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Posted 17 November 2014 - 02:42 PM

i think you should be fine but talk to your doctor again about what you eat and see what he has to say. i eat tons of veggies, potatoes, bananas, whole grains and never had any issues so think you will be ok but see what the doctor says. yeah it sucks with the breaking out on the spiro but for me i had no other option besides accutane and i didnt want to go that route so i had to just go with it. i made it 2 months before i asked for the keflex after trying a few other antibiotics that didnt work. the keflex cleared me up with 5 days though and then i stayed on that for a while then weaned off and have been fine ever since. most derms just give the antibiotics with the spiro to catch a lot of that acne you get until it kicks in. it could kick in sooner for you everybody is different. i would keep on the spiro and make sure you use some sort of BHA/AHA daily to keep those pores clear as well. 

 

Thanks that makes me feel better. When I asked my doc about it he answered with a very strict no, don't have to avoid anything. After reading these forums I just got paranoid:D

Yeah I don't want to go on accutane either and I'm 90% sure my acne would come back after it so there's really no point.

My doc also offered me antibiotics to help speed up the process but I didn't take it. It never improved my skin at all before and it made me throw up. not fun. He also gave me topical cream with tretinon+clindamycin.

How long did the initial break out last  for you and when did you notice things getting better? I guess I have a long way to go.. And I'm still only on 50mg which seems quite low of a dose. I weigh about 115lbs. Maybe I should try upping to 75 soon.

yeah i wouldnt worry about anything. sometimes its best not to read too much online. always go with what your doctor says when it comes to meds and things. they know more than any of us on this site do unless they are doctors themselves. i agree that is why i went the spiro route my derm said the accutane would shut the acne down while i was on it but that it would come back after i got off of it. i had great luck with doxy and mino but keflex was the only thing that 100% stopped all acne and stopped it fast and with no stomach irritation. did you eat a full meal when taking your antibiotics? that makes a difference too. i broke out really bad for first 2 months on spiro and i got on keflex and then never broke out again after that even after stopping the keflex but yeah i take 100mg everyday. i think its the most effective with that dose at least that is what my derm told me. she said all of her patients take between 100-200mg a day. i wouldnt worry about your weight from what my derm says that has no bearing on how much you can take. i weighed 111 pounds when i started and had i not gone on the keflex and cleared up she was going to have me take 150mg a day. 



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Posted 17 November 2014 - 03:57 PM

yeah i wouldnt worry about anything. sometimes its best not to read too much online. always go with what your doctor says when it comes to meds and things

 

Nothing against you, tracy521 but that is horrible advice. People need to look into things and educate themselves on what they are putting into their own bodies.

 

An example of this: I had bad stomach pains for a large chunk of my lifetime, especially after eating anything. I went to a doctor and they put me on a PPI (stops stomach acid) because he assumed I had ulcers. Fast forward weeks or time... the stomach pains were the worst I've ever had, literally on the floor unable to move. I developed incredibly bad acid reflux from it as well, which I've never had a problem with. Instead of going along with his stupid advice, I stopped the PPI's and researched for myself. Turns out I wasn't producing ENOUGH acid in my stomach to digest food properly. Taking betaine HCL after meals fixed the problem, and I didn't need to keep taking it after the pains went away, either.

 

Doctors (especially GPs) are not knowledgable in every area, and sometimes they know almost nothing about certain issues. Derms deal with a lot more related to skin disorders than just acne, too. They also work with big pharma and are compensated to prescribe.  If I would have listened to my derm without any doubts, I'd still be miserable on spiro. It wasn't until I started educating myself that I figured out what direction I needed to take.


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 07:37 AM

yeah i wouldnt worry about anything. sometimes its best not to read too much online. always go with what your doctor says when it comes to meds and things

 

Nothing against you, tracy521 but that is horrible advice. People need to look into things and educate themselves on what they are putting into their own bodies.

