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Posted 18 March 2014 - 11:57 AM

Bubbles--

 

You made a post being negative, while simultaneously critiquing the purposed negativity of the board. When people responded, you criticized them and spread negativity. 

 

Was this a troll post? All in all, your username is Bubbles55.

 

Bubbles--

 

You made a post being negative, while simultaneously critiquing the purposed negativity of the board. When people responded, you criticized them and spread negativity. 

 

Was this a troll post? All in all, your username is Bubbles55.

 

Yeah.. yeah.. yeah - oh the irony. These people need to be stood up to though.

 

 

.. this is random and totally off topic, but has anyone ever told you, you look exactly like Lily Cole?



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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:45 PM

just go dump a bottle of bp all over your face im sure that will work, lmfao



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 01:50 PM

Bubbles, if you knew anything about genetics, you would know that many genes can be and are turned on and off by external factors.

 

Absolutely wrong.


 

>It all falls down into hormones.

 

Diet can affect hormones there's a few types of hormones that you can control, one being insulin

 

and so can stress

 

+ more 

 

those are the 2 easiest to control.

 

What's your diet like bubbles?

 

Acne is not a hormonal imbalance, people with acne are androgen senstivie by genetics. Most people with acne have hormones within the normal range. Also hormones do not "directly" cause acne. And hormonal imbalance is not brought on but inborn in most causes.

 

 

My diet has always been healthy. I know more about nutrition than most people could shake a stick at.



Guys, i totally agree with the gene relation matter. I have hormonal acne and nothing but nothing cured it, but the pill which is supposed to balance hormones. People with oily skin do get acne when the inner system is not stabilised and others have hirsutism. You raraly meet someone with BOTH acne and hirsutism. You either have one or the other. My mother had acne andan oily face. She is now 60 years old, and still may have a breakout every now and then. What i know from my mother and other friends is that acne related to hormonal imbalance at most cases dissapears after the first birth. If you have the tendancy for oily skin you will still have a pimple at times, but not acne. You girls have in mind that oily skin is more strengthened, has less wrinkles, and eventually you look younger. I am 34, and i am told i look 20 when not in make up. As for my mother, she looks like 45!!!! with no botox, lifting or smth like that. Enjoy your youth looks!

 

I have both severe acne and hirsutism and I have no hormonal imbalance. Both are caused by androgen sensitive hair follicules

 

Ive been around since 2005.  Sure sounds like you're the one bickering and trying to negate what works for people other than you.


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Evening: Cetaphil cleanser, apply differin, wait 1/2 hr, apply aczone as spot treatment.

 

Not overally exciting w/ the results

 

Also Has Seb Derm and been using Oxistat in beard area in the mornings.  Same, nothing special about the results


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 03:28 PM

Acne is totally a genetic disease. Coming from my old dermatologist (VERY smart man) said so himself. All acne is genetic.

none of my parents or grandparents had acne.


Edited by DanTheNewWorld, 19 March 2014 - 03:29 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 03:45 PM

in my view acne is mostly hormonal. 

girls started getting their periods at abnormal age. this didn't happen in my parents and grandparents' times.

but i don't blame testosterone or dht for acne, it's more complex.


Edited by DanTheNewWorld, 19 March 2014 - 04:01 PM.

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Posted 19 March 2014 - 06:57 PM

Acne is totally a genetic disease. Coming from my old dermatologist (VERY smart man) said so himself. All acne is genetic.

none of my parents or grandparents had acne.

 

That doesn't mean people in those times didn't have acne. My grandpa had severe acne.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 08:56 PM

in my view acne is mostly hormonal. 

girls started getting their periods at abnormal age. this didn't happen in my parents and grandparents' times.

but i don't blame testosterone or dht for acne, it's more complex.

 

Please go to the information section of acne.org, it lists that acne is indeed a genetic disease. Hormones just make the skin "oily" - they don't cause acne directly. What really makes acne happen is the way the pores clog from within (creating a plug).

 

The average age of menstruation has not changed that much over 100 years in concerns for "whites" (african american girls are a different story) it is still around 12-14 years old - menstruating before age twelve is rare among caucasions.



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:17 PM

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 


Edited by sdpinkas, 19 March 2014 - 09:20 PM.


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Posted 19 March 2014 - 09:37 PM

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:20 PM

 

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".

Are you a troll bubbles55? Why are you completely dismissing the research and experiences of many people on here which suggest that diet can affect acne?



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 10:59 PM

 

 

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".

Are you a troll bubbles55? Why are you completely dismissing the research and experiences of many people on here which suggest that diet can affect acne?

 

The overwhelming majority of dermatologists assert there is zero correlation between acne and diet, how on earth can you refute that?

 

The majority of people on this site are dumb teenagers that assume the bag of cheetos they had the day before gave them "cystic acne the next day".



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Posted 19 March 2014 - 11:47 PM

 

 

 

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".

