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#1 VinnyB

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Posted 25 January 2014 - 08:30 PM

For the past few years (20 yo now) I have had little white/yellow small flakes on my skin, generally on the sides of my nose, my eyebrows sometimes, my cheeks, my chin, and "mustache area". None of these areas are really red, just a little, and there is no pain at all from these areas. Sometimes I feel like the skin is dry when I open my mouth wide.

I have never gotten any comments on it and my parents say they didn't even know about the flakes being there until I told them to look close. My diet is very good (rarely have sweets and no artificial sugar, stick to mainly protein and good fats with a bit of carbs a couple of days a week). I only drink water and the occasional coffee once or twice a month. I workout 3x a week with heavy (for me) weights and do some cardio. I'm not fat or anything like that and have no other conditions. I don't take any meds and haven't for a while. I only take a multivitamin, some omega 3, and some echinacea and herbal immune boosters (arcozon).

If I look at the mirror from a normal distance I don't really see any flakes. It's not until I move in close that I can see them. However, with the light on I can definitely see them and they are really noticeable. I just try to use water to wash it out but it makes it worse sometimes. I don't use any face wash products and I have been trying to not use shampoo and my hair looks great and not oily. So basically only water touches my face.

It's been only a month since not using shampoo and there isn't any improvement. I'm not sure if I have to wait longer to see if it was the shampoo or not.

The condition is the same throughout all the seasons, as well.

So, basically, if I do have seb d it's pretty mild. I'm just wondering if anyone can give me any tips to get rid of these flakes.

Sorry for the long post.



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Posted 26 January 2014 - 07:42 AM

Hey vinnie seems like you do have seb derm as thats what i have now. You need to read up on the posts by user Moonset777 who seems to know alot and has cured his lifelong condition. Basically you need to go on the candida diet which cuts out all sugars even fruit sugars as well as grains and rice. You must google the candida diet and spend some time learning it. The strict candida diet calls for no carrots,sweetcorns and peas initially. You also need to take a good course of anti fungals as well as a Probiotic supplement that has at least 50 billion CFU,but the diet is crucial. The yeast lives off sugar and the job is to starve it through all ways.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:35 PM

Don't just hop right on the candida diet without definitely being diagnosed with seborrheic dermatitus because the candida diet fucking sucks, especially for someone who lifts weights.  It is expensive and strict.  Candida is usually caused by taking loads of antibiotics and having your good bacteria and gut destroyed.  Have you ever taken antibiotics?  How long has your diet been like you said above?  

 

The areas you have mentioned are usually related to seb derm but don't go on the candida diet unless you have to.  Try using an anti-fungal in those areas and see if that helps first.  



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Posted 27 January 2014 - 07:36 PM

 I took antibiotics when I was a kid for strep throat usually but that hasn't been since maybe middle school and I'm currently a sophomore in college. I did take a Z-Pak (I think it's 9 pills) for a persistent cough freshman year but that was it. Basically, I don't have any frequent contact with medication.

 

I just started this diet a couple of weeks ago. It's new. Before I was just going on a bulk for a couple of months and just eating anything, but now I think I may stick to this diet. I'll see how the results are in the gym/my physique/body. So far so good though. Before I started working out and going to the gym (started in November), I didn't really have any restrictions per say, but I did eat really healthy (no fast food, some desserts but not really often, etc).

 

What sort of antifungals would you recommend? Do you know if putting vaseline on the affected areas helps since that is all I have currently being oncampus and living in a dorm?


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 12:16 PM

I would recommend anything with Zinc Pyrithione in it (the active ingredient in Head & Shoulders shampoo).  You can find creams/soaps specifically aimed towards Seb Derm on amazon or ebay.  Lots of people use the shampoo but I feel like the other ongredients in it are very harmful.

 

I don't think so a small course of antibiotics has caused your Seb Derm so try topicals first as I find they can usually maintain a mild condition.  There are also many other kinds of anti-fungals out there that can be purchased in grocery stores.  Tea tree oil, Sudocrem and Lotrimin Ultra just to name a few.  You can always look up anti-fungals on google.