 

An example of this: I had bad stomach pains for a large chunk of my lifetime, especially after eating anything. I went to a doctor and they put me on a PPI (stops stomach acid) because he assumed I had ulcers. Fast forward weeks or time... the stomach pains were the worst I've ever had, literally on the floor unable to move. I developed incredibly bad acid reflux from it as well, which I've never had a problem with. Instead of going along with his stupid advice, I stopped the PPI's and researched for myself. Turns out I wasn't producing ENOUGH acid in my stomach to digest food properly. Taking betaine HCL after meals fixed the problem, and I didn't need to keep taking it after the pains went away, either.

 

Doctors (especially GPs) are not knowledgable in every area, and sometimes they know almost nothing a about certain issues. Derms deal with a lot more related to skin disorders than just acne, too. They also work with big pharma and are compensated to prescribe.  If I would have listened to my derm without any doubts, I'd still be miserable on spiro. It wasn't until I started educating myself that I figured out what direction I needed to take.

I get both of your points. I'm sorry you had to go trough that hearts. I too have some really bad experiences with wrong diagnosis and generally I don't trust GP's at all. For example when I asked my GP to get my hormones tested she said that they don't do that and it has nothing to do with my acne ad hair loss.Yeah right. (And I did get spiro from a different doc who is a dermatologist, just thought I should clear that up).

Anyway in this case the diagnosis is so in your face: acne. And I have a blood test to prove that it's hormonal now. And I do agree with tracy521 that my derm has a better understanding of how this drug works in the body than strangers in the internet. I'm not saying you have to agree with doctors on everything of course you have to listen to your body smile.png

 

Why where you miserable on spiro? I remember reading you got your acne under control with progesterone cream or was it someone else.. I don't think I could try that since my cycles are so irregular I wouldn't know when to apply it. And for some reason the whole thing sounds pretty scary to me biggrin.png


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Posted 18 November 2014 - 09:44 AM

what i am saying hearts is that many times people go online and get their medical advice from people that are not doctors and often times they read things that aren't true so in your case i get what you are saying but its not good to get all of your medical information from the internet. its good to be well informed but i feel many times when taking meds its best to talk to your doctor about any issues or questions you may have. 



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Posted 18 November 2014 - 11:00 AM

I get both of your points. I'm sorry you had to go trough that hearts. I too have some really bad experiences with wrong diagnosis and generally I don't trust GP's at all. For example when I asked my GP to get my hormones tested she said that they don't do that and it has nothing to do with my acne ad hair loss.Yeah right. (And I did get spiro from a different doc who is a dermatologist, just thought I should clear that up).

Anyway in this case the diagnosis is so in your face: acne. And I have a blood test to prove that it's hormonal now. And I do agree with tracy521 that my derm has a better understanding of how this drug works in the body than strangers in the internet. I'm not saying you have to agree with doctors on everything of course you have to listen to your body

 

Why where you miserable on spiro? I remember reading you got your acne under control with progesterone cream or was it someone else.. I don't think I could try that since my cycles are so irregular I wouldn't know when to apply it. And for some reason the whole thing sounds pretty scary to me

 

A lot of women handle spiro just fine but I am not one of them. I was on it for almost two years but at the year one mark I started getting TONS of bad side effects. Gained around 20lbs, hair started shedding like crazy, insomnia, increased anxiety, extreme constipation, to name a few. I know that it was spiro because there are others who have experienced the same thing and shortly after quitting spiro the side effects went away. 

 

My solution was natural progesterone cream and DIM (an anti-androgen and estrogen metabolizer). I still use NPC because it helps with other things, but I successfully weaned off of DIM earlier this year. I don't believe in having to take something indefinitely. That's fine, you don't have to do what I did — do what makes you feel comfortable, it's your own body! But just so that the info is out there... NPC can actually help regulate your cycle. I had amenorrhea before starting it but it made my cycle like clockwork. (:

 

what i am saying hearts is that many times people go online and get their medical advice from people that are not doctors and often times they read things that aren't true so in your case i get what you are saying but its not good to get all of your medical information from the internet. its good to be well informed but i feel many times when taking meds its best to talk to your doctor about any issues or questions you may have. 