Are you a troll bubbles55? Why are you completely dismissing the research and experiences of many people on here which suggest that diet can affect acne?

 

The overwhelming majority of dermatologists assert there is zero correlation between acne and diet, how on earth can you refute that?

 

The majority of people on this site are dumb teenagers that assume the bag of cheetos they had the day before gave them "cystic acne the next day".

although i distrust "the power of nature" and generally don't believe diet can heal some medical issue, i can predict that if i were to drink wine and eat cake and lots of bread/pasta i will get cysts after ~36hours. i've tested this over and over, especially around my birthdays/closed ones' birthdays.

BUT i've always separated whiteheads from cysts. the best diet i had removed almost all of red/inflamed acne, but did absolutely nothing for my whiteheads.

this is what i don't like about bp. it keeps inflamation down (killing some P. acnes bacteria) so there's no more visible acne, but acne is still there! (as microcomedones)

so yes, diet does not give you acne, it only makes it inflamed and more visible.


Edited by DanTheNewWorld, 19 March 2014 - 11:48 PM.

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Posted 20 March 2014 - 12:29 AM

in my view acne is mostly hormonal. 

girls started getting their periods at abnormal age. this didn't happen in my parents and grandparents' times.

but i don't blame testosterone or dht for acne, it's more complex.

 

Please go to the information section of acne.org, it lists that acne is indeed a genetic disease. Hormones just make the skin "oily" - they don't cause acne directly. What really makes acne happen is the way the pores clog from within (creating a plug).

 

The average age of menstruation has not changed that much over 100 years in concerns for "whites" (african american girls are a different story) it is still around 12-14 years old - menstruating before age twelve is rare among caucasions.

i read it and it doesn't say that pore cloging from within is genetic. you put that part in.

but it does say that "Acne is at least in part a hormonal disease".

 

ps. if you think in genetic terms you are pretty much dead meat in my view. i'm not referring necessarily to acne here, but in general. thinking from a genetic perspective will make you powerless, pointless, inhuman, injust, cruel, irresponsible as a parent, and the list goes on..


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 04:31 AM

The overwhelming majority of dermatologists assert there is zero correlation between acne and diet, how on earth can you refute that?

 

The majority of people on this site are dumb teenagers that assume the bag of cheetos they had the day before gave them "cystic acne the next day".

 

An increasing number of dermatologists are now acknowledging there is a connection because of the new findings from scientific research. The people conducting the research are not "dumb teenagers." Btw, you are the one saying this site has gotten more negative, but you're the one referring to the majority as "dumb teenagers." There are plenty of teenagers on here, but I do not think they are dumb. There are also plenty of adults that are also not dumb and are noticing that diet affects their acne.



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Posted 20 March 2014 - 05:12 AM

 

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".

Hahah... again another negative, and this time politically incorrect comment. 

 

I'm from Maryland, I've lived in SC for 9 years, I don't live in a trailer park, and I've never said the word "Ya'll" in my life. And by the way, Canadians make up more than 60% of our tourism here in Myrtle Beach during the off season (I have my BS in Resort Tourism Management, and Culinary).

 

As much as you'd like to think you know everything there is about acne, I assure you, you don't. And I, by no means, am saying that I do.



This post is ridiculous, bubbles55 is clearly looking for some attention, or recognition that he/she is more educated than all of us "dumb teenagers", considering that you've been here since '05. It's not in the least bit constructive, or helpful. Which is why I'm not going to reply to anything you say thereafter, because your negativity, and pompous way of thinking, is not worth my time. 


Edited by sdpinkas, 20 March 2014 - 05:20 AM.


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Posted 20 March 2014 - 11:21 AM

 

 

 

I have a biology degree and I'm about to finish my masters in genetics but yeah, I'm sure you know better than I do.

 

Where did you achieve that? Degrassi jr. high???

 

I bet you get most of your info on "genetics" from the batsh*t crazy poster Alternavista here on acne.org that claims that her lifelong cystic acne was entirely induced by oranges... **gasp**.

 

No, genetics can not be turned off and on at will like this woman and the quack doctors claim, we do not hold the "power" over our genes like we think.

 

I'm sorry but your above comment seemed pretty judgmental and negative to me. And yes, your diet absolutely affects your skin. Cutting out over refined carbs (white pastas, white breads) and dairy can and has affected some peoples skin as people have reactions to gluten and lactose. Your environment does affect your skin. Pollution, dirt and grime and the stress of your living environment absolutely triggers breakouts. It is not simply genetics. My mother and father both have had clear skin their childhood, but I do not. 

 

Also, If acne isn't a hormonal imbalance, than explain to me why I had perfectly clear skin when I was on birth control, and now, off the pill, I have deep painful cystic acne.

 

The truth is, no one knows the cause of acne, as it is different for everyone. Everything can (not does) affect your acne, its simply how your individual body deals with it. It's all subjective. 