 

Take a probiotic as well, preferably a reputable one but since you are in college (like me) money can be tight.  Try and get a good one with lots of live bacteria.  

 

Since you live in a dorm I am going to assume that you are on the college meal plan?  This should make it easy for you to maintain a healthier diet because everything is prepared for you.  Stick to the veggies.  If you eat pizza or something try to eat only like 1 slice and then veggies.



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Posted 28 January 2014 - 08:33 PM

Yeah I am on a meal plan. It can be challenging since there is a lot of food with carbs that I try to avoid for the most part, but for the most part it's ok since there are still a lot of healthy options.

 

Thanks for the anti fungal advice, I will take a look into those. Which probiotic do you recommend?

 

I tried putting vaseline on today and it did seem to help so I will continue with that and see how it goes


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Posted 28 January 2014 - 10:19 PM

I don't know much about probiotic brands just look for one with a lot of live bacteria.  It usually says it on the bottle.  I just take a basic one from walmart because it was cheap but when it runs out I am going to invest in a better one.

 

Also I forgot to mention that RAW HONEY works great for Seb Derm by leaving it on the affected areas overnight as a mask.  I have done this before and red areas have disappeared by the next day when I washed it off.  You can get it from any health food store.  Must be RAW.  

 

I heard vaseline works ok.

 

You can still eat carbs just try and limit your carb consumption.  I usually try to stay under 20g per day which is tough so I end up with 50-100g for most days.  The easiest way to do this is when you think about grabbing a snack (chips, sandwich, bagel or anything made from bread and grains) resort to fruit instead.  Try different fruits as I didn't like them at first but I gradually started eating more and more.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 01:45 PM

I agree that it sounds like seborrheic dermatitis. If you don't have success with these treatments, a lot of people have seen improvement by mixing together clotrimazole and hydrocortisone. Then once it's better, slowly cut out the hydrocortisone, so you're just using the clotrimazole occasionally.



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Posted 29 January 2014 - 11:03 PM

Thanks everyone for the advice. The vaseline seems to continue working, so I guess I'll stick with that for now. The only thing is its pretty hard to wash out when I wake up but it's a small price to pay if it helps.


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Posted 30 January 2014 - 08:57 PM

If it works, it works.  Keep using it unless you notice anything bad.  



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Posted 25 February 2014 - 12:35 PM

Sorry for reviving this from the grave but I just wanted to update you all on what I found out. I stopped using any shampoo for the past month or so and not only has my hair never been better, but my seb derm has almost completely gone away. There are still some remnants but nothing like before. I believe what was happening was that when I went to sleep, my pillow would fill up with the oil secreted from my hair after thoroughly shampooing it, and since I like to sleep on my side, my entire face would get put on the oil at night. This oil would feed the seb derm and when I woke up I would have all the flakes on my skin. Now, I just rinse thoroughly with water in the shower and my pillow doesn't get all greasy.

Just wanted to share this in case someone else can benefit from this.



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Posted 28 February 2014 - 05:12 PM

Did you ever have problems with dandruff?  I tried not using any shampoo before but I found that my dandruff was out of control, which I am assuming is related to Seb Derm, so I have always resorted back to head and shoulders. I have read before that the scalp and face are intertwined when it comes to Seb Derm.  Clear one area and the other seems to react the same way.



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Posted 18 June 2014 - 11:22 AM

If it comes back try joesoef sulfur soap and gold bond lotion. You can also tone with a tea tree mixture. Lush has a good line.

Now for the bad news. This condition is a direct result of a symptom in your body. My doctor said if your body is under stress this can happen. That's why 85 HIV positive have this condition. It's also a strong connection to gut/GI issues. Culturelle probiotics are a good start. APple cider vinegar are good for viruses of all kinds so that's another start. My strong suggestion is go to the doctors and get complete blood work etc to make sure nothing major is happening to your immune system. I had major acid reflux issues. Once I fixed it i iI was better. My friend had due to a virus. Once he fixed his immune system he was better.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 04:33 PM

Hi Vinny, does your skin condition kind of looks like this?

 

Here is my acne.org link: http://www.acne.org/...cture-included/

 

Let me know, thanks.




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