat all day, I eat as often and as fast as my family, and they eat meat and dairy and eggs. I eat 2000+ calories a day. My labs are perfect. My weight is perfect. It's super easy. The only thing I supplement is B12; from what I understand, humans of the past were able to get a substantial amount of B12 from the soil, but with current food production practices we need to supplement. All I do is add 2 tbsp. total throughout the day of nutritional yeast to my foods. I'm of the opinion that meat and animal products are downright just not good for us, particularly with how they are produced in our modern day. Plus, the vegan diet is cruelty free. Good luck, and if you have any questions feel free to pm me!

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What do you guys think of eating a vegan diet for acne and health in general? What do you think of the arguments vegan make about their diet being the ideal diet for humans? Also, I'm not talking about a junky vegan diet full of processed stuff. I'm talking about a vegan diet with lots of plan based foods.


Suffered from acne as a young adult that went into remission when put on hormonal birth control. Went off the HBC around age 22 and the acne returned with a vengeance (along with a host of other hormonal complaints). 100% clear with a modified diet that excludes dairy, sugars, grains, citrus and cured meats and emphasizes whole food-based nutrition from both plant and animal sources, most notably organ meats like liver and juiced whole vegetables. I have included a recipe for the most helpful juice I have come up with for skin complaints. I drink it every day, and it is invaluable for acne due to the large amounts of vitamin A (carotenoids) from both the carrots and beets. It also helps improve your coloring if you are very fair, giving you a pinkish, more radiant look (not orange. Don't worry!).

Magic Juice

In a juicer, combine:

5-6 carrots

1 medium beet

2-3 stalks of celery

1 small apple (Green is preferred. Omit if you are very sugar-sensitive)

1 small (1inch) piece of ginger (optional, but good for digestion)

This makes a variable amount of juice depending on the size of the vegetables you use.

Drink this throughout the morning until it's gone. Store in the fridge not longer than one day.

Having perfectly clear skin on my wedding day was worth all the headache and effort of figuring out how diet affects acne!

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Go for it! Seriously! After being vegan for 3 or so months (I've been vegan for over a year now), I never had acne again. smile.png This after taking Accutane, and then Spironolactone! I don't take any meds anymore; I just use retin-a for my pores, which look a million times better now. I think most arguments against veganism are plain silly. I don't have to eat all day, I eat as often and as fast as my family, and they eat meat and dairy and eggs. I eat 2000+ calories a day. My labs are perfect. My weight is perfect. It's super easy. The only thing I supplement is B12; from what I understand, humans of the past were able to get a substantial amount of B12 from the soil, but with current food production practices we need to supplement. All I do is add 2 tbsp. total throughout the day of nutritional yeast to my foods. I'm of the opinion that meat and animal products are downright just not good for us, particularly with how they are produced in our modern day. Plus, the vegan diet is cruelty free. smile.png Good luck, and if you have any questions feel free to pm me!

I'm glad to hear that veganism is working out so well for your acne! Would you mind sharing what you eat on a typical day? I also like the nutritional yeast idea!

I don't think I'm disciplined enough to try veganism long term, but if it's working for you then that's great plus it saves a few animals. I was vegetarian for over 10 years, then I added fish, and now I also eat meat to see if it would make a difference. Eating meat has actually made my anemia symptoms almost disappear, so I guess I may have had an iron deficiency from being vegetarian all those years. I wish I didn't have to eat meat because I don't like the thought of eating animals, but for me it seems to be a better diet than being vegetarian. What do you eat as part of a vegan diet? Some people avoid soy and tofu, which makes it hard to get protein.

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