 

Most acne patients have hormones within the normal range, just with INCREASED senstivity. Diet does not affect the skin in the least, neither does pollution dirt and grime.

 

Now take your southern butt back to the trailer park and be gone "YA'LL".

Hahah... again another negative, and this time politically incorrect comment. 

 

I'm from Maryland, I've lived in SC for 9 years, I don't live in a trailer park, and I've never said the word "Ya'll" in my life. And by the way, Canadians make up more than 60% of our tourism here in Myrtle Beach during the off season (I have my BS in Resort Tourism Management, and Culinary).

 

 

As much as you'd like to think you know everything there is about acne, I assure you, you don't. And I, by no means, am saying that I do.



This post is ridiculous, bubbles55 is clearly looking for some attention, or recognition that he/she is more educated than all of us "dumb teenagers", considering that you've been here since '05. It's not in the least bit constructive, or helpful. Which is why I'm not going to reply to anything you say thereafter, because your negativity, and pompous way of thinking, is not worth my time. 

 

I know more about acne than any person on the planet. I have studied it for years and know exactly what it is: a genetic disease. And every dermatologist, professor and endocrinologist I've ever talked to shares the same opinion - not to mention the owner and founder of this website Daniel Kern asserts that acne is genetic. You can't negate this with quack theories, it's been scientifically proven by twin studies that acne is indeed genetic and that 80% of our acne severity is uninfluenced by environment.

 

Here's just one of the studies:

 

http://www.nature.co...l/5603340a.html

 

You can not "turn off" an acne gene(s) with exceptional diet or healthy living as acne as scientifically proven is independent from lifestyle,  Acne is uninfluenced by envioronmental factors and is inborn. This is a genetic disease of the pilosebaceous unit first and foremost that can persist through out a persons entire life until the cusp of old age. The notion of "growing out of acne" by a certain age is incorrect as well

 

 

The future of acne treatment lies in gene therapy for this very reason.


Edited by bubbles55, 20 March 2014 - 11:45 AM.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 06:30 PM

This is darkheart on a new account everybody.

But, she does make a good point about how it can be hurtful when someone blames your diet from your acne. No, it's your genes to blame

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 06:54 PM

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.



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Posted 21 March 2014 - 07:37 PM

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.

 

I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.

 

**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.

 

I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.


Edited by bubbles55, 21 March 2014 - 07:44 PM.


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Posted 21 March 2014 - 08:44 PM

This is darkheart on a new account everybody.

But, she does make a good point about how it can be hurtful when someone blames your diet from your acne. No, it's your genes to blame

 

I agree that poor diet is definitely not the cause of acne. There are some people who eat horribly and have beautiful skin. That doesn't mean that diet changes can't help some people improve their acne though.



 

I've held this back for a while but I  have to say this...

 

Okay, I remember posting here back in 2005 when I was 15 years old and it seemed acne.org was such a positive place for people dealing with active acne looking for support. Back then people were less judgemental and everyone seemed to (relatively) get along.

 

Now this websites mentality has changed, there is a fanatical push on obsessively healthy diet here as a "cure" for acne and a resonating "blame the victim" mentality which results in constant bickering. There are people being chastised by other members for taking accutane and critiqued for their diet/lifestyle. There are members leaving because they can't take the negativity.

 

What happened here? Does anyone else who has been around this web community for a while recognize what went wrong here.

 

I came across acne.org right around 2007. Granted, I was an occasional visitor, but I do recall the taurine, B-complex supplement and liver detoxing fads.

 

I suspect that the alternative medicine and "natural is good" notions spread very quickly right after the acai berry and green tea fads during that time. That's when online advertising became more sophisticated and prevalent. Many of the "high-tech" and "revolutionary" advertising companies that are now ubiquitous either started 2007-2008 or experienced massive growth.

 

The "natural, DIY is best" mentality is rife in the other skin care forums too. It really doesn't help that you can get a lot of stuff on Amazon and eBay, particularly with dangerous chemical peels.

 

I definitely see an enormous change over the last nine years. Before there was much more logical posts in regards to the skin response to p.acnes and the proposal of a vaccine for inflammatory acne. Now the mentality has sadly switched over to "natural is best, government is evil!" ect. - yet we're no closer to finding a "cure" or more effective treatments for acne.

 

**edit** I do remember the green tea/herbal laxative colon cleansing fad around 2006 on these forums but it was never this aggressive. Now we have minimally educated people claiming that acne is self induced and that genes can be turned "on" and "off" like a light switch with good eating. They also (as you read earlier) are claiming that all cancer can be cured and prevented entirely with herbs, rick simpson oil and a rawfood diet.

 

I wholeheartedly wish there was more moderation on this website in regards to the hollistic forum (that seems to be spilling over into practically every section) so these people wouldn't have so much power.

 

I don't think anyone here has more power than others.






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