 

Okay, I understand better what you mean now, thanks for clarifying! I just think the way you phrased it before was extreme the other way around — to blindly follow whatever the doctor says to do or thinks is best. I think there is a balance. I personally have had absolutely no success with doctors or derms of any kind, but that's just me. However, I understand that sometimes they can be helpful especially if they are specialists.


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Posted 23 November 2014 - 01:43 PM

A lot of women handle spiro just fine but I am not one of them. I was on it for almost two years but at the year one mark I started getting TONS of bad side effects. Gained around 20lbs, hair started shedding like crazy, insomnia, increased anxiety, extreme constipation, to name a few. I know that it was spiro because there are others who have experienced the same thing and shortly after quitting spiro the side effects went away. 

 

 

 

My solution was natural progesterone cream and DIM (an anti-androgen and estrogen metabolizer). I still use NPC because it helps with other things, but I successfully weaned off of DIM earlier this year. I don't believe in having to take something indefinitely. That's fine, you don't have to do what I did — do what makes you feel comfortable, it's your own body! But just so that the info is out there... NPC can actually help regulate your cycle. I had amenorrhea before starting it but it made my cycle like clockwork. (:

Ouch that doesn't sound nice. Honestly I don't think I'm handling it that well either. My heart rate got really fast and was pounding really hard. I asked my derm about it and he said it's because of the low blood pressure and that your body should adjust. Well it did and for a few weeks I felt fine but now it's back and for a few days I've also had quite a lot of muscle cramps on my legs, abs and arms. They don't hurt but I feel a very noticeable twitch. I haven't called my derm yet but I stopped taking spiro yesterday because it scares me. If I get such bad side effects only on 50mg I doubt that I could ever handle the 100mg. I'm very bummed about this but hope it's for the best in the long run :--/

 

So I'm back to square one.This is sooo devastating. I am now taking vitex to help with my irregular cycles but so far no change in that department. I also recently started taking inositol 1g but I sceptic about it because I don't have (not that I know off..) PCOS or insulin problems. I also take and have been taking for months a multivitamin with vitamin A, C ,D , B-complex , Zinc etc.

 

Hearts sorry if this is a dumb question but  what is NPC? Vitex did help regulate my period before but I guess it stopped working after a while.

I'm actually quite interested in trying progesterone cream. The symptoms that I have (other than acne EVERYWHERE and irregular periods) are headaches&migraines, night sweats/hot flashes, mood swings/depression but I think it's due to acne. I had quite bad hair loss before as well but it seems to have calmed down now (knocks on wood). This makes me think I could be low on either estrogen or progesterone and then I also have high DHEA like I've mentioned before. Do you think progesterone would help? If I decided to try it should I stop vitex or any of the other supplements? What brand did you use and how long till you noticed the results? When should I apply it if my cycles are super short (14-19 days lately..)? It used to be the other way around, I just can't keep up with these hormones! It's really annoying having a period every other week I think I'll end up anemic if this won't stop soon :D 

Sorry for all the questions I'm just so frustrated and desperate :'I !!



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Posted 25 November 2014 - 08:34 AM

So I'm back to square one.This is sooo devastating. I am now taking vitex to help with my irregular cycles but so far no change in that department. I also recently started taking inositol 1g but I sceptic about it because I don't have (not that I know off..) PCOS or insulin problems. I also take and have been taking for months a multivitamin with vitamin A, C ,D , B-complex , Zinc etc.

 

Hearts sorry if this is a dumb question but  what is NPC? Vitex did help regulate my period before but I guess it stopped working after a while.

I'm actually quite interested in trying progesterone cream. The symptoms that I have (other than acne EVERYWHERE and irregular periods) are headaches&migraines, night sweats/hot flashes, mood swings/depression but I think it's due to acne. I had quite bad hair loss before as well but it seems to have calmed down now (knocks on wood). This makes me think I could be low on either estrogen or progesterone and then I also have high DHEA like I've mentioned before. Do you think progesterone would help? If I decided to try it should I stop vitex or any of the other supplements? What brand did you use and how long till you noticed the results? When should I apply it if my cycles are super short (14-19 days lately..)? It used to be the other way around, I just can't keep up with these hormones! It's really annoying having a period every other week I think I'll end up anemic if this won't stop soon

Sorry for all the questions I'm just so frustrated and desperate :'I !!

