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#41 DudleyDoRight

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:39 AM

whattobehandsome30, from the looks of your picture you seem to have a lot to be thankful for. I am older so I had to suffer through decades when there were no advancements in scar treatments. Somehow I managed to land the most beautiful girl in town, and that was one hell of an ego boost, but I was still not happy with myself. As you can see by my signature line I underwent multiple treatments, and only Fraxel Repair worked. My scars were much worse than yours. Part of me wanted to hide from everything, but my personality would not allow that. You have to stay on the attack with scars. I am at the age where I will undergo a facelift to continue my journey, and then follow that up with my 6th Repair if need be. You must find the laser and then find the doctor, because a doctor will only suggest what he has on his shelf, and they will be very convincing as to why their laser de jour is better than Fraxel Re:pair. Read the postings of CollegeBoy and Inspired for insight. I believe TotalFX is the only laser comparable to Fraxel Re:pair. The very best thing I ever did was jump on Re:pair when it was first introduced, and I have had 5 treatments at max settings. A lot of people make the mistake of expecting dramatic results with one sitting, but it just doesn't work that way. You can waste years and a ton of money on treatments that just do not work or go directly to the Gold Standard Re:pair and get serious.

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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:55 PM

Hey whattobehandsome30,

I more than understand what you're going through, and am sorry you're stuggling with this. It's going to take time to clear, so try to be patient. It's absolutely important that you're using sunblock, even indoors. Reapply it often, and avoid the sun as much as possible. Eat healthy. Stay hydrated and keep your skin hydrated. I found vitamin C and zinc to be helpful.

Did the clinic warn you about this side-effect? If the doctor has done 7000 pixel sessions, then I am absolutely certain he has experienced hyperpigmentation with olive skin. Were you prescribed any kind of pre/post op creams? If not, I would be furious. Even if you were to start a "bleaching" topical today, it won't slow melanin production for weeks.

For my first laser procedure, my doctor only prescribed hydroquionne. However, his instructions were vague. As a result, I didn't take hydroquionne seriously prior to the procedure, and my hyperpigmentation from Deep FX was severe. It lasted months but it did eventually clear. I used a different doctor for my second & third procedures. He was adamant about pre/post op care. Despite this, I still suffered from hyperpigmentation but it cleared much faster and wasn't nearly as red.

If you do consider an aggressive treatment with Repair or Total FX, be prepared to go through this again. I don't think you can avoid it, but with proper pre/post care, you can minimize the effects and clear it faster. I think some doctors won't laser Asian skin because severe hyperpigmentation can be devestating for a patient and it is a common side-effect some doctors prefer to avoid.

Best of luck to you. I assure you, it will get better. I've been through this three times now, and my pigment has always returned to normal.


Edited by *Inspired*, 09 March 2014 - 09:58 PM.


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 12:25 AM

Are there any pics of your scarring bro? Is it like mild-moderate or moderate scarring? Keep your hopes up and stay positive.



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 09:02 AM

Hey whattobehandsome30,

I more than understand what you're going through, and am sorry you're stuggling with this. It's going to take time to clear, so try to be patient. It's absolutely important that you're using sunblock, even indoors. Reapply it often, and avoid the sun as much as possible. Eat healthy. Stay hydrated and keep your skin hydrated. I found vitamin C and zinc to be helpful.

Did the clinic warn you about this side-effect? If the doctor has done 7000 pixel sessions, then I am absolutely certain he has experienced hyperpigmentation with olive skin. Were you prescribed any kind of pre/post op creams? If not, I would be furious. Even if you were to start a "bleaching" topical today, it won't slow melanin production for weeks.

For my first laser procedure, my doctor only prescribed hydroquionne. However, his instructions were vague. As a result, I didn't take hydroquionne seriously prior to the procedure, and my hyperpigmentation from Deep FX was severe. It lasted months but it did eventually clear. I used a different doctor for my second & third procedures. He was adamant about pre/post op care. Despite this, I still suffered from hyperpigmentation but it cleared much faster and wasn't nearly as red.

If you do consider an aggressive treatment with Repair or Total FX, be prepared to go through this again. I don't think you can avoid it, but with proper pre/post care, you can minimize the effects and clear it faster. I think some doctors won't laser Asian skin because severe hyperpigmentation can be devestating for a patient and it is a common side-effect some doctors prefer to avoid.

Best of luck to you. I assure you, it will get better. I've been through this three times now, and my pigment has always returned to normal.

Thank you Inspired ... no i didn't experience any of this ... but i have pixel holes from it , and creases , liner scarring on my cheeks ... there's nothing i can really do as i signed a legal waver ... am looking into recell at the moment friend ... well they just said to use alot of vasaline ... and keep your face clean 



Are there any pics of your scarring bro? Is it like mild-moderate or moderate scarring? Keep your hopes up and stay positive.

No bro .. mine are kinda nasty ... :( .. but i do have a decent income to treat my skin 



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 11:26 AM

Hey whattobehandsome30,

I more than understand what you're going through, and am sorry you're stuggling with this. It's going to take time to clear, so try to be patient. It's absolutely important that you're using sunblock, even indoors. Reapply it often, and avoid the sun as much as possible. Eat healthy. Stay hydrated and keep your skin hydrated. I found vitamin C and zinc to be helpful.

Did the clinic warn you about this side-effect? If the doctor has done 7000 pixel sessions, then I am absolutely certain he has experienced hyperpigmentation with olive skin. Were you prescribed any kind of pre/post op creams? If not, I would be furious. Even if you were to start a "bleaching" topical today, it won't slow melanin production for weeks.

For my first laser procedure, my doctor only prescribed hydroquionne. However, his instructions were vague. As a result, I didn't take hydroquionne seriously prior to the procedure, and my hyperpigmentation from Deep FX was severe. It lasted months but it did eventually clear. I used a different doctor for my second & third procedures. He was adamant about pre/post op care. Despite this, I still suffered from hyperpigmentation but it cleared much faster and wasn't nearly as red.

If you do consider an aggressive treatment with Repair or Total FX, be prepared to go through this again. I don't think you can avoid it, but with proper pre/post care, you can minimize the effects and clear it faster. I think some doctors won't laser Asian skin because severe hyperpigmentation can be devestating for a patient and it is a common side-effect some doctors prefer to avoid.

Best of luck to you. I assure you, it will get better. I've been through this three times now, and my pigment has always returned to normal.

Thank you Inspired ... no i didn't experience any of this ... but i have pixel holes from it , and creases , liner scarring on my cheeks ... there's nothing i can really do as i signed a legal waver ... am looking into recell at the moment friend ... well they just said to use alot of vasaline ... and keep your face clean 



>Are there any pics of your scarring bro? Is it like mild-moderate or moderate scarring? Keep your hopes up and stay positive.

No bro .. mine are kinda nasty ... sad.png .. but i do have a decent income to treat my skin 

 

dude i contacted the clinic did you have a chat with the manager? what did they say the person on facebook said they cant discuss individual cases



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 03:14 AM

Sorry to hear about your experience! However, don't you think it's wrong to slate a clinic and nurse before speaking to a Manager or going back to get rechecked? That's the only way anyone can fix anything...



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 09:41 AM

Sorry to hear about your experience! However, don't you think it's wrong to slate a clinic and nurse before speaking to a Manager or going back to get rechecked? That's the only way anyone can fix anything...

Well ok Deeez10 ... you go get a laser treatment and feel you're in safe hands and get your face more scarred then it was originally ... it's not a great feeling ... so excuse me if am being irrational but this sort of thing is emotionally hard to swallow.



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Posted 11 March 2014 - 10:43 AM

post a pic so we can see what it looks like.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 02:54 AM

Dear whattobehandsome30,

 

Thank you for posting an in depth account of your experience with our treatment. There are a few things we'd like to highlight: 

 

All of our Pixel and other laser treatments are carried out by Registered Nurses or Doctors, only. They are fully trained, certified and qualified to carry out laser treatments. They are all insured and independently audited annually via a Laser Safety Training course. We are a very reputable clinic, with leading experts in their respective fields.

 

As clinic management, we audit all patient files and feedback on a monthly basis to ensure correct protocols are followed in terms of treatments for our patients. Furthermore, we have a complaint process for patients unhappy with treatment. A 2nd opinion visit with our Medical Director, Dr Puneet Gupta, was offered in this case. Dr Gupta is one of the most reputable and highly respected Doctors specialised in Pixel treatments - you can research him online. During this visit, a clear improvement was noted by both the Doctor and original treating Nurse.

 

We did invite the Patient to meet/speak with our Clinic Manager for a review appointment, but this was turned down. As a clinic, patient satisfaction is our number one priority and we will always work with a patient to ensure their treatment pathway is providing the right results. This may include further treatments or changing treatments during a course, but this is why patient feedback is important and why we ask patients to return for a review, without this we can’t work with the patient.



#50 whattobehandsome30

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:22 AM

I've had it .... i got Pixel Laser at Private Clinic in Harley street done all over my face and now am ruined ... pixel holes all over my face , new scarring , scarred pores on my cheeks  .. the only thing improved is my nose scarring ... i don't have a prayer , am crying all the time ... . am so down beforehand ... i lost my dad , my grandfather , grandmother ... i don't think it's worth it anymore ... am so depressed all the time .. the only thing keeping me from doing anything to myself is my mum ... i feel so dis hearted by it all ...