 

Yeah, if you are having serious side effects after giving it enough time to adjust then do what you think is best for you... it's not worth risking your health for clear skin. There are literally hundreds of options out there to try if one thing (no matter how popular) doesn't work. Don't lose hope! (:

 

NPC is just abbreviation for natural progesterone cream. If you want to know more, send me a PM about it... there are a couple members here that seem against it for some reason so I stopped talking about it so much on this board. Again, what works for some doesn't work for others. I think it could help a lot with your irregular periods, hot flashes, migraines, and even leveling your mood. It may or may not help your skin... it's really hard to say. I used Emerita Progest daily (not certain times of the month) about 20-40mg (1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon.) Took 3-4 months (the first 2 weeks were like bad pms due to hormones receptors waking up but after that it was smooth sailing.) However, I had severe cystic acne all over so I had to take DIM to clear the rest (mostly on my back) up. Vitex helps with progesterone levels too (as well as blocking prolactin) — has it helped you at all? I'm not sure how it compares to the levels in actually using progesterone, however. Hope that helps!


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Posted 27 November 2014 - 11:15 AM

So I'm back to square one.This is sooo devastating. I am now taking vitex to help with my irregular cycles but so far no change in that department. I also recently started taking inositol 1g but I sceptic about it because I don't have (not that I know off..) PCOS or insulin problems. I also take and have been taking for months a multivitamin with vitamin A, C ,D , B-complex , Zinc etc.

 

Hearts sorry if this is a dumb question but  what is NPC? Vitex did help regulate my period before but I guess it stopped working after a while.

I'm actually quite interested in trying progesterone cream. The symptoms that I have (other than acne EVERYWHERE and irregular periods) are headaches&migraines, night sweats/hot flashes, mood swings/depression but I think it's due to acne. I had quite bad hair loss before as well but it seems to have calmed down now (knocks on wood). This makes me think I could be low on either estrogen or progesterone and then I also have high DHEA like I've mentioned before. Do you think progesterone would help? If I decided to try it should I stop vitex or any of the other supplements? What brand did you use and how long till you noticed the results? When should I apply it if my cycles are super short (14-19 days lately..)? It used to be the other way around, I just can't keep up with these hormones! It's really annoying having a period every other week I think I'll end up anemic if this won't stop soon

Sorry for all the questions I'm just so frustrated and desperate :'I !!

 

Yeah, if you are having serious side effects after giving it enough time to adjust then do what you think is best for you... it's not worth risking your health for clear skin. There are literally hundreds of options out there to try if one thing (no matter how popular) doesn't work. Don't lose hope! (:

 

NPC is just abbreviation for natural progesterone cream. If you want to know more, send me a PM about it... there are a couple members here that seem against it for some reason so I stopped talking about it so much on this board. Again, what works for some doesn't work for others. I think it could help a lot with your irregular periods, hot flashes, migraines, and even leveling your mood. It may or may not help your skin... it's really hard to say. I used Emerita Progest daily (not certain times of the month) about 20-40mg (1/4 - 1/2 teaspoon.) Took 3-4 months (the first 2 weeks were like bad pms due to hormones receptors waking up but after that it was smooth sailing.) However, I had severe cystic acne all over so I had to take DIM to clear the rest (mostly on my back) up. Vitex helps with progesterone levels too (as well as blocking prolactin) — has it helped you at all? I'm not sure how it compares to the levels in actually using progesterone, however. Hope that helps!

I know I just feel like I've already tried everything. I guess I just have to keep trying.

Oh okay. That sounds weird, I'll send you a pm about it. Thanks for taking the time to answer ! 

I believe vitex did help me before but it is hard to tell because I started it the same time I quit birth control. My skin was better (never completely clear though) and my cycles were quite regular. I also had hardly any menstrual cramps for the first time in my life! But around june-july I started getting cystic type acne again and cycles started to get shorter and shorter. I stopped taking it but recently started again so I think it's too soon to tell yet.




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