Really!!  At 13 I lost both my dad and grandfather within a month of each other and my grandfater also lived with us.  I had raging acne that left me scars that would give you nightmares, but never once did I talk crap about not going on.  There were no viable options for me when I was young - only dermabrasion, and that doesn't work.  Man up and quit crying.  You are a good looking guy so stop the crap.  Take a serious look around you.  Most guys out there don't look as good as you.  Drop the frigging Pixel and go straight to Fraxel Re:pair.  Learn how to play the game with women.  Nothing will prop up your ego more than a pretty girl on your arm.  Every day you see pretty girls with dirty drug slinging ugly ghetto pieces of crap.  Are they better than you, do they have more of a future, how long before they are in prison?

 

You can mess around with lasers of a lesser god or go to the GOLD standard.  I held my father in my arms as he died, and you are going to talk crap.  Try losing your father at 13 just when you needed him most.  My father was full of life and I am just like him.

For your information Dudley for what's worth i loss my father at 5 years old ... i was a baby ... i never got to know him at all ! .... and this was a time when me and my mother was living in a run down apartment with no one to support us at all .... as far as " man up " ... dude it's not as simple as to " man up " .... when things pile on and on you get depressed ... no one is superman ... we all need compassion in our time of crisis .



This is how my damage looks ... it's similar 528109-979118.jpg



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my damage isn't as severe as this poor soul .. but it's enough .... given the fact i already have scarring on my nose from dermastamp ( 2 mm ) ... on my lip from a shaving accident , and scarring from acne brought on by years of anxiety ( i suffer anxiety disorder ) again am hoping to ever loving god that this Dextrax Hydrogel works and gives complete skin regeneration because having scarring is a living hell ... i wouldn't wish it on my worse enemy.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:38 AM

from that pic i dont really see much of anything. it just looks like bigger pores and i only wish my skin looked this good and i dont even think i have close to severe scarring. so if your skin looks better than this then you probably look great and dont have a thing to worry about.



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 11:57 AM

Oh no this and pitted acne scarring as well ... so this is double the suffering ... :( ... sigh 



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:12 PM

@Zavvi Bro my mother did so ... the manager said it's early days ... and she also said to have another Pixel laser treatment done by Dr Gupta .... my mum thinks my skin has improved .... i don't know what she sees bless her but it's worse in my opinion .... i have a scar on the middle of my forehead that has improved alot ... but what good's that if the rest of your face is effected negatively !! thank you for that man .



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 03:43 PM

Whattobehandsome30, while I completely sympathize with your situation, and I understand everything you are going through personally, that picture you posted doesn't show much damage.  If it really is better than that, I think you do not have major skin issues.  Coupled with your statement that you have anxiety issues, I am led to believe that is what is magnifying your perceived skin issues.  For your mental health, maybe you should look into counseling or something.  



This is what some other forum members are currently struggling with.....  

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#55 whattobehandsome30

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Posted 12 March 2014 - 04:06 PM

Whattobehandsome30, while I completely sympathize with your situation, and I understand everything you are going through personally, that picture you posted doesn't show much damage.  If it really is better than that, I think you do not have major skin issues.  Coupled with your statement that you have anxiety issues, I am led to believe that is what is magnifying your perceived skin issues.  For your mental health, maybe you should look into counseling or something.  



This is what some other forum members are currently struggling with.....  

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Terrible ... my heart goes out to him xxx



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Posted 12 March 2014 - 04:37 PM

whattobehandsome30, you are way ahead of a lot of people on this forum. I don't pull a lot of punches, so when I see a good looking guy talking about not being able to go on I think WTF. Change the way you think and you will change the way you feel.

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Posted 13 March 2014 - 04:46 AM

whattobehandsome30, you are way ahead of a lot of people on this forum. I don't pull a lot of punches, so when I see a good looking guy talking about not being able to go on I think WTF. Change the way you think and you will change the way you feel.

Honestly Dudley bro ... this pic is 3 years old .... and this pic doesn't show the damage much ... but i appreciate it my friend ... i hope we can all get the skin we want ...



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:30 AM

whattobehandsome30, you are way ahead of a lot of people on this forum. I don't pull a lot of punches, so when I see a good looking guy talking about not being able to go on I think WTF. Change the way you think and you will change the way you feel.

Honestly Dudley bro ... this pic is 3 years old .... and this pic doesn't show the damage much ... but i appreciate it my friend ... i hope we can all get the skin we want ...

You will get there, just be aggressive.  Never, never give up on yourself.  I had a lot to be depressed about, and sometimes I would get way down, but I kept pulling myself back up.  This is the only life you will get.  I am way older than you, but I am still working on improving myself, and you know what, it works.  Plastic surgery is the next step for me because of my age.



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Posted 13 March 2014 - 05:02 PM

go to a decent dr like dr chu, harley street is just a name, does not mean the physicians are any good!



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Posted 16 March 2014 - 12:43 AM

from that pic i dont really see much of anything. it just looks like bigger pores and i only wish my skin looked this good and i dont even think i have close to severe scarring. so if your skin looks better than this then you probably look great and dont have a thing to worry about.

my thoughts exactly